Zoom and Wally vs Surfer and Thor

Started by Stoic14 pages

Team 2 has far more diversity than Team 1.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Would Zoom dodge or vibrate to avoid getting punch?

Because, Zoom doesn't just stand around and awaits. So you ponder...how fast will SS attack will be AND how will Zoom react?

Flash running full-bore at Zoom [from behind] in an effort to tag him:

Zom is cool and all but people overestimate his abilities. he does not have speed powers (I.E. the speed force) therefor he cannot do some of the things suggested. his power is to slow time up around himself. so that everything is moving in slow motion to him.

and even if they did hit Thor or Silver Surfer a couple thousand times, nothing would happen . SS flies through stars on the regular and Thor has some insane durability feats as well. I'm just saying when you put in team 2's entire powerset I cannot see in all honesty how team 1 could win.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Zom is cool and all but people overestimate his abilities. he does not have speed powers (I.E. the speed force) therefor he cannot do some of the things suggested. his power is to slow time up around himself. so that everything is moving in slow motion to him.

and even if they did hit Thor or Silver Surfer a couple thousand times, nothing would happen . SS flies through stars on the regular and Thor has some insane durability feats as well. I'm just saying when you put in team 2's entire powerset I cannot see in all honesty how team 1 could win.


Zoom can steal speed as well. I wonder what Thor will do when Wally send him to the speed force

Originally posted by complexbrother
Zom is cool and all but people overestimate his abilities. he does not have speed powers (I.E. the speed force) therefor he cannot do some of the things suggested. his power is to slow time up around himself. so that everything is moving in slow motion to him.

and even if they did hit Thor or Silver Surfer a couple thousand times, nothing would happen . SS flies through stars on the regular and Thor has some insane durability feats as well. I'm just saying when you put in team 2's entire powerset I cannot see in all honesty how team 1 could win.

This entire post = a blatant ignorance of Zoom's abilities.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Zom is cool and all but people overestimate his abilities. he does not have speed powers (I.E. the speed force) therefor he cannot do some of the things suggested. his power is to slow time up around himself. so that everything is moving in slow motion to him.

and even if they did hit Thor or Silver Surfer a couple thousand times, nothing would happen . SS flies through stars on the regular and Thor has some insane durability feats as well. I'm just saying when you put in team 2's entire powerset I cannot see in all honesty how team 1 could win.

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Originally posted by Galan007
This entire post = a blatant ignorance of Zoom's abilities.
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Originally posted by complexbrother
Zom is cool and all but people overestimate his abilities. he does not have speed powers (I.E. the speed force) therefor he cannot do some of the things suggested. his power is to slow time up around himself. so that everything is moving in slow motion to him.

and even if they did hit Thor or Silver Surfer a couple thousand times, nothing would happen . SS flies through stars on the regular and Thor has some insane durability feats as well. I'm just saying when you put in team 2's entire powerset I cannot see in all honesty how team 1 could win.

A character that hits harder than Superman isn't going to hurt Thor or Norrin?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
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Team one

Galan, do you know of a time besides the Bart/Zoom fight where Zoom vibrated his body?

I know in Flash volume two, Flash hits him while he's holding Jay because he realizes Jay can vibrate and says Zoom cannot.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Galan, do you know of a time besides the Bart/Zoom fight where Zoom vibrated his body?

I know in Flash volume two, Flash hits him while he's holding Jay because he realizes Jay can vibrate and says Zoom cannot.

That's all I can recall of him doing so. It seems that over the years Zoom has learned to control his abilities for a wider range of effects. Travelling into the past is another example - because if you remember, during Flash v2 Jay said Zoom could only move forward in time, not backward.

Zoom moved so far forward in time he went backwards. 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
Zoom moved so far forward in time he went backwards. 🙂
1.21 gigawatts!! looney

Originally posted by Galan007
That's all I can recall of him doing so.

Because IMO, if that's all the evidence there is for that particular ability, then he really shouldn't be assumed to possess that ability. We know Bart can vibrate through objects. So when he and Zoom are punching and both moving so quickly, of course Bart might be vibrating and go through Zoom. Doesn't necessarily mean that Zoom was also vibrating.

Originally posted by Galan007
It seems that over the years Zoom has learned to control his abilities for a wider range of effects. Travelling into the past is another example - because if you remember, during Flash v2 Jay said Zoom could only move forward in time, not backward.

True. But I think that was Jay's conjecture at Zoom's abilities. Nothing set in stone.

Still, the 410 AD Rome was pretty cool, lol.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Because IMO, if that's all the evidence there is for that particular ability, then he really shouldn't be assumed to possess that ability. We know Bart can vibrate through objects. So when he and Zoom are punching and both moving so quickly, of course Bart might be vibrating and go through Zoom. Doesn't necessarily mean that Zoom was also vibrating.
Not only does Bart say they were vibrating through each other, but we can also see them both passing through solid matter:

So, molecular vibration [or whatever Zoom is using there] is a viable tactic he can use in battle.

I feel like an ass. I have the comic. And I didn't notice Zoom's leg inside the building before now.

Galan photoshopped that scan.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I feel like an ass. I have the comic. And I didn't notice Zoom's leg inside the building before now.
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Originally posted by Mindset
Galan photoshopped that scan.
Shhh. crackers

Wally's slow as hell now, I don't think Zoom can take out BOTH Surfer and Thor on his own.

I'm saying this because I hope Bran will give my post a thumbs up as well.

Thor can't fight at their Speed. However, I am 100% sure that SS can