Kratos vs Dante

Kratos is nowhere near 7 feet. Hell, isn't Zeus nearly that tall?

So? It didn't seem to be traveling at the speed of sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGRj48JJe_8 Trish isn't taller than him, right there. And she really doesn't even look taller, and if she does, she's probably taller by an inch. Look how short, Zeus makes Kratos look.

There is no proof it will seperate his body. If it didn't do it to Kratos, why Dante? Kratos isn't THAT durable from the get-go.

You only guessed he was that tall. Kratos is barely taller than Perseus YouTube video

I guess you misunderstood about me saying about Yamato.

YouTube video He easily pulled himself thru the Alsator guard. Can Kratos survive if he falls into a spike-bed? Of course not.

Kratos is 7 feet because a developer officially said he was 7 feet. Which means Zeus in human form is taller than 7 feet. Nowhere did I 'GUESS' anything.

Your logic is quite lacking, if Perseus isn't overly dwarfed by Kratos that obviously means Perseus is quite tall himself. Perhaps 6'5".

It didn't halve Kratos because one, Kratos is a bit wider than the pillar, and two, because Kratos' body was dense enough to slow down the momentum of the pillar so that the base never hit him. As established already, Kratos is wider and taller than Dante.

Dante has been pierced by things that would bounce off of Kratos' skin. Things such as ordinary scythe blades and bullets.

What do you mean the pillar never appeared to travel that fast? Kratos was miles away from Athens and in the breadth of a few words it reaches him. He was standing in the same spot he was when the cutscene first started, pushing the pandora's box.

ps: the Trish/Dante height thing was just a humorous side comment to turn your dumb ass 'shorty' remark back against you. It wasn't a serious part of the debate. That being said, Trish is standing akimbo and is still an inch taller than Dante who's standing straight. Without footwear they are probably around 5'10"-5'11". Kratos is 7 foot in just sandals. 😛

Okay, Zeus, has to be atleas 7 feet. He damn shure isn't 8 feet. Kratos doesn't look anything near 7 feet. Okay, the wrestler, 'Kain' is 7 feet, Kratos doesn't look nearly that tall. Remember the Last Spartan? Kratos looked atleast 2 feet taller than him.

Perseus looked short. If he is tall, who's short?

Wider? Yes.

Yeah, right. It wouldn't bounce off his skin, how come he couldn't just survive Collosus hand then? Remember when the Minotaur threw the axe? It would have cut him his head off(as when that guy got shot in the head with an arrow). It will not just "bounce" off his skin. How can you just say it will bounce off his skin? And we haven't even seen it happen or anything. Your talking as if bullets with bounce off him like he's Hancock or something. Are you saying those things won't penetrate his skin? And it looked like a bullet bounced off Dante.

He's still a short ****er(the way I see it) qol9WvnzlUw&feature=related @3:14/3:56 he's a little(or alot)taller than his wife.

If Kratos is a mortal, a mortal's weapon can simply kill him. If he was killed by a toothpick, it simply means he could be killed by a mortal's weapon. He didn't survive did he? No. He could be killed the same matter, as Perseus & Thesus was(as they were mortals--demigods in your terms--too).

Spoiler:

As far as the bullet, I say it could kill him because Kratos, like all the Greek Gods, retains a mortal body. Thus, it can physically be destroyed.

. Combine that with Dante's Devil magic that brings down Gods like Argosax in one shot and it'll take some first rate reasoning to convince me that Kratos could survive.

A bullet would kill Kratos because Kratos has a mortal body that is killable.

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That is why I seem to think Dante is more durable

ahem.. wheres my credit? we said the exact same thing, except he went into statistics and what not... damn cc you make me look bad.

but yeah, you halped CC win teh thred. Kratos wins, hard.

Kratos lost, hard. Just like Link lost 😄

Lulz, sir, lulz.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I was gonna give you credit, but you claimed a stomp in another thread 😛

but yeah, you halped CC win teh thred. Kratos wins, hard.

pshh, he added on to what i already said 😄

Originally posted by Gumachi
Kratos lost, hard. Just like Link lost 😄

Nevermind.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I heard groaning. Try playing it while it's not on mute and you'll hear it too. And he fainted. Unlike Kratos who was slammed on by a thousand ton colossus while his back was turned and he was done draining most of his demi-god powers and was still completely conscious despite the hit.

Groaning means nonething. Fainted? Did you see the part when he got up. Not to mention this was is weakest incarnation. Thousand ton? No. The Colossus statue wasn't even trying to put pressure on Kratos. Dante on the other hand was being PUNCHED by a Abagail (who was as big as Colossus), Abagail brought up a spike-bed, the spikes impaled Dante, Dante broke the spikes, got up, and then he held blades with Abagail. He would have died, anyway. I guess you also missed the part where Yamato can open/close the Hellgate, cuts thru dementions, is the incarnation of Vergil's spirit/soul/power, has the power to wipe out and divide darkness, and probably more.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Nah. He --passed out-- because he was hurt badly and the devil trigger kicked in to save him because he was in critical health. Besides Dante has been hurt by lesser weapons than the Yamato even in future games thus his regeneration has no proof of having gotten much if any better.

He never "passed out" he only fell nonething more. He only "passed out" when he unleashed his Demonic Side. Him unlocking his Devil Powers had nonething to do with him surviving, otherwise, you have to show proof. The developers never said he was 7-feet tall. He isn't durable to bullets (if so, why wasn't the other demigods). The pillar was traveling at the speed of sound? So was Dante....possibly Alastor. Kratos may not even be wider than Dante if you look at anime Dante. Him dying by a pillar is nonething more but a pillar. It has no godly magic or anything. He isn't durable to bullets (if so, why wasn't the other demigods). The pillar was traveling at the speed of sound? So was Dante....possibly Alastor. Kratos may not even be wider

"That also tells us that the huge collosus slap that he took as it was falling down was kratos taking that hit at his lowest level of durability. (his default health durability)."

"Atlas...weak? LMAO. There isn't a single being in DMC that is as strong as Atlas. Not even a quarter as strong."

"As for the thumb and forefinger argument....perhaps you need a reminder of just HOW small kratos looked in that situation."

So? Dante got hit (in his weakest incarnation), and as you say while breathing "hard."--he got hit by a 100 tonner. Colossus didn't even destroy the ground (not even a hand print), but as you say it's 1000 tons.

No proof. If Atlas is so strong, why was Hades pulling him down?

Plot Device. He needed power for Typhon, and not only that, but if Atlas wanted to crush Kratos, he'd be crushed.

Dante is one of the strongest physical fighters avaliable in the game, as well as having good resistance against magical/physical attacks and complete immunity agaist demonic magic such as instant death spells (I'd like to note again that it's the same version of Dante as the one used in DMC2 in terms of stats/design). Though he's good against demons\corrupted angels controlling Amala multiverse (such as Lucifer, Beelzebub and Metatron (the last one is angel, an avatar of god), he's next to useless in the fight with last boss, Kagutsuchi, the light that destroyes the universe and gives birth to the next one (mystical embodiment of Big Bang). Due to Dante's resistance to mystical attacks he doesn't die in the fight, but nothing of his attack can damage that boss so he's basically a waste of slot in that fight, though agaisnt all other bosses on the level he's great and cool and etc. Dante vs Beowulf

For those who still believe class 100 brawlers and thunderclapping are real threats to our half-demonic beauty. Dante is also strong enough to deflect falling stones with his bare fists (though it's more showing of force of hits (and in terms of that Dante has many cool feats), not lifting strength. In terms of pure lifting strength Dante has little feats, the best one in human form most probably is using his Harley as a baceball bat (so in human form he can easily lift at least 1 ton; in demonic and high demonic forms his strength is increased). By the way what exactly has Beowulf lifted/done to put him in the same league as Hulk/Hercules/Thor/Etc?

Beowulf--He's at Thing or Colossus level of strength, not on 100+ class. Of course, his punches aren't comparable to Superman's ones, and he's slow. In fact, the major evidence of him being somwhere from Class 80 to low Class 100 is his thunderclapping attack aka Tower Projectiles.

hades pulled down atlas becuase hades is a god, just because they look small doesnt mean they arent strong, gods have powers which let them do stuff like that. And if your talking about when hades put his chains around atlas, i dont think that was pure strength, first he did some shit with his soul and also the chain may have done something else to him. Kratos, plain and simple, can take more than dante can.

Hades is a 500 foot God who was piercing him with his blades and pulling his soul out. 😐

Originally posted by k1Lla441
hades pulled down atlas becuase hades is a god, just because they look small doesnt mean they arent strong, gods have powers which let them do stuff like that. And if your talking about when hades put his chains around atlas, i dont think that was pure strength, first he did some shit with his soul and also the chain may have done something else to him. Kratos, plain and simple, can take more than dante can.

So? Atlas holds up THE WORLD, and the Titans are greater than the Gods. If the Gods are so strong, why did Zeus let Kratos take The Blade from him? Do you know how small they are COMPARED to Titans? One God could fit into a Titan's hand (this was said by the Developer I think). Also, "God" is nonething but a title. Kratos can't take more than Dante, as I have just proven. YouTube video This can be explain better by BT. I may be mistaken with something. Anyway, he was pulling him down. Hell, even Cronos.

I guess Kratos, Hades, and Zeus are all just really strong huh? 🙂

As for Titans being greater than Gods...Is that why the Titans lost?

The Sisters of Fate stated that they caused the Titans to lose. The Gods were greater to Kratos, and they lost. The God's power come from the Titans (unless you're referring to Greek Myth.).

Originally posted by The Valiant
The Sisters of Fate stated that they caused the Titans to lose. The Gods were greater to Kratos, and they lost. The God's power come from the Titans (unless you're referring to Greek Myth.).

It's kind of their job, and it is why Kratos killing them is so retarded.

Kratos was shown to compete with Zeus AFTER the Sisters died. He can do so.

The God's were born from Titans...And one of the Gods ended the entire war. In one blow.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hades is a 500 foot God who was piercing him with his blades and pulling his soul out. 😐

Originally posted by The Valiant
So? Atlas holds up THE WORLD, and the Titans are greater than the Gods. If the Gods are so strong, why did Zeus let Kratos take The Blade from him? Do you know how small they are COMPARED to Titans? One God could fit into a Titan's hand (this was said by the Developer I think). Also, "God" is nonething but a title. Kratos can't take more than Dante, as I have just proven. YouTube video This can be explain better by BT. I may be mistaken with something. Anyway, he was pulling him down. Hell, even Cronos.

again, size doesnt really matter. maybe in brute strength atlas is stronger, but in that video he was shocked with lightning and his soul was being ripped out, so maybe that hindered him a little bit, dont you think?

yes, god is just a title, and they get nothing from reaching godhood except the fact they can grow 500 feet tall. But ignore that, it wouldnt make a difference anyways 😬

You have proven no such thing, and agian, just because there small does NOT mean there weak.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Sisters of Fate caused everything to happen ever. 😐

It's kind of their job, and it is why Kratos killing them is so retarded.

Kratos was shown to compete with Zeus AFTER the Sisters died. He can do so.

The God's were born from Titans...And one of the Gods ended the entire war. In one blow.

So you think Kratos defeating the Sisters was PIS?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
So you think Kratos defeating the Sisters was PIS?

Kratos loses. His feats just aren't up to Dante's level. I mean just blade of Olympus vs. Sparda sword the Blade of Olympus gets stomped. Sparda's blade stops all of hell. Blade of Olympus stops One small group of powerful beings.
Dante has teleportation.
Kratos can only move as fast as he is physically able to.
Kratos is probably physically stronger but I want to see exactly where anyone saw weapons bouncing off of his skin that makes it so Dante's bullets would bounce off like rain.
If Kratos cannot stop bullets and is slower than Dante then how can he be expected to win in any way shape or form. Dante keeps his distance and pegs him with bullets is an instant win given time on top of the fact that Dante is probably the superior swordsman due to the shear number of skilled hand to hand oponents he has faced. Mundus and Vergil being at the top of the list or at least my list.