Zoom and Wally vs Surfer and Thor

Originally posted by Galan007

I'm thinking Surfer's concentration might be hindered by dozens [or so] Supermanny punches to the face, before he could even react.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if he did go intangible, Zoom can vibrate on different frequencies [as can Flash]. That might be a solution to intangibility.

Zoom's "power" is pretty much useless when Surfer has both limited precognition (which I must admit I don't ever recall him using) and the ability to travel in time.

even though Zoom is "ahead of the current time frame", Surfer can still get ahead of him or even prevent him from reaching the present by going into the past.

Surfer still solos these two.

Originally posted by Priest
Anyways I have yet to see Surfer get hammered by some one enough to break his concentration.

Team 1 still gets my vote.

Originally posted by janus77
Zoom's "power" is pretty much useless when Surfer has both limited precognition (which I must admit I don't ever recall him using) and the ability to travel in time.

even though Zoom is "ahead of the current time frame", Surfer can still get ahead of him or even prevent him from reaching the present by going into the past.

Surfer still solos these two.

Originally posted by Galan007
Right... Variables like that would play a factor, concerning how many times Zoom struck an opponent before they reacted. However, it's also within Zoom's ability to adjust how far ahead of the current timeline he exists [ie. making himself faster if need be]. That's why even after Wally amped himself with the combined speed of Bart/Jay, he could still hardly even see Zoom, let alone react fast enough to hit him.

Well since Zoom certainly does have a limit to the amount of hits he can get in before surfer can react then id think that surfer would still be able to go intangible or fly up after taking the initial onslaught( which imo he would). If he succeds in that the match is pretty much over.

Another thing is wouldnt distance play a part in the amount of hits Zoom can get on surfer? I mean the distance which they start from each other. Though not much it would still give surfer some extra time to react.

The rules say characters start .5km from each other unless another distance is specified in the OP. So no, the distance wouldn't matter much at all here.

Also, people seem to be under the impression that these guys are powerless against airborne opponents. With things like 'Zoom-blasts' [which are fast enough to hit Flash] that is certainly not the case.

Zoom and wally stomp.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Team 1 still gets my vote.

Me too. Flash can go intangible as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
The rules say characters start .5km from each other unless another distance is specified in the OP. So no, the distance wouldn't matter much at all here.

Also, people seem to be under the impression that these guys are powerless against airborne opponents. With things like 'Zoom-blasts' [which are fast enough to hit Flash] that is certainly not the case.

Ok from what i understand of zooms powers, he isnt really moving fast but at normal speed just ahead in the timeline. the way i figure it the, in time it would take Zoom to cross that distance he could have landed a few more blows. Now as i said it woudnt really be much but taking a few less blows can only be to surfers advantage. As for the flying thing, while zooms blasts might help if surfer decided to stay up there and fight from the air, it most likely will not be that useful here because once airborne surfer is simply going to release an omnidirectional blast destroying the planet and evrything on it.

Anyways in this fight if anyone is going to win it for team 1 it will be zoom and if anyone if going to win it for team 2 it will be surfer.

U overestimate SS's powers, Zoom could easily just blitz SS since he does have the combat speed advantage so i don't know what SS will be able to realistically..Thor is just another brick who is blitz pucned into a KO.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
U overestimate SS's powers, Zoom could easily just blitz SS since he does have the combat speed advantage so i don't know what SS will be able to realistically..Thor is just another brick who is blitz pucned into a KO.

Thor has plenty of superspeed, just not enough to keep up with Wally and Zoom. Doesn't make him a brick, that comment makes you an idiot btw, it just means that he's slower than Wally and Zoom.

Thankfully that clown is on ignore.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Thor has plenty of superspeed, just not enough to keep up with Wally and Zoom. Doesn't make him a brick, that comment makes you an idiot btw, it just means that he's slower than Wally and Zoom.

If u mean in regards to travelling, sure Thor has superspeed but in terms of combat...he is a brick.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
If u mean in regards to travelling, sure Thor has superspeed but in terms of combat...he is a brick.

No, he has displayed superspeed on several occasions.

Not in combat, huge difference.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Not in combat, huge difference.

No, he has displayed superspeed in combat.

I frankly doubt you've read any Thor comics at all. As far as you're concerned Hercules probably doesn't have super speed either haermm

Originally posted by ultimatethor
once airborne surfer is simply going to release an omnidirectional blast destroying the planet and evrything on it.

lol this can keep going back and fourth with stupid crap like that. So I'd rather just agree to disagree.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Anyways in this fight if anyone is going to win it for team 1 it will be zoom and if anyone if going to win it for team 2 it will be surfer.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
No, he has displayed superspeed in combat.

I frankly doubt you've read any Thor comics at all. As far as you're concerned Hercules probably doesn't have super speed either haermm

Thor gets smashed quickly here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if that was in character for Surfer, and assuming he weathered Zoom's initial blitz - Zoom could travel to another point in time [as he's done before] long enough to let the blast pass by, then continue the blitz.

lol this can keep going back and fourth with stupid crap like that. So I'd rather just agree to disagree.

I can agree with that for the most part.

Agree to disagree it is.