Kratos vs Dante

Originally posted by Gumachi
But your also forgetting Dante can throw a pencil in Krato's eye and kill him.

He barely could hit it off with his wife. He has no women just sluts he has sex with. Dante actually had sex[I think]and he could've hit it off with Lady, Trish, and Lucia.

Dante can kill Kratos just by looking.

A mortal is a human.

That's if Dante doesn't turn and pick up Yamato.

What Wil said lol.

Not really coz Dante doesnt have the strength to lift a pencil....

could have but didnt...you dont even know if Dante has had sex or not lol...hes a vergin, admit it 🤣

Kratos doesnt even have to look, Dante would die on Kratos' whim.

Then why did you say a mortal cant defeat a human wally lol

What Wil said was his typical troll he usually does 😄

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
Because Kratos is a loser

Good joke

Good joke as well

😕

Idiot

And yet Kratos isn't the king, haha

yeh he is, Elvis is simply a stand in...Kratos is the real king so you lose....like you do all the time so your used to it 😂

but ok Gumachi, ill give you a last chance to prove you can debate on these forums:

Until you explain or forget (concede that they dont excist) the following lies Ime not debating with your rubbish and I doubt anyone else will until you start to debate using logic, the rules of the forum and the rules of debating, the lies are the following:

-titles mean something-

youve said this too many times, every debator on this website says otherwise and its logical, there is no reason why the Queen just because shes the queen of England and has a better title, mean she can defeat in battle anyone else..... the same goes for Emperor of demon world or "God"...

if a being has enough power, they can defeat any other being, being a God or Demi God or devil doesnt mean a mortal or a human cannot kill you. There is zero logic behind this.

-feats-

you seem to have a problem with understanding feats, feats is what give characters their powers in debates, if a character has a non gameplay mechanic feat (usually seen in their cinematics or described elseware) they can use it, their highest feat whether it be a durability feat, strength, power is their used power/stength/durability etc, if Dantes highest durability feat is below kratos' power feat, then Dante will die.

youve said many lies like the following:

Mundus is Satan, the simple truth is he is not nor does being called Satan make any diffrence to who he is, he is still a characters who has very few feats...which means he would not suddenly defeat anyone just because you like him more..thats called Fanboyism...

also you need to start giving real reasons and taking into account the feats of the characters your against, simply saying Dante can use any power instantly and defeat any foe falls on deaf ears when youve got no proof...

you also have problems understanding gameplay mechanics, damage weapons do in gameplay is a mechanic, dante surviving slashes from demons in gameplay mean nothing, same with how some characters in God of war can survive more than a few slashes even when their human...gameplay mechanics are irrelvent.

oh and stop with your fanboyism claims of "oh Sparda is a God coz I love him lots and so therefore so is Dante and Berial" none of these characters, nor the Saviour, nor most of DMC are Gods, they simply dont have the title. Ime sure everyone especially those who know about DMC are sick of your rediciulous fanboyism, lies and claims that are illogical and simply not stated.

Originally posted by Burning thought
but ok Gumachi, ill give you a last chance to prove you can debate on these forums:

Until you explain or forget (concede that they dont excist) the following lies Ime not debating with your rubbish and I doubt anyone else will until you start to debate using logic, the rules of the forum and the rules of debating, the lies are the following:

-titles mean something-

youve said this too many times, every debator on this website says otherwise and its logical, there is no reason why the Queen just because shes the queen of England and has a better title, mean she can defeat in battle anyone else..... the same goes for Emperor of demon world or "God"...

if a being has enough power, they can defeat any other being, being a God or Demi God or devil doesnt mean a mortal or a human cannot kill you. There is zero logic behind this.

-feats-

you seem to have a problem with understanding feats, feats is what give characters their powers in debates, if a character has a non gameplay mechanic feat (usually seen in their cinematics or described elseware) they can use it, their highest feat whether it be a durability feat, strength, power is their used power/stength/durability etc, if Dantes highest durability feat is below kratos' power feat, then Dante will die.

youve said many lies like the following:

Mundus is Satan, the simple truth is he is not nor does being called Satan make any diffrence to who he is, he is still a characters who has very few feats...which means he would not suddenly defeat anyone just because you like him more..thats called Fanboyism...

also you need to start giving real reasons and taking into account the feats of the characters your against, simply saying Dante can use any power instantly and defeat any foe falls on deaf ears when youve got no proof...

you also have problems understanding gameplay mechanics, damage weapons do in gameplay is a mechanic, dante surviving slashes from demons in gameplay mean nothing, same with how some characters in God of war can survive more than a few slashes even when their human...gameplay mechanics are irrelvent.

oh and stop with your fanboyism claims of "oh Sparda is a God coz I love him lots and so therefore so is Dante and Berial" none of these characters, nor the Saviour, nor most of DMC are Gods, they simply dont have the title. Ime sure everyone especially those who know about DMC are sick of your rediciulous fanboyism, lies and claims that are illogical and simply not stated.

Mundus was called a God. I have given you the defintion of God and it fits Sparda. Lies? No. I have given you the definition of God. Even the links to capcom's website on how Alastor and Ifrit were Gods.

Merriam-Webster's 11th Ed. Collegiate Dictionary, page 536, right column. Approximately halfway down the page.

1 God - n. ... 2- A being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship.

Sparda[Argosax, Mundus, Berial, etc most definitely has more than natural attributes and powers, and he also most definitely has his own nation-sect of worship. Yup, they are god.

You don't have to be called a God to be one. Heck, Mundus was also called Lord. If you saying they arn't Gods. Then that means the rest GOW Gods arn't as well.

Dante has been proved to be more powerful as demons and mortals. Dante is called a Devil[when you asked me to show proof of him being a mortal].

Fanboyism? No. Your saying i'm a fanboy. I'm not obsessed with any video-game chracter like you are with Kain. Now lots of people have admitted the obsession over Kain you have[esp. how he can't die].

Only by that definition of a God....a God can mean many diffrent things, your deifnition there seems like the lowest form of a God, yet youve also got the "God" in Christian religion who is all powerful.....another reason why titles are a load of rubbish anyway.

The fact remains, the fiction itself does not call the characters Gods, in God of War the characters are real Gods, not because of anything to do with worship or supernatural abilities, thats their spiecies, thats what they are.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Sparda[Argosax, Mundus, Berial, etc most definitely has more than natural attributes and powers, and he also most definitely has his own nation-sect of worship. Yup, they are god.

You don't have to be called a God to be one. Heck, Mundus was also called Lord. If you saying they arn't Gods. Then that means the rest GOW Gods arn't as well.

Dante has been proved to be more powerful as demons and mortals. Dante is called a Devil[when you asked me to show proof of him being a mortal].

Can you prove that Berial is worshiped? and when is Mundus worshiped, but this is besides the point.

And yes you do, its a spiecies in the God of war games, its an actual type of being, wheras your definition simply shows it as a title, wheras in GOW its not a title, its a spieces of being.

Hes been proven that he can defeat some demons, and some mortal,s the fact alone that he is HALF devil does not mean he is not mortal....for example he ages...so he cannot be immortal either...

Originally posted by Gumachi

Fanboyism? No. Your saying i'm a fanboy. I'm not obsessed with any video-game chracter like you are with Kain. Now lots of people have admitted the obsession over Kain you have[esp. how he can't die].

Anyone would call you a fanboy for constantly trying to say Dante can somehow solo the whole of Mount Olmypus Gods? yet you fail to bring proof that he can survive any weapons and ignore the advice of Charlotte debel who knows vastly more than you in DMC and is also a fan of DMC.....who indeed said that he would die if hit by the Blade of Olmypus.

Lots of people? whom, can any of them debate that? no, they fail every time, I can probably bring up a spell or ability easily to defeat opponents for Kain and back it up with logic and reasoning, thats what makes me not a fanboy, and its been proven that Kain cannot die many times on this forum in many diffrent ways.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Only by that definition of a God....a God can mean many diffrent things, your deifnition there seems like the lowest form of a God, yet youve also got the "God" in Christian religion who is all powerful.....another reason why titles are a load of rubbish anyway.

The fact remains, the fiction itself does not call the characters Gods, in God of War the characters are real Gods, not because of anything to do with worship or supernatural abilities, thats their spiecies, thats what they are.

Can you prove that Berial is worshiped? and when is Mundus worshiped, but this is besides the point.

And yes you do, its a spiecies in the God of war games, its an actual type of being, wheras your definition simply shows it as a title, wheras in GOW its not a title, its a spieces of being.

Hes been proven that he can defeat some demons, and some mortal,s the fact alone that he is [b]HALF devil does not mean he is not mortal....for example he ages...so he cannot be immortal either... [/B]

He's a God regardless. Real Gods? Greek Gods are fake. They are Gods because if what they do I think.

It's said. That people worshipped them.[well maybe not Berial]

It's a title. Because Zeus is mostly called King of Olympus.

Mortal=Humans. Dante isn't a human.

Originally posted by Gumachi
He's a God regardless. Real Gods? Greek Gods are fake. They are Gods because if what they do I think.

It's said. That people worshipped them.[well maybe not Berial]

It's a title. Because Zeus is mostly called King of Olympus.

Mortal=Humans. Dante isn't a human.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Anyone would call you a fanboy for constantly trying to say Dante can somehow solo the whole of Mount Olmypus Gods? yet you fail to bring proof that he can survive any weapons and ignore the advice of Charlotte debel who knows vastly more than you in DMC and is also a fan of DMC.....who indeed said that he would die if hit by the Blade of Olmypus.

Lots of people? whom, can any of them debate that? no, they fail every time, I can probably bring up a spell or ability easily to defeat opponents for Kain and back it up with logic and reasoning, thats what makes me not a fanboy, and its been proven that Kain cannot die many times on this forum in many diffrent ways.

I haven't seen you but YOU call me that. Solo? He has Titans backing him up. You think he can take the Gods on at 1 time? No. He could rarely kill Zeus now he can kill 5 Gods at once. Judgment Cut kill Kratos. The only way to kill Dante is by ripping out his heart or wearing down his regeneration[stated by Capcom]. Kratos was extremely weak and he survied The Blade, Dante could as well. He has to IMPALE him. Hell actually he has to wear down his regeneration.

They fail? I've seen you get owned lots of times.

Proven? But have you ACTUALLY PROVEN it?

Even Zeus said "We"[=Gods]are who the mortals worshipped. Dante has been hurt by far worse than The Blade. He had been stabbed by a God taken a Sword Form.

Originally posted by Gumachi
He's a God regardless. Real Gods? Greek Gods are fake. They are Gods because if what they do I think.

It's said. That people worshipped them.[well maybe not Berial]

It's a title. Because Zeus is mostly called King of Olympus.

Mortal=Humans. Dante isn't a human.

King of Olmypus is his title, but the Gods in GOW are mostly a race of beings.

Where is it said, show me pelase....

false, Dante is half human and he fits the definition of human:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/human

having human form or attributes b: susceptible to or representative of the sympathies and frailties of human nature <such an inconsistency is very human — P. E. More>

Originally posted by Gumachi
I haven't seen you but YOU call me that. Solo? He has Titans backing him up. You think he can take the Gods on at 1 time? No. He could rarely kill Zeus now he can kill 5 Gods at once. Judgment Cut kill Kratos. The only way to kill Dante is by ripping out his heart or wearing down his regeneration[stated by Capcom]. Kratos was extremely weak and he survied The Blade, Dante could as well. He has to IMPALE him. Hell actually he has to wear down his regeneration.

They fail? I've seen you get owned lots of times.

Proven? But have you ACTUALLY PROVEN it?

Even Zeus said "We"[=Gods]are who the mortals worshipped. Dante has been hurt by far worse than The Blade. He had been stabbed by a God taken a Sword Form.

Judgement cut is slow to start, Kratos could also just as easily kill Dante with Blade of Olmypus beam...

In the DMC universe, your comitting a fallacy here by assuming Kratos could not damage Dante with a sword far more powerful than any Dante has faced...

Kratos never survived the blade, he died.....

yes many times, its a well known fact of Kain by most on this forum

No Dante has not, Dante was stabbed by a weak sword of little power, it has zero feats....show me Alastors feats, if you read my post earlier I told you feats make the power, so what are the feats of hte sword? what has it done thats impressive?

Originally posted by Burning thought
King of Olmypus is his title, but the Gods in GOW are mostly a race of beings.

Where is it said, show me pelase....

false, Dante is half human and he fits the definition of human:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/human

There are Gods of space and time in DMC[golden statues]

Race of beings that are more powerful than humans[?].

In DMC3 I think. It said he was worshipped[The demons]I even think in DMC1. Mundus was called a God. Argosax was called "the most powerful evil deity"

Wrong. Dante has senses of a human[feelings]. But he's never called a human but a Devil. He is nonething like a human. And he's more superior than humans. I mean look at Lady she's a human[or more?]and they don't relate in any kind of way.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Judgement cut is slow to start, Kratos could also just as easily kill Dante with Blade of Olmypus beam...

In the DMC universe, your comitting a fallacy here by assuming Kratos could not damage Dante with a sword far more powerful than any Dante has faced...

Kratos never survived the blade, he died.....

yes many times, its a well known fact of Kain by most on this forum

No Dante has not, Dante was stabbed by a weak sword of little power, it has zero feats....show me Alastors feats, if you read my post earlier I told you feats make the power, so what are the feats of hte sword? what has it done thats impressive?

See there you go. Kratos can survive the beams. Judgment is slow? No. Who said he was close. He could still easily cut his head off. And Yamato is invisible to the human eye.

Proof? He got stabbed by a God in Sword Form.

He got cut[getting slashed]

ORLY?

IDK. Not to much it known. He still got stabbed by the Lighting/Thunder Gods sword[Alastor]. Weapons forged from the underworld kill Dante. Physically The Blade wouldn't hurt him but the energies of The Blade would[something like that].

Originally posted by Gumachi

There are Gods of space and time in DMC[golden statues]

Race of beings that are more powerful than humans[?].

In DMC3 I think. It said he was worshipped[The demons]I even think in DMC1. Mundus was called a God. Argosax was called "the most powerful evil deity"

Wrong. Dante has senses of a human[feelings]. But he's never called a human but a Devil. He is nonething like a human. And he's more superior than humans. I mean look at Lady she's a human[or more?]and they don't relate in any kind of way.

THeir just little item dispensers, theres nothing to state whether their true beings or not.

They are indeed more powerful than the average human...so whats your point?

Well what you think is neither here nor there, you need to show proof. Argosax is a perfect example of how ridiculous your claims of "titles" being important is, since for having such a title such as "most powerful evil deity" all he is, is a shiny little man with only slightly above average speed who got killed by a Handgun

Dante is very human, he has human emotions, he just has some special abilities like greater speed, regeneration, but he can still be sliced up like a human and regardless of all this....he IS as much a human, as he is a devil, exactley half....

Originally posted by Gumachi
See there you go. Kratos can survive the beams. Judgment is slow? No. Who said he was close. He could still easily cut his head off. And Yamato is invisible to the human eye.

Proof? He got stabbed by a God in Sword Form.

He got cut[getting slashed]

ORLY?

IDK. Not to much it known. He still got stabbed by the Lighting/Thunder Gods sword[Alastor]. Weapons forged from the underworld kill Dante. Physically The Blade wouldn't hurt him but the energies of The Blade would[something like that].

Kratos has shown greater durability feats than Dante, yet thats besides the point again, when was Kratos shot by one of the beams?

ive given you proof half wit, ive given you proof of the sword disintegrating an entire army, theres also proof its got the actual power of severla gods within it, Gods who have also shown far more feats than Dante in the power department....the sword has shown vastly more power than the tiny and weak Alastor

yeh...rly

See your lieing, you dont even know yet you claim its greater than the Sword of Olmypus even though both I and several other debators have shown proof of its power? thats fanboyism m8, theres no other words for it, fanboyism....the fact of the matter is, Alastor has zero feats, it has none...its done zero.....its shown no real power at all...

Originally posted by Burning thought
THeir just little item dispensers, theres nothing to state whether their true beings or not.

They are indeed more powerful than the average human...so whats your point?

Well what you think is neither here nor there, you need to show proof. Argosax is a perfect example of how ridiculous your claims of "titles" being important is, since for having such a title such as "most powerful evil deity" all he is, is a shiny little man with only slightly above average speed who got killed by a Handgun

Dante is very human, he has human emotions, he just has some special abilities like greater speed, regeneration, but he can still be sliced up like a human and regardless of all this....he [b]IS as much a human, as he is a devil, exactley half.... [/B]

It said "Statue of a God"[Mundus]they still were God.

He's more powerful than Full Demons and Humans.

Handgun? Lol your an idiot. These handgun had Godly Energy released from Dante. The Fates are even stupider and weaker[hurt by getting impaled in the head once], and if they were that powerful they would've seen Kratos would have killed them or rigged his death. And Deity=God

No. Zeus can be sliced up like a human. So does that make him a human? Zeus has human emotions. Does that make him a human?

And like I said a bullet still kills a mortal/human[Kratos]these are magical bullets and they contain Godly Energies. When the bullet hits Kratos he will die. Because his human body can not take it.

Lady: "The story goes that Sparda served as the feudal lord of the city long
ago. The people who live there today take these legends as truth and
worship him... Just like a god"

Lady called him a God.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Kratos has shown greater durability feats than Dante, yet thats besides the point again, when was Kratos shot by one of the beams?

ive given you proof half wit, ive given you proof of the sword disintegrating an entire army, theres also proof its got the actual power of severla gods within it, Gods who have also shown far more feats than Dante in the power department....the sword has shown vastly more power than the tiny and weak Alastor

yeh...rly

See your lieing, you dont even know yet you claim its greater than the Sword of Olmypus even though both I and several other debators have shown proof of its power? thats fanboyism m8, theres no other words for it, fanboyism....the fact of the matter is, Alastor has zero feats, it has none...its done zero.....its shown no real power at all...

No he hasn't.

Several Gods? Only Kratos and Zeus. Tiny has nonething to do with it.

Lying? He got stabbed by the Lighting God's sword. Zeus=Lighting God. There's no telling what it could do. Only weapons forged of the underworld can hurt[and kill]Dante. Like I said CAPCOM said that the only way to kill[I think kill]Dante is by wearing out his regeneration[which means he can regenerate from The Blade]or cutting out his heart with a Devil Arm[it was revealed in the anime which is canon and stating a fact about Dante][Underworld weapon--which Kratos doesn't have].

Originally posted by Gumachi
It said "Statue of a God"[Mundus]they still were God.

He's more powerful than Full Demons and Humans.

Handgun? Lol your an idiot. These handgun had Godly Energy released from Dante. The Fates are even stupider and weaker[hurt by getting impaled in the head once], and if they were that powerful they would've seen Kratos would have killed them or rigged his death. And Deity=God

No. Zeus can be sliced up like a human. So does that make him a human? Zeus has human emotions. Does that make him a human?

And like I said a bullet still kills a mortal/human[Kratos]these are magical bullets and they contain Godly Energies. When the bullet hits Kratos he will die. Because his human body can not take it.

Lady: "The story goes that Sparda served as the feudal lord of the city long
ago. The people who live there today take these legends as truth and
worship him... Just like a god"

Lady called him a God.

They were just statues....

which isnt saying much in DMC because the demons are weak

Its a tiny handgun, thats all it is, and it can be powered up by his devil energies, thats about it....they still have very few feats that are impressive, they cant even damage little wooden snooker balls in DMC 3

oh and thats unimpressive....when was Dante impaled right through the head then and lived?

No he cant, a human was exploded by the blade of Olympus, Zeus was impaled many many times and still survived without a cut on him.

but hes not a human, ive proven that hes a Demi- God and has shown to be able to survive the weight of the Colossus' hand, which is far heavier and more dangerous than the litlte bullets that cant damage snooker balls...

And Dante would die as soon as he is hit by the Blade of Olmypus beam, let alone the Sword itself, or he would be killed by Tornado blasts from Typhons bane.

just LIKE a God....she didnt say he was one...

Originally posted by Gumachi
No he hasn't.

Several Gods? Only Kratos and Zeus. Tiny has nonething to do with it.

Lying? He got stabbed by the Lighting God's sword. Zeus=Lighting God. There's no telling what it could do. Only weapons forged of the underworld can hurt[and kill]Dante. Like I said CAPCOM said that the only way to kill[I think kill]Dante is by wearing out his regeneration[which means he can regenerate from The Blade]or cutting out his heart with a Devil Arm[it was revealed in the anime which is canon and stating a fact about Dante][Underworld weapon--which Kratos doesn't have].

Thats the best youve got? show me a feat of durability Dante has shown over Kratos?

ofc it does, if a tiny pistol shot me in the stomach I may survive if I get help quck from a doctor, if a Tank aimed at my chest and fired I woudl be obliterated....size does matter, a lot....

Zeus is a extremely powerful God who has actually SHOWN great powers. The fact of the matter is, there is telling, theres telling because its got NO FEATS that give it any power, so no, theres no power in that sword....so try again....

Thats a no limit fallacy and either way, in this forum by the rules the anime is not canon so ime ignoring it. Dont you think God could kill Dante then? the all powerful "God" himself from the bible? I mean capcom said Dante can only be killed by getting his heart torn out by a devil arm!

Originally posted by Burning thought
yeh he is, Elvis is simply a stand in...Kratos is the real king so you lose....like you do all the time so your used to it 😂

You say I have a typical troll, look at yourself in the mirror, as this is your typical idioticness, and stupidity, actually you are always idiotic and stupid as the above post shows, 😂 .

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
You say I have a typical troll, look at yourself in the mirror, as this is your typical idioticness, and stupidity, actually you are always idiotic and stupid as the above post shows, 😂 .

reported for trolling

Originally posted by Ultimate Wil
You say I have a typical troll, look at yourself in the mirror, as this is your typical idioticness, and stupidity, actually you are always idiotic and stupid as the above post shows, 😂 .

Knock it off or you're going to get a warning. This isn't the first time I've seen this sort of attitude from you and I'm rather tired of it.