Kratos vs Dante

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its what the head does in gameplay so? its not a gameplay mechanic like you said it was however...so no, your wrong again...your obviously confused about the rules, only Gameplay mechanics are not allowed. If no gamplay in general was allowed then half the characters in games VS would lose their abilities, especially Dante.

Yeah weak thin weapons not hardly near as powerful as the Blade of Olympus, if you like titles swallow up your own crap and feed through your tiny mind the fact that the blade is empowered by [b]several Gods!!...

We know he regerated because after being impaled about 6 times he stands and you can see has ZERO wounds....theres not a single hole on him

so? the sparda sword itself is tiny....

Because those Gods are far stronger than Dante who is weak. Dante has been hit by nothing of the sort, hes been put out of action by being impaled by a kid with his OWN sword....

Gaia said so because she didnt know Kratos was Zeus' son moron....which ive already shown you.. And whats toughness to do with anything? nothing....like all titles, Demi-god and God are simply words put in front of beings, their feats make them powerful, either way, Kratos is a demi-god by default of being Zeus' son.

If you knew anything about me I need zero backup against anyone or everyone on this forum, which can be said about everyone when referring to you....unless they need backup because their laughing too damn much to continue a debate.

Royalguards best feat is? or are you going by the gameplay mechanic of what it does to weak @ss enemies in DMC?

Only powerful in Kratos' unvierse? wtf shit you talking about now? okie then, Saviours beams and Mundus' full power and Vergils Yamato would never even scratch Kratos in his weakest form because their only powerful in the DMC universe! see what I did thar! yes I proved how stupid you are, thats what I did. The sword has far more damaging feats than Dante has been shown to survive, he would be slashed into bits with one strike and thats if hes in his Sparda mode.

Youve not stated a single fact, youve lied on numerous occasions and outright said Dante would win without giving evidence or proof and furthermore you continue to state Dante can survive the Blade of Olympus when hes not survived anything close ot its power.

No theres Durability which is how much damage your body can actually take, if a guys body has a bullet bounce off him, its durable.

Then theres Endurance which is how much your body can be stabbed and slashed by before you return to full health or can survive over a period. This is Dantes kind, where he gets stabbed yet can get up quickly but to be fair, he has regeneration os its less of a feat for him.

Their gameplay mechanics, objects the player can buy/sell, their never seen in cinematics or spoken off in the game.

Kratos wont let Dante powerup his slow @ss gun....

You simply have to say you "concede this debate" and everyone will stop. [/B]

But is it used OUTSIDE gameplay.

Several Gods? It's just empowered by Zeus & Kratos's powers[The Blade was created from lighting--Lighting God--Zeus was Lighting God then--and Krato's Power. As for the wound that was made to Kratos

YouTube video it's not THAT big as your trying to make it seem like it is.

So? When you impale Thesus there isn't a hole inside him. Why couldn't he regenerate from The Blade?

Meaning? The Blades of Athena/Chaos are tiny and Zeus shed tons of blood from that.

You know he let him do that? Better than being owned by a Barbarian King. The Gods are nonething what kind of "God" gets their ass kicked by mortals?

Gaia is Mother-Earth and the Narrator stop trying to dodge it. Kratos=Mortal. Ares even called Kratos a Mortal. http://www.us.playstation.com/PS2/Games/God_of_War_II And just because he's the "Son of Zeus" doesn't mean he's tough--Look at Perseus. Kratos just has strength of a God but he's still a mortal. Kratos was called a Mortal twice from Gaia. If he isn't God Kratos what is he Mortal Kratos.

Then why is he helping you? Because I don't see anyone else joining in.

I never said The Savior attacks would hurt him. So don't try to twist my words against me. YOUR the one who's acting as if The Blade can kill anything in any universe. Like I said that's IF The Blade can kill him at all. I don't care who The Blade was created by. Like I said a Mortal can survive it Dante can as well. See your saying it could hurt his Sparda's form stop trying to act as if it can hurt anything[even though it damn shure wouldn't]. It's just a sword forged from lighting[or Heavens and Earth] and added power from Kratos.

Lie.

Dreadnought armor--Considering the fact that Eurayle's Rage is gameplay. Or if that doesn't work he can use a Cerberus Magic Barrier--Protecting him from ALL ATTACKS[or use Nevan's Magic Barrier]. Or unleash a Giant laser cannon onto him.
So aparently Dante is durable[atleast when he TKed the beam bounced off him].

He won't let him power it up? If it worked on Argosax it will do the same to Kratos. He won't even see him and by the time he looks straight he's toast. And he literally was about to LET the Barbarian lift up his hammer and kill him.[whatever else was going on it took a while] Slow? You call guns that has ability too shot at minigun speeds[which would kill Kratos]slow? Or he could teleport behind Kratos. And chop his head off[and no his reflexes wouldn't be fast enough]or if he could chop his legs off. Or summon 1000s of electric bloodsucking, bloodthristy bats.

I'll only agree to stop if you do.

Lucifer

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer What Lucifer would do to Kratos[And kill him].

RoyalGuard

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Royalguard_Style [RoyalRelease=Ownage to Kratos--of his own/The Blade's own power]

Pandora's Box

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Pandora

Yamato

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Yamato
Judgement Cut=Ownage to Kratos[He could slash Kratos from afar away--blinding speed--even you have to admit Kratos is gonna get slashed like hell]

Dark Slayer Style

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Slayer_Style

Originally posted by Gumachi
Yeah he can but Dante has defeated Mundus(A God), Satan, Michael Archangel, Odin and more. [/B]

Mundus is not a God, but a higher demon who rules over lesser demons. And pray tell, how in the world could Dante beat an Archangel like Michael or any archangel for that matter? Is Sparda stronger than the forces of heaven, or did Dante used some other power source to beat an archangel? I think the DMV manga/anime is just ridiculous if this is true.

Originally posted by Gumachi
No are you.

It's not really that big and I looked at a vid on youtube and the wound isn't even that damn big.

The creator said it you can google it.

You say it is.

LMAO. Kratos wasn't shit because he had to trade is soul. Kratos is just a ****ing human with patheic Titan Powers to help him. He's way more durable than Kratos'll every be. He wouldn't rip shit he's too slow and Dante will unleash E&I on his ass at minigun speed.

He had Godly power. Atlas was weak. Kratos has to depend on Brute Force. Dante doesn't use brute force so there's no telling how strong he could possibly be. And Atlas could have crushed him if he wanted too.

So? Dante got defeated in his weakest forms but he was ready for another right.

Yeah with the help of Pandora's Box. Alastor cut-scene? That was cheap to but hell Dante got right back up.

No Savior>>>Bigger Than Zeus in size infact. He didn't resist them. He never did any strength test with them. And he had to trick Zeus.

YouTube video

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Savior is waaay bigger M8[Atleast 2x the size of Zeus].

So? It was just a regular sword no magic or anything.

It can stop ANYTHING[and with Dreadnought armor]it turns him invincible. Unless your talking about the attack Zeus pulled on the Titans.

Dante is from the future. Well since your bringing up that. Dante can just cut Krato's thread if that's in the case.[Even though it's kind pathetic]

Gameplay feat.

1. What are you talking about? I was talking about Kratos and Dante's respective sizes jack.

2. Then PROVE it, and do it in English next time, the burden of proof is on you, not on me, you have to present it.

3. I say it is? That's your "argument?" Ya see children, take note of the fact that he did not actually make an attempt to refute my argument, so he just committed a Circular Fallacy by basically saying I'm wrong, because I'm wrong. When fact of the matter is, none of Dante's weapons have shown to be even 1/4 as powerful as the Blade of Olympus.

4. Had to trade his soul? He was killed by Zeus, the most powerful of the Gods, using the Blade of the Olympus, the most powerful weapon in GoW mythos, and this is after the Blade of Olympus was further empowered by Kratos' remaining God powers, and was just crushed by the Collossus of Rhodes, so Kratos was already weakened from trading his powers, and was even more-so weakened when crushed. And Kratos isn't a pussy with a healing factor like Dante is. And notice again children, how he ignored the completely true durability feat from Kratos which was an indication of superhuman durability, and just made another fallacious statement that Dante is more durable without saying WHY. As for Kratos being slower than Dante, yeah in terms of movement, but in terms of reflexes Kratos has blocked and deflected lightning. So no, Dante is not too fact for Kratos. And your statement that Kratos is a human is ignorant, wrong, and biased, he was a Demi-God, but now is the Time God, having inherited the Sister's Powers, and has access to the Blade of Olympus, the strongest weapon in GoW.

5. Atlas was trying to crush him but could not, Atlas is weak lol? Atlas can physically manhandle ANYTHING in DMC, he holds up the fvckin Earth's crust for God's sake, and hell, if we go by his real job in mythology, he holds up all of space. And why is Dante stronger? Other than your fanboyish wet-dreams I mean.

6. Dante's weakest form is still fvcking superhuman smart one, weakest is relative, Kratos' weakest form was a normal human.

7. Which just gave him size. And Dante has a healing factor to rely on, Kratos does not.

8. Um, yeah, in the first few seconds of the Zeus video, we see Kratos push Zeus to the ground and then see them both wrestling for the Blade. As for Savior being bigger, no he isn't. Not by much anyway. Look at them both when they are close, their hands are about the same size and in the cut-scene their sizes are clearly comparable, Savior is maybe a little bigger, not by much.

9. It wasn't a regular sword, it was the BLADE OF THE GODS. The Gods empowered it with their own energies, which gave it power, wtf do you consider "magic?" Oh, because it didn't shoot lazers? It was not a regular sword.

10. It can stop anything? That's a biased no-limits fallacy, and the invincibility is a gameplay mechanic, and is also a no-limits fallacy. Prove it can stop power on par with the Blade. 🙂 And yeah, when Zeus made the Blade, it had near world scaping power, and guess what? It has only gotten more powerful.

11. Only Dante does not have access to the Loom Chamber, Kratos does, and Kratos does not need to use it to travel time anymore, and he can travel to the future.

12. No, the gameplay mechanics are that it takes a few seconds to work, all it would really have to do is look Dante in the eyes.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Mundus is not a God, but a higher demon who rules over lesser demons. And pray tell, how in the world could Dante beat an Archangel like Michael or any archangel for that matter? Is Sparda stronger than the forces of heaven, or did Dante used some other power source to beat an archangel? I think the DMV manga/anime is just ridiculous if this is true.

Actually he is a God. He may just not "God" in his title. He beat Michael in SMT. Never did I say he was stronger than the forces of Heaven. Actually no he used his own power.

Originally posted by Gumachi
But is it used OUTSIDE gameplay.

Several Gods? It's just empowered by Zeus & Kratos's powers[The Blade was created from lighting--Lighting God--Zeus was Lighting God then--and Krato's Power. As for the wound that was made to Kratos

YouTube video it's not THAT big as your trying to make it seem like it is.

So? When you impale Thesus there isn't a hole inside him. Why couldn't he regenerate from The Blade?

Meaning? The Blades of Athena/Chaos are tiny and Zeus shed tons of blood from that.

You know he let him do that? Better than being owned by a Barbarian King. The Gods are nonething what kind of "God" gets their ass kicked by mortals?

Gaia is Mother-Earth and the Narrator stop trying to dodge it. Kratos=Mortal. Ares even called Kratos a Mortal. http://www.us.playstation.com/PS2/Games/God_of_War_II And just because he's the "Son of Zeus" doesn't mean he's tough--Look at Perseus. Kratos just has strength of a God but he's still a mortal. Kratos was called a Mortal twice from Gaia. If he isn't God Kratos what is he Mortal Kratos.

Then why is he helping you? Because I don't see anyone else joining in.

I never said The Savior attacks would hurt him. So don't try to twist my words against me. YOUR the one who's acting as if The Blade can kill anything in any universe. Like I said that's IF The Blade can kill him at all. I don't care who The Blade was created by. Like I said a Mortal can survive it Dante can as well. See your saying it could hurt his Sparda's form stop trying to act as if it can hurt anything[even though it damn shure wouldn't]. It's just a sword forged from lighting[or Heavens and Earth] and added power from Kratos.

Lie.

Dreadnought armor--Considering the fact that Eurayle's Rage is gameplay. Or if that doesn't work he can use a Cerberus Magic Barrier--Protecting him from ALL ATTACKS[or use Nevan's Magic Barrier]. Or unleash a Giant laser cannon onto him.
So aparently Dante is durable[atleast when he TKed the beam bounced off him].

He won't let him power it up? If it worked on Argosax it will do the same to Kratos. He won't even see him and by the time he looks straight he's toast. And he literally was about to LET the Barbarian lift up his hammer and kill him.[whatever else was going on it took a while] Slow? You call guns that has ability too shot at minigun speeds[which would kill Kratos]slow? Or he could teleport behind Kratos. And chop his head off[and no his reflexes wouldn't be fast enough]or if he could chop his legs off. Or summon 1000s of electric bloodsucking, bloodthristy bats.

I'll only agree to stop if you do.

no its not "used" its spoken of however and part of the storyline, but ive already outlined this, your getting confused about rules agian, gameplay feats are fine, as long as their not gameplay mechanics that are not true statistics of a real world.

Zeus is a God, Kratos God powers are in there as well, both Gods powers..

Its enormous compared to Yamato, Sparda sword etc etc...far larger than anything Dante has been hit by and far more powerful.

What do you mean so...if theres zero wounds, theres zero wounds.....Theseus is never impaled by the blade of Olmypus.

well you were trying to debate the Sparda sword was a large weapon, I proved you wrong and you just admitted you were, well done....the first step on the way to enlightenment is to admit your wrong.

Any God can get its ass kicked, you dont understand the use of titles, perhaps just because the Queen is the ruler of all of England she can defeat entire armies with her queenlike powerz!

Ime not dodging anything, she obviously does not know Kratos is Zeus' son, and Zeus tells us this at the end of the game, so stop trying to ignore the game with your delusions. Because Ares doesnt know either idiot. Hes Demi-God kratos, just like anyone born from a God (in this case Zeus) is a Demi-God.

I told you my guess, maybe he thinks your a funny little kid who fanboys about Dante and is bored....you ask him not me...

Its an enormous weapon thats SHOWN FEATS OF WIPING OUT ARMIES AND SLICING THROUGH BEINGS thats what gives me the right to say it would slice through any form of Dante with ease unless you can dig up a feat that makes him more impressive and durable, idiot.....

lie? then show me this time when he survived something close to the blade of Olmypus...amuse me...

The beam didnt touch him so no hes not durable and you cannot TK energy, its not physical, all he did was refelect it with his eyes, hes never done it again afterwards to any entity.

Cerberas and Nevan barriers being able to survive any attack is gameplay, you have to use feats of the objects to define their durability.

No it wouldnt, the stupid entity Embodiment of despair was pathetic in general but most of all it just stood there and let Dante shoot it....Kraots wouldnt let that slow charge happen...

nah, ive no reason to stop, your the one who said you "may" stop, but your nonsense is just too amusing.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Actually he is a God. He may just not "God" in his title. He beat Michael in SMT. Never did I say he was stronger than the forces of Heaven. Actually no he used his own power.

All "god" is, is a title or a name if were talking with the Christan "God" but no, Mundus is no God.....hes simply a stronger demon than the others in DMC but hes not very powerful.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Nah, you see, unlike you my arguments are not fallacious and stupid.

1. What are you talking about? I was talking about Kratos and Dante's respective sizes jack.

2. Then PROVE it, and do it in English next time, the burden of proof is on you, not on me, you have to present it.

3. I say it is? That's your "argument?" Ya see children, take note of the fact that he did not actually make an attempt to refute my argument, so he just committed a Circular Fallacy by basically saying I'm wrong, because I'm wrong. When fact of the matter is, none of Dante's weapons have shown to be even 1/4 as powerful as the Blade of Olympus.

4. Had to trade his soul? He was killed by Zeus, the most powerful of the Gods, using the Blade of the Olympus, the most powerful weapon in GoW mythos, and this is after the Blade of Olympus was further empowered by Kratos' remaining God powers, and was just crushed by the Collossus of Rhodes, so Kratos was already weakened from trading his powers, and was even more-so weakened when crushed. And Kratos isn't a pussy with a healing factor like Dante is. And notice again children, how he ignored the completely true durability feat from Kratos which was an indication of superhuman durability, and just made another fallacious statement that Dante is more durable without saying WHY. As for Kratos being slower than Dante, yeah in terms of movement, but in terms of reflexes Kratos has blocked and deflected lightning. So no, Dante is not too fact for Kratos. And your statement that Kratos is a human is ignorant, wrong, and biased, he was a Demi-God, but now is the Time God, having inherited the Sister's Powers, and has access to the Blade of Olympus, the strongest weapon in GoW.

5. Atlas was trying to crush him but could not, Atlas is weak lol? Atlas can physically manhandle ANYTHING in DMC, he holds up the fvckin Earth's crust for God's sake, and hell, if we go by his real job in mythology, he holds up all of space. And why is Dante stronger? Other than your fanboyish wet-dreams I mean.

6. Dante's weakest form is still fvcking superhuman smart one, weakest is relative, Kratos' weakest form was a normal human.

7. Which just gave him size. And Dante has a healing factor to rely on, Kratos does not.

8. Um, yeah, in the first few seconds of the Zeus video, we see Kratos push Zeus to the ground and then see them both wrestling for the Blade. As for Savior being bigger, no he isn't. Not by much anyway. Look at them both when they are close, their hands are about the same size and in the cut-scene their sizes are clearly comparable, Savior is maybe a little bigger, not by much.

9. It wasn't a regular sword, it was the BLADE OF THE GODS. The Gods empowered it with their own energies, which gave it power, wtf do you consider "magic?" Oh, because it didn't shoot lazers? It was not a regular sword.

10. It can stop anything? That's a biased no-limits fallacy, and the invincibility is a gameplay mechanic, and is also a no-limits fallacy. Prove it can stop power on par with the Blade. 🙂 And yeah, when Zeus made the Blade, it had near world scaping power, and guess what? It has only gotten more powerful.

11. Only Dante does not have access to the Loom Chamber, Kratos does, and Kratos does not need to use it to travel time anymore, and he can travel to the future.

12. No, the gameplay mechanics are that it takes a few seconds to work, all it would really have to do is look Dante in the eyes.

1.W/e you say.

2.Look at the vid abov[the one where you say Kratos]

3. But can The Blade cut thru dementions? And cut people without the sword touch them?

4.He's is too fast for him. Dante was fast enough to hit raindrops and for the rain not to hit him. That's just reflexes. He's too slow to even hit Dante.

5.Look at the video Titans vs Zeus. Hades ripped out his Atlas soul making him weak. Atlas could have crushed him. You saw it as well as I did. Atlas LET hit spread out his hands. If he wanted to he would have crushed him. Never did I say he was stronger.

6.What?

7.Actually he doesn't rely on it he was born with it. If he relies on healing fact Kratos relies on God's powers.

8.They arn't the same size Savior is atleast 2x the size of Zeus.

9.So? That doesn't mean anything. The Blade of The Gods could mean just a regular sword. It showed that it wasn't a regular sword.

10.Okay then Cerberus Magic Barrier--IT can summon a Crystal Ball and Dante is invuranble to ALL ATTACKS. Besides he can block attacks from The Savior

11.A lie. If Kratos can get to there Dante can. How do you know he doesn't have access. Anyone could rush in there. He doesn't have access? That doesn't make much sense. He doesn't need it because he's already in the mirror. Gaia said the power of the fates resides in the mirror. If the Fates needed a mirror to go back so does Kratos. Prove to me he can. He can only travel in the past and into the present. He can't travel into the future. If so why didn't he? Besides we don't know when DMC was set. Anyone could easily make it to the Fate's Temple and cut his thread. And he can only control his own thread.

12.It can only stone mortals or anything lower. How do you know he can be stoned? Besides Nevan? Lucifer? Magic Barrier.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Actually he is a God. He may just not "God" in his title. He beat Michael in SMT. Never did I say he was stronger than the forces of Heaven. Actually no he used his own power.

Michael there falls under "corrupted angel" and if you look into SMT game mechanics, while Dante is uber there against demons\corrupted angels he's nearly useless against non-demonic enemies such as the last boss.

And Mundus is a god in the same sence as greek gods were- in DMCverse human\demon war was the inspiration for moth myths. Not in Yahweh (spelling?) sence.

Dante is your classic "demigod" type of characters Greek\Roman mythology (and multiple others since DMC wasn't based off any particular mythology) littered with. But that's it.

The ONLY CLEAR advantage Dante has there is speed. And they BOTH have reacted on lightning (Blitzes, anyone?). Blade of Olympus is a weapon I don't see anything from Dante's arsenal matching in overall power (not versatility). Game mechanics or not, but RG and ice shield is nice saving grace from most of the arsenal minus said blade (though it's horribly overhyped on boards sometimes).

As for canon\non-canon debate littering that thread:
1. Anime and manga=canon. Manga is set pre-DMC3, anime- "missing year(s) between DMC1 and DMC4". The only thing that makes it otherwise is the absence of Morrison as Dante's "Dr Watson" in DMC4.
2. SMT III:Nocturne isn't canon in anything but Dante stats (which are taken from DMC2).
3. Viewtiful Joe=non-canon.
4. Dante styles=canon, that's not something optional player chooses to have or not to have, Dante has them in DMC4 as AI controlled character as well.

And this thread is boooring...

Let me also remember you that demigods used to hurt\kill gods all the time in Greek mythology🙂 That says something looking as Dante's technically=most of Greek demigods in status.

Gumachi still doesnt understand what cannot be used in the debate, he is still using no limits fallacies, gameplay mechanics like dreadnaught or cerberas barriers being invulerable for their duration etc....

these are mechanics Gumachi, however objects that characters gain in the storyline like Euryales head or the sword of Sparda are usable because their not gampelay mechanics.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Gumachi still doesnt understand what cannot be used in the debate, he is still using no limits fallacies, gameplay mechanics like dreadnaught or cerberas barriers being invulerable for their duration etc....

these are mechanics Gumachi, however objects that characters gain in the storyline like Euryales head or the sword of Sparda are usable because their not gampelay mechanics.

Gameplay mechanics= total invulnerability, they do afford a degree of that. Saving from the weapon such as Blade of Olympus would be said no-limits fallacy (Dante BARELY deflected disintegrating blast from Mundus). Blade of Olympus may give Soul Reaver run for his money for being the most powerful (not versatile) sword in VGs. I can actually believe that said blade hits Dante.

Styles are canon cause they're not "optional things" unlike some spells\materia and ARE used by said character even as NPC. That's what I'm trying to say- not exploit no limits fallacy (though Kratos fans do rely on it as well there from what I can see in the thread (boring thing)).

Originally posted by Burning thought
no its not "used" its spoken of however and part of the storyline, but ive already outlined this, your getting confused about rules agian, gameplay feats are fine, as long as their not gameplay mechanics that are not true statistics of a real world.

Zeus is a God, Kratos God powers are in there as well, both Gods powers..

Its enormous compared to Yamato, Sparda sword etc etc...far larger than anything Dante has been hit by and far more powerful.

What do you mean so...if theres zero wounds, theres zero wounds.....Theseus is never impaled by the blade of Olmypus.

well you were trying to debate the Sparda sword was a large weapon, I proved you wrong and you just admitted you were, well done....the first step on the way to enlightenment is to admit your wrong.

Any God can get its ass kicked, you dont understand the use of titles, perhaps just because the Queen is the ruler of all of England she can defeat entire armies with her queenlike powerz!

Ime not dodging anything, she obviously does not know Kratos is Zeus' son, and Zeus tells us this at the end of the game, so stop trying to ignore the game with your delusions. Because Ares doesnt know either idiot. Hes Demi-God kratos, just like anyone born from a God (in this case Zeus) is a Demi-God.

I told you my guess, maybe he thinks your a funny little kid who fanboys about Dante and is bored....you ask him not me...

Its an enormous weapon thats [b]SHOWN FEATS OF WIPING OUT ARMIES AND SLICING THROUGH BEINGS thats what gives me the right to say it would slice through any form of Dante with ease unless you can dig up a feat that makes him more impressive and durable, idiot.....

lie? then show me this time when he survived something close to the blade of Olmypus...amuse me...

The beam didnt touch him so no hes not durable and you cannot TK energy, its not physical, all he did was refelect it with his eyes, hes never done it again afterwards to any entity.

Cerberas and Nevan barriers being able to survive any attack is gameplay, you have to use feats of the objects to define their durability.

No it wouldnt, the stupid entity Embodiment of despair was pathetic in general but most of all it just stood there and let Dante shoot it....Kraots wouldnt let that slow charge happen...

nah, ive no reason to stop, your the one who said you "may" stop, but your nonsense is just too amusing.

All "god" is, is a title or a name if were talking with the Christan "God" but no, Mundus is no God.....hes simply a stronger demon than the others in DMC but hes not very powerful. [/B]

1.Well explain it better can you?

2.Power of the Lighting God and Power of War[God of War]

3.So? Doesn't mean he can regenerate as he's hit he's already regenerate no matter how big the wound is.

4.No but he was impaled by a spear. He didn't regenerate from The Blade.

5.When it swings it is.

6.Kicked by a mortal.

7.Gaia is Mother Earth knows all. Ares is the son of Zeus also. Kratos is a mortal. It's has been said in the God of War book. Kratos is a mortal so stop making excuses.

8.I don't give a **** what HE thinks. It's not like he's a fanboy or anything. He THINKS but doesn't know. Infact if i'm a fanboy for saying Dante can beat Kratos. That makes anyone else a fanboy for sharing a opinion.

9.Not DMC2 Dante. As soon as he hit he regenerates like I said if a mortal can survive Dante can.

10.I wasn't talking about that but something else you mentioned.

11.It's a Godly Beam. He can TK it. Actually the beam did touch him otherwise it wouldn't have blasted off him. He can do the same to The Blade.

12.Actually it says it in the Cerberus info it can block[or dodge]all attacks.

13.He can do the same to Kratos regardless. Kratos was about to take the BK king and kill him and that took a while. He just stood there? He's stupid? IF he's stupid The Fates are dumb as well they would have cut Kratos thread when they saw him as a threat.

14.All your doing is trying to make me quit so you can say you have won. I know what you are doing.

15.So why do you call the GOW Gods "GOD" then?

Look at the statements above[Lucifer, Pandora's Box, etc) on how he could kill Kratos.

Judgment Cut[the sword doesn't have to hit him]>>>Kratos.

As for RG blocking The Blades attack it says in the info Dreadnought is invernable[sp?] And he could asorb all attacks then use RoyalRelease.

The word "God" is used in byblical sence too much in the thread. If we look at classic Greek\Roman mythology, what do we see in that thread?

A demigod (son of a supernatural character who inspired the natives of his word on creation the legends about "god of war"- Sparda was a warlord in demon armies before he turned on those whom he was supposed to lead) vs an usurper of god power. Nothing "unequal" from terms of Greek myths.
The only thing Kratos has as "Die Wunderwaffe" there is Blade of Olympus which (if that connects) can easily end Dante... on the other hand, being still Earthbound mortal who just happens to get divine powers (not being reborn as actual diety AFAIR) Kratos can still get his head sliced off by Yamato.

Well he can easily cut his head off with Yamato[Judgement Cut]since Yamato doesn't hit him literally 😕

Originally posted by Gumachi
Well he can easily cut his head off with Yamato[Judgement Cut]since Yamato doesn't hit him literally 😕

That's what I meant, darling, the very dimension microrift that cuts through ANY Earthbound matter no matter how hard it is (doesn't actually cuts but opens portal through it).
Kratos is not hellbound, neither he's an actual diety=dimension rift works just fine, and given relative speed AND comparable reaction speed Dante is likely the first one to hit.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
That's what I meant, darling, the very dimension microrift that cuts through ANY Earthbound matter no matter how hard it is (doesn't actually cuts but opens portal through it).
Kratos is not hellbound, neither he's an actual diety=dimension rift works just fine, and given relative speed AND comparable reaction speed Dante is likely the first one to hit.

Well too bad I can't use the things in the Anime.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Well too bad I can't use the things in the Anime.

DMC anime is within DMC canon (Morrison replacing Enzo as Dante's manager, though, but in DMC1 we see Enzo receiving serious beating from Trish when said Trish was getting intel on Dante, so it's easy to assume that Mr Ferrino wasn't in shape for business and Dante changed his agent).
In DMC4, however, he works without any agents period, establishing "password" system.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
DMC anime is within DMC canon (Morrison replacing Enzo as Dante's manager, though, but in DMC1 we see Enzo receiving serious beating from Trish when said Trish was getting intel on Dante, so it's easy to assume that Mr Ferrino wasn't in shape for business and Dante changed his agent).
In DMC4, however, he works without any agents period, establishing "password" system.

So can the things said in DMC Anime count in this thread?

Just to hopefully clear things up, demigods are mortals... and since Kratos is the son of Zeus, that makes him a demigod, not that the title demigod makes any special difference in this case but it seemed that some people didnt understand that.

"Alastor[Lighting God], meaning "Avenger", was a genius of familial feuds in classical mythology, and encouraged violent retribution. In this respect, it often referred to Zeus, the lightning god. In Christian demonology, it became the chief executioner of Hell"

Don't forget Hephaestus gave Zeus his thunder/lighting bolts.

Alastor is a demon, not a God, you keep going on about that but there are no Gods in DMC...

furthermore no, DMC anime cannot count as it is not considered canon by the forums rules regardless of their canon outside the forum...