Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Gameplay objects such as the head of Euryale in GOW and what it can do, same with Dantes combos and what they can do are only really seen in effect in gameplay, however this is fine to use in VS debates, its gameplay [b]mechanics that are not allowed such as durability of some objects, saying just because in prince of persia the princes sword is never broken in gameplay even after its blocked 100 powerful attacks is invcinble and could survive Atlas and Zeus striking it at the same time is rubbish, because its a gameplay mechanic, the fact the sword is not damaged. Its the same with Dreadnought armor and Nevans/Cerberus barriers. If you use a defence item like those barriers they need actual feats and reasons behind them. Saying "in gameplay Dreadnaught armor is invulerable and so is Nevans barrier" is worthless.2. yeh so ime right....again..
3. Theres no evidence for that, he is pretty much out of the count if a sword as tiny as Yamato enters his body, hes out of battle for like 10 seconds or more....now imagine that Kratos isnt just going to stop at impaling Dante, he wouldnt just leave him there wimpering...he would continue and slice right through the guys body until theres nothing left
4. Then obviously he cant regenerate, but we were talking about Zeus so.....
5. When it swings in DT it makes it look bigger because of the energy but the actual sword is much smaller than BoO
6. yeh and Dante kicked the ass of Mundus, Dante got impaled by his own sword at his strongest in DMC 4 after getting beaten up by a kid as well.....but yeh, several people have already told you, titles dont mean anything in battle, Mortal, immortal, God etc etc
7. Prove Gaia knows all.....Zeus has already said Kratos is his son ffs....
8. No your a fanboy for not actually giving any real reasons, you say Dante can somehow survive a sword far larger and more powerful than any hes been impaled before and cannot even debate it.
9. DMC2 dante would die just as quickly as DMC 4 and any others in any of their forms, the blade of Olmypus has far higher feats of power both logically and shown. No mortal has survived the blade of Olmypus you fool.....infact no mortla has even be stabbed but your argument would be wrong anyway.
11. bring up the video again and prove it, the beam didnt even touch him, otherwise he would end up the way he did when Mundus' 3 little energy shards got stuck in him lol....
12. Gameplay mechanics, unless you think the all powerful Christian God himself cannot stop Cerberus ice block? pitiful Gumachi....thats two fallacies, gameplay mechanic, and no limits fallacy
13. Kratos wasnt going to kill BK until Ares gave him the power fool...no because you see thats PIS, plot induced stupidity, the fates could "have" dont a lot of things, so could Zeus but in the game ,the story says they didnt so they lose....same in DMC, Dante could have been killed so many times and the game would be over but the developers make the story so Dante can win.
14. Ive already won, youve got very little argument on the table. Debel has given several good attacks that Dante may actually use , I suggest you actually take them instead of floundering.
15. Because thats their title, it sitll doesnt make a diffrence in the battle but thats their names....Zeus is the God of the sky and storms, Ares (and later Kratos) is God of war etc etc....their names...
Pandoras box is out of hte question, pulling out a big box and opening it, then waiting for w/e weapon comes out will lose Dante a lot of time, leave him open for Kratos attacks and he would end up dead very very quickly.
Lucifer is a bit of a weaker version of Kratos' bow, at least the bow can make tornados which would toss dante all over the place if hes flying...
As for the final comment, gameplay mechanicles!
The fact the gameplay manuel says in its title devilish gods is not enough to outmode the actual game itself which claimed that Alastar was a devil in the sword.
because he simply wasnt given the title, not that titles matter anyway as I and many others have said 100 times before so can you please take the hint and stop trying to use titles as leverage for your characters? it doesnt work...
You have yet to show proof of this, youve not shown anything that states ripping out his heart with the devil arm is the only way, furthermore the anime is not considered canon under the Videogame VS rules, and even even furthermore....thats also a no limits fallacy..
Because a hand is heavier than fingers?
He can indeed use its barrier, but saying it can protect him from all harm is a gameplay mechanic and a no limits fallacy combined.
That video simply shows its nowhere near the size of the blade...
I dont care about all that text, its irrelvent lol.....what worth is it in the debate? [/B]
1.But wouldn't Eurayle's saying you can stone anyone? And actually for the Cerberus Magic Barrier I got the info from the game
2.Never said you was wrong.
3.He's gonna stop sooner or later. And Dante can do the same as he did for Alastor. And that's IF he can impale him.
4.Thesus was a Demigod.
5.No. Look at the video it's much bigger/longer than The Blade.
6.For 1 thing he LET him do that. 2.He wasn't at his strongest. 3.He's to superior for humans/mortals. 4.He let him do that because if he didn't he wouldn't have defeated them. 5.Mortal means something
7.So? He's still a mortal. David Jaffe said he was a mortal[I think], Gaia, Ares. Your the only one arguing he isn't and I showed you proof Kratos=a mortal. All Sons of Zeus was a mortal. If he wasn't a mortal he wouldn't have been mortally wounded by the Collosus hand.
8.So? I'm not a fanboy--if I am NOT a fanboy like your a Kain fanboy 🙂 and can Kratos survive the sword of Sparda? The Power of Sparda[THINK before you answer]
9.I mean without getting impaled[Even at Kratos weakest it couldn't bring him down]. For 1 DMC2 is at his most powerful and when he defeated Argosax he became even more powerful so 1 shot it's gonna kill him. If Zeus can take it he can.
11.Atleast he wasn't like Kratos who was hurt by a Collosus hand. I looked at the vid and it kinda didn't touch his head.
12.For 1 I never said anything about God. 2nd what does God have to do with this?
13.He wouldn't have been killed. Because if that's in the case he would've died when Vergil impaled him. That's just an excuse. He's a so-called son of Zeus but he couldn't even defeat a Barbarian King?
14.You haven't won. And you had to ask TGE for backup[i'm shure you did].
15.Aparently it does compared to what Ares did to the army.
No. Kratos can get hit by the slowest of all enemies. And who said he was close? Pandora Box would own him[Gatling Gun that turn enemies to ash?
16.No it isn't. How is Lucifer anything like a bow that shoot winds? It can't explode. And Typhon's Bow is weak. It can't even kill some enemies WITH the tornado.
17.NO. Because Vergil does it also. Judgement Cuts kills Kratos[chops his head off]. And Dante did it in DMC4. YouTube video
18.They are Gods. Making up excusues. Just admit he's a God[Thunder/Lighting God/Demon]. You can't deny what the book says.
19.Your the only person saying this.
Atleast I do have proof. And furthermore it's an canon ability of Dante stating the only way to kill him. DMC Anime is part of the games you know[kinda]
So? Atlas lifted up the world. He still needed Rage of the Titans.
But Kratos stoning everything is?
It's longer than The Blade and you would be the only person not to admit it instead of just admitting it's true.
RG is used by Vergil also.