Originally posted by The Valiant
1. No.2. Prove it. Obviously your a fanboy. Didn't you claim he wouldn't survive because of the enormous wound.
3. He never swung it, he planted it into the ground, and it sealed the Titans. I'd like to see Kratos do it, Zeus did it not Kratos.
4. Prove he hasn't. It's gameplay and it doesn't count. It was also a Plot Device and PIS. He only blocked a lighting storm, he never threw lighting back. He couldn't even react to a pillar.
5. If he wasn't trying how wasn't it little?
6. Never said it was weak. If so, quote me were I exactly said that.
7. Exactly. Easily, he would have died, what else in the hell does it mean
8. Implied what?
9. He would have died; dying instantly means nonething. So what you saying is irrevelant and invalid. If he would have survive, prove it. How is it a better feat when: A. He would have died and B. He was barely weak enough to the point where he couldn't walk?
You are a fanboy of Kratos, so don't try to pull out that fanboy bullshit on me. GoW is nonething but swinging blades, it's suppost to be like GoW. You act like GoW is perfect or something. Hell, what makes GoW better? I never said DMC was better than GoW. If it is bad, the **** do you play it for? Also, if Dante can beat Alucard, he sure as hell can beat Kratos.
1. You saying no isnt going to change the fact that you went against yourself. At first you said hades pulled him down with his own strength, then actually apologised for being mistaken later on.
2. Name one sword in dmc that has the power to imprison all the titans in one stab. Actually, name one sword in dmc that can imprison just one titan in one stab. You cant, because the blade of olympus is stronger, i just proved it.
3. Thats what i meant, same difference. In one movement of the sword he sealed all the titans away. But thats not the point, you actually tried to imply that the blade of olympus was weak becuase it didnt kill the titans and it only sealed them away. It doesnt matter whos using the sword, its a sword with godly powers, if kratos had to do it he could have, as to why he didnt do it already, probably pis. But again, i would like you to show me a sword in dmc that is stronger than the blade of olympus.
4. Its unavoidable gameplay, as in its apart of the actual game that has to happen, it counts. Just becuase lightning is in a storm doesnt mean that its slower. I never said he threw back the lightning, i only said he blocked it. As long as dante is slower than lightning, kratos can just block all of his attacks. And lastly, i dont care if he didnt react to a pillar, you dont take a characters crappiest feats and base there skill off of that.
5. Because he's atlas, he doesnt really need to try hard to apply a lot of force, i mean he does hold up the crust of the earth for all we know. Someone with that amount of strength could lightly squeeze and apply hundreds of thousands of pounds of force easily, which is what he did to kratos.
6. You implied it right here:
"2. A Titan was slayed by a little sword (compared to them)"
You implied that a titan was slain by a little sword, as if thats supposed to down grade it or something. Besides you implying that the sword is weak, there is no real purpose for this sentence, which is how i know you did imply it.
7. Again, you dont make any sense. You said that atlas was "supposed" to try not to get his soul ripped out. And i asked you how do you do even avoid getting your soul ripped out, which you never answered.
8. You said this:
"I never said him being small makes him weak"
And i said that you implied it, because you did.
9. Wait, there you go agian being confused. Kratos didnt die from the collosus' hand, he died from zues stabbing him, two different things.
Its the truth, im sorry to say. Anyone whos says that god of war is more overrated than dmc is a joke, i mean gow does get more praise than dmc, but only because it deserves it. Dmc is a decent game, one that i personally like, but it has a lot of flaws and still gets a ton of praise despite that fact. God of war is a near perfect game with minor flaws, it is definitely not overrated and if it is its no where near dmc's absurdity. God of war is better than dmc because... better story line, weapons, magic, hell, everything about god of war is better than dmc.
God of War near perfect... Don't make me laugh. There are so many inconsistancies in that game that it's not even funny. The fact is that Kratos's powers are inconsistant throughout the game. It is as if he suddenly gets massive boosts and negatives to fit whatever the story needs him to do.
For example pushing boxes takes him ridiculous amounts of time when you consider how physically strong he would have to be to survive Atlas's grip. Also consider the fact that at points Kratos's power matches gods yet their small mortal minions are capable of killing him given it is very difficult but still possible.
Also deflecting lightning was quite possibly the most ridiculous buff they could have given Kratos. If he could block lightning in the first place there would be no point in playing the game he would be litteraly unstopable by any force in the universe when it is quite obvious that he has difficulty with fighting the gods. The lightning deflection feat is complete bull and you all know it. All he would have to do is swing the sword and watch as the sonic boom destroys everything around him as well as watching the air ionize and form flames and lightning in mid-air from the forces of friction.
I move for the lightning feat to be removed as BS. If Kratos was that powerful there would be nothing even close to powerful enough to stop him blade of Olympus or no.
In my personal opinion.. yes, it is. Pushing boxes is kind of a bull situation... its called gameplay for a reason. The only time i can think of where he was pushing a box in canon was pandoras box, eh, one of the few situations where it was inconsistent, ill give you that. Pretty much all the stuff you name is based off of p.i.s, which doesnt really bother me in the least compared to gameplay, which is hard to nit pick at. And as for kratos swinging a sword and destroying everything? complete p.i.s, which isnt that big of a problem compared to a lot of games which are plagued with it. And it doesnt matter how fast his reaction times are, it doesnt mean hes unstoppable. Sure, he could probably see most attacks coming, it still doesnt mean he can stop it.
Before anyone else starts getting all pissy, let me rephrase what i said. In MY PERSONAL OPINION i believe god of war is near perfect, despite there being some p.i.s here and there.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
1. You saying no isnt going to change the fact that you went against yourself. At first you said hades pulled him down with his own strength, then actually apologised for being mistaken later on.2. Name one sword in dmc that has the power to imprison all the titans in one stab. Actually, name one sword in dmc that can imprison just one titan in one stab. You cant, because the blade of olympus is stronger, i just proved it.
3. Thats what i meant, same difference. In one movement of the sword he sealed all the titans away. But thats not the point, you actually tried to imply that the blade of olympus was weak becuase it didnt kill the titans and it only sealed them away. It doesnt matter whos using the sword, its a sword with godly powers, if kratos had to do it he could have, as to why he didnt do it already, probably pis. But again, i would like you to show me a sword in dmc that is stronger than the blade of olympus.
4. Its [b]unavoidable
gameplay, as in its apart of the actual game that has to happen, it counts. Just becuase lightning is in a storm doesnt mean that its slower. I never said he threw back the lightning, i only said he blocked it. As long as dante is slower than lightning, kratos can just block all of his attacks. And lastly, i dont care if he didnt react to a pillar, you dont take a characters crappiest feats and base there skill off of that.5. Because he's atlas, he doesnt really need to try hard to apply a lot of force, i mean he does hold up the crust of the earth for all we know. Someone with that amount of strength could lightly squeeze and apply hundreds of thousands of pounds of force easily, which is what he did to kratos.
6. You implied it right here:
"2. A Titan was slayed by a little sword (compared to them)"
You implied that a titan was slain by a little sword, as if thats supposed to down grade it or something. Besides you implying that the sword is weak, there is no real purpose for this sentence, which is how i know you did imply it.7. Again, you dont make any sense. You said that atlas was "supposed" to try not to get his soul ripped out. And i asked you how do you do even avoid getting your soul ripped out, which you never answered.
8. You said this:
"I never said him being small makes him weak"
And i said that you implied it, because you did.9. Wait, there you go agian being confused. Kratos didnt die from the collosus' hand, he died from zues stabbing him, two different things.
Its the truth, im sorry to say. Anyone whos says that god of war is more overrated than dmc is a joke, i mean gow does get more praise than dmc, but only because it deserves it. Dmc is a decent game, one that i personally like, but it has a lot of flaws and still gets a ton of praise despite that fact. God of war is a near perfect game with minor flaws, it is definitely not overrated and if it is its no where near dmc's absurdity. God of war is better than dmc because... better story line, weapons, magic, hell, everything about god of war is better than dmc. [/B]
1. All I said was "no".
2. Yeah, in it's own universe. Sparda enables you to be a God (or have the power of one), it sealed the Demon-Kings, opens the gate to Hell, it doesn't have to seal the Titans. Demonic Swords cut thru anything...on the Earth-Realm. Infact, Yamato cuts thru dementions. The BoO may be more powerful, but Sparda's Sword gives it a run for it's money. Also, replay the game, he never stabbed anyone.
3. All I said it didn't kill him. If it was that powerful, how come Zeus didn't kill them instead of imprisioning them? Artemis(?) killed a Titan with her blade. Prove he could do it. Oh, that's right, you can't. Why didn't he do it to Zeus? Or better yet, all of the Romans (whoever was attacking Sparta). I never said any sword was stronger.
4. Yeah. And? A pillar is much slower and he couldn't react, it was a lighting storm, he didn't react to anything, but just resisted from getting fried, nonething more. Him blocking all of his attacks are no-limit fallacy. I could easily say Dante could easily block all of his attacks with RoyalGuard, using his energy against him, killing him. Kratos isn't even as fast as lighting. Slower than lighting? Which is why he ran at the speed of sound. I know you didn't say this but: Everything can't be PIS just because you make it out to be. NOTE: Dante might have been hitting at lighting speed (atleast his hits couldn't be seen..at the most, saying he can't react to lighting is fvcking stupid).
5. So if I was to be pushing 100 tons of blocks onto you, and i'm not trying, it's hard? He wasn't even trying, and it took all of his strength. This as PIS as well.
6. No, I wasn't. All I said was little swords, stop putting words into my mouth.
7. How can't you?
8. Once again, putting words in my mouth. I didn't. If I wanted to say it was weak, I would have. The Soul Reaver is a "little sword" does that make it weak? Dante could easily get Yamato, swing it, and cut Kratos' head off. Kratos' Fleece can be seperated from him.
9. I know he did. I said "he would have." Pay attention. Dante got punched by Savior's hand, and shook it off.
I like GoW as well. Hell, I even agree that is better. BUT, GoW is nonething but a senseless button masher, whereas DMC is a game that takes skill (to master). Near perfect? No, no game is perfect. Better storyline? DMC1>GoWII story line. The plot of GoW focused on The Fates too much. Weapons? What a ****ing joke? Pandora's Box is better than all of the GoW's weapons (not saying in power) combined. Where do you think GoW gets their ideas from? DMC that is. What do you think it is based on? DMC that is. GoW doesn't even have alot of "weapons" to begin with. What, Zeus' Gaunlet, Artemis Blade, Barbarian Hammer, Blades of Chaos, Sword of Destiny, and The BoO. Also, Kratos is nonething but a mortal (who was wrapped around the God's finger), Dante is a High-Demonic God (or High level of demons or something).