Kratos vs Dante

Started by Gumachi50 pages
Originally posted by k1Lla441
Ya know that arguement that you and wil7 are doing in private messages? about dante and sephiroth? i would like you to take it to a forum, so i can help you out, as i think dante would beat sephiroth.

Never played AC. But Dante might beat him.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Mkay. I think he survived in a cutscene. Kratos doesn't have to much to effect Dante btw. But thanks.

Its more the other way round, Dante has nothing to resist Kratos' powers

Originally posted by Gumachi
Never played AC. But Dante might beat him.
AC's not a videogame lol nubs.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its more the other way round, Dante has nothing to resist Kratos' powers

He doesn't have to much to effect him(if not anything at ALL i'm shure). I doubt The Blade could kill him because only demonic weapons can slay Dante(that's just my saying I doubt it could--who knows?).

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
AC's not a videogame lol nubs.

Oh, I already figured that out lol.

BT, most of the time you really don't make any sence. Like Mundus vs Ares you say that Ares could step on Mundus. But when it's Pyron vs Kain(and Pyron stepping on Kain)it's a different story.

If Dante dropped Argosax he can do the same to Kratos(and don't say he wouldn't)because Kratos would be distracted with the sword. And Kratos literally let the Barbarian lift his hammer and let him nearly kill him(and that had to take a while probably).

Just like when I use gameplay you whine. But when you do it, it's a whole different story(just like Eurayle's Rage--which doesn't have anything to do with the story) Nor Typhon's bow(maybe his other magic?).

Krato's stoning people has nonething to do with the storyline.

Originally posted by Gumachi
BT, most of the time you really don't make any sence. Like Mundus vs Ares you say that Ares could step on Mundus. But when it's Pyron vs Kain(and Pyron stepping on Kain)it's a different story.

If Dante dropped Argosax he can do the same to Kratos(and don't say he wouldn't)because Kratos would be distracted with the sword. And Kratos literally let the Barbarian lift his hammer and let him nearly kill him(and that had to take a while probably).

Kain can teleport, turn intangible and cannot die, Mundus is both featless and can be banished by pistols that cannot damage human pool balls...

nah, Argosax has barely any abilities, hes pathetic

Originally posted by Gumachi
Just like when I use gameplay you whine. But when you do it, it's a whole different story(just like Eurayle's Rage--which doesn't have anything to do with the story) Nor Typhon's bow(maybe his other magic?).

Krato's stoning people has nonething to do with the storyline.

yes they are, go and play GOW 2, theyre all part of the story and so are the aspects of them I use

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kain can teleport, turn intangible and cannot die, Mundus is both featless and can be banished by pistols that cannot damage human pool balls...

nah, Argosax has barely any abilities, hes pathetic

yes they are, go and play GOW 2, theyre all part of the story and so are the aspects of them I use

Show me proof he can't die. He was banished with pistols? No they have magic power and Jackpot would destroy anyone(no bullet. That is still no reason). Every person can die one way or another. Don't sit up here and tell me he can't fanboy.

NO. Eurayle's Rage is not part of the storyline. They just mention Medusa. Nonething more.

hasn't kratos slain gods?

Originally posted by Gumachi
Show me proof he can't die. He was banished with pistols? No they have magic power and Jackpot would destroy anyone(no bullet. That is still no reason). Every person can die one way or another. Don't sit up here and tell me he can't fanboy.

NO. Eurayle's Rage is not part of the storyline. They just mention Medusa. Nonething more.

lol you calling me a fanboy is funny, especially when you sit by Dante and say he wins even after all your points are smashed, you even said Dante wins without an argument behind it. Jackpot would destroy anyone? lol, it has no feats, all its done is banished one of the weakest last bosses in populour fiction.

He cant die, even looked at logically he cant die, hes already technically had both his HEART and his SOUL ripped out....nothing in DMC has shown that kind of endurance.

It is, youve not played the game, and Medusa is nothing to do with GOW2.

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol you calling me a fanboy is funny, especially when you sit by Dante and say he wins even after all your points are smashed, you even said Dante wins without an argument behind it. Jackpot would destroy anyone? lol, it has no feats, all its done is banished one of the weakest last bosses in populour fiction.

He cant die, even looked at logically he cant die, hes already technically had both his [b]HEART and his SOUL ripped out....nothing in DMC has shown that kind of endurance.

It is, youve not played the game, and Medusa is nothing to do with GOW2. [/B]

You haven't smashed anything. Jackpot Seal(And Sparda Cannon would too) would put Kain in Hell. Your the fanboy who thinks Kain can defeat anyone. I can actually ADMIT he can be killed. Unlike you who thinks he can beat anyone just by using the same "he can rip out their soul" crap. Weak? No. Mundus creates people like Kain.

Show me proof. A Titan had his soul ripped out he haven't died. Stop trying to call everything "weak" if I was to say Kain was weak then your gonna get mad and cry.

Show me proof it's part of the storyline.

Kain cannot turn intangeable nor has he ever ripped out anyones soul 😐

Your talking to me?

Originally posted by Gumachi
You haven't smashed anything. Jackpot Seal(And Sparda Cannon would too) would put Kain in Hell. Your the fanboy who thinks Kain can defeat anyone. I can actually ADMIT he can be killed. Unlike you who thinks he can beat anyone just by using the same "he can rip out their soul" crap. Weak? No. Mundus creates people like Kain.

Show me proof. A Titan had his soul ripped out he haven't died. Stop trying to call everything "weak" if I was to say Kain was weak then your gonna get mad and cry.

Show me proof it's part of the storyline.

None of them would hit him, Jackpot is slow, Sprda cannon hasnt defeated anything. Mundus has created nothing like Kain......

Why should I show you proof and treat you like a real debator when you do not act like one? you are not worthy of me trying, youll simply say some BS like "dante will jump high and escape!". If you called Kain weak it wouldnt make a diffrence to any debate.....

Titans have then shown to be able to excist without their souls, few other things have. Also how did do you know he did not die? he was out of action after Hades had done the attack on him, for all you know Hades returned the soul later on.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kain cannot turn intangeable nor has he ever ripped out anyones soul 😐

In the story you mean, Sephiroth has never actually used any of his spells you claim he has in canon either......

And mist form is pretty much instangeable....

Originally posted by Burning thought
None of them would hit him, Jackpot is slow, Sprda cannon hasnt defeated anything. Mundus has created nothing like Kain......

Why should I show you proof and treat you like a real debator when you do not act like one? you are not worthy of me trying, youll simply say some BS like "dante will jump high and escape!". If you called Kain weak it wouldnt make a diffrence to any debate.....

Titans have then shown to be able to excist without their souls, few other things have.

In the story you mean, Sephiroth has never actually used any of his spells you claim he has in canon either......

And mist form is pretty much instangeable....

I said HE CAN create people like Kain. Jackpot slow? No. You haven't played DMC2 so i'd expect you to say what Sparda Cannon hasn't did.

Exactly another lie your making up but yet you beg me for proof. Another hyprocrite. Another day. You simply use the "soul ripping" for every Kain argument. I can throw alot of names Kain wouldn't defeat.

Originally posted by Gumachi
I said HE CAN create people like Kain. Jackpot slow? No. You haven't played DMC2 so i'd expect you to say what Sparda Cannon hasn't did.

Exactly another lie your making up but yet you beg me for proof. Another hyprocrite. Another day. You simply use the "soul ripping" for every Kain argument. I can throw alot of names Kain wouldn't defeat.

Thats what shows you are a weak debator and not worth debating with by anybody, thus why TGE was wondering why I bother with you, you have not showed anything and there is no reasoning behind saying Mundus can create people like Kain. Ive played DMC2, if your saying Sparda cannon is the move only seen in gameplay after you transform into the sparda form then you should see why its obvious it hasnt done anything....

you can call it what you like, ive given proof in almost every debate in this forum, I dont have to prove myself to anybody unworthy, especially since your new and have shown you like ti invent things and then not give reason or proof yourself.

Soul ripping is a fine ability to destroy almost and any character, a being usually dies without its soul and only in very rare cases can they excist without it.

I can throw a long list as well, but go on...try...name some?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats what shows you are a weak debator and not worth debating with by anybody, thus why TGE was wondering why I bother with you, you have not showed anything and there is no reasoning behind saying Mundus can create people like Kain. Ive played DMC2, if your saying Sparda cannon is the move [b]only seen in gameplay after you transform into the sparda form then you should see why its obvious it hasnt done anything....

you can call it what you like, ive given proof in almost every debate in this forum, I dont have to prove myself to anybody unworthy, especially since your new and have shown you like ti invent things and then not give reason or proof yourself.

Soul ripping is a fine ability to destroy almost and any character, a being usually dies without its soul and only in very rare cases can they excist without it.

I can throw a long list as well, but go on...try...name some? [/B]

So? You whining about Kain ripping souls is gameplay.

Almost every debate? I've seen some of your post and some of them you haven't had a bit of proof. I actually can have proof. Proves I win your not even man enough to show proof because your lying and don't have any.

Soul ripping is only done in gameplay.

You don't have proof for anything your saying. Your just throwing anything out there. I have proof for most of the things I say.

Originally posted by Burning thought
In the story you mean, Sephiroth has never actually used any of his spells you claim he has in canon either......

And mist form is pretty much instangeable.... [/B]


Yes in the entire LOK story plot Kain has never ripped out anyones soul, fact.

What spell did I claim Sephiroth has never used?

Intangeable is being able to phase through solid objects, Kain cannot do that, so he cannot go intangeable.

Originally posted by Gumachi
So? You whining about Kain ripping souls is gameplay.

Almost every debate? I've seen some of your post and some of them you haven't had a bit of proof. I actually can have proof. Proves I win your not even man enough to show proof because your lying and don't have any.

Soul ripping is only done in gameplay.

explain, I know its not gameplay but explain, I think now your just saying gameplay because ime tripping you up on it, typical thing a child in a similiar situation would do.

Its also a factual ability Kain possesses, as the storyline text says, so although it does only happen in gameplay, that is irrelvent, it also has in-universe storyline backing up kains powers and in the storyline he has indeed manipulated souls, the sword he uses is also known in the story to rip souls, but since you know nothing of LOK series, you wouldnt know this 🙂

go and learn to debate then try and do it, dont bring up childish nonsense such as saying something is gameplay and not backing it up. Kains soul powers are specificly outlined and KAIN HIMSELF says so by each of his own spells:

http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/spells.php

"'Tis a spell worthy of the Necromancer himself. This allows me to dissect a creature's soul from its vessel of flesh. For these poor wretches, only oblivion awaits."

and his sword:

http://www.dark-chronicle.co.uk/bo1/weapons.php

"Time fades even legend, and the origin of the Soul Reaver has been lost long ago. But its purpose remains - to feed on the souls of any creature it strikes. Kindred, this blade and I."

now go away, find some real evidence for your Sparda cannon nonsense then return, or simply concede and own up that you goofed 😄

Originally posted by Terryc250
Yes in the entire LOK story plot Kain has never ripped out anyones soul, fact.

What spell did I claim Sephiroth has never used?

Intangeable is being able to phase through solid objects, Kain cannot do that, so he cannot go intangeable.

You constantly go on about how he gains tonnes of spells from the lifestream, when in fact he rarely uses ANY spels at all in canon storyline.

Instagability is being incorporal which means non material, mist form for all intents and purposes for this thread...i.e being stepped on by a physical being such as a Titan, is pretty much incorporal. But thats not the point, the fact is, mist form would escape a titan trying to crush him.