Originally posted by carver9
To me this is the best post on the forum and if you want more examples of superman blitz punches compared to his more slower and harder punches look at his fight with equus. His blitz punches did minimum damage but when he went for haymaker it ripped him up.
No prove supporting this however, still heavy speculation.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes has the benefit of incredible MA talent,awesome striking power,fantastic durability and of course super speed. Very few characters can compete competently agaisnt supes h2h, in this paritcular gauntlet he clears it.
Galen put down the pipe dude your on drugs. Thanos wrecks superman everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Marvel can beat him and has beaten him. So, what makes you so sure supes wins when he's already lost. Plus the magic. BA again supes has never beaten Adam and yet again adam is ruthless and has magic. Kurse is a joke and superman would be wreck. The Hulks I really can't say he could beat them. I give him wins over MM, WW, Marvel (sometimes), BA (Sometimes) and the hulk. He losses badly to Thanos or Kurse and thus stops there evertime.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galen put down the pipe dude your on drugs. Thanos wrecks superman everyday of the week and twice on sunday. Marvel can beat him and has beaten him. So, what makes you so sure supes wins when he's already lost. Plus the magic. BA again supes has never beaten Adam and yet again adam is ruthless and has magic. Kurse is a joke and superman would be wreck. The Hulks I really can't say he could beat them. I give him wins over MM, WW, Marvel (sometimes), BA (Sometimes) and the hulk. He losses badly to Thanos or Kurse and thus stops there evertime.
So basically you're just ignoring supes stats/feats and going with who you prefer regardless of whatever anyone says. k gotcha.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
So basically you're just ignoring supes stats/feats and going with who you prefer regardless of whatever anyone says. k gotcha.
No that's not what i'm doing.
Has Supes put down BA. Nope he hasn't. Shoot you know nothing about BA and thought he was from Marvel lol
Has Supes lost to Captain Marvel before a number of times? He's beaten him as well but I'm asking if he's lost. You claim this is a easy victory and he clears it everytime yet he's already lost to Marvel right?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No that's not what i'm doing.Has Supes put down BA. Nope he hasn't. Shoot you no nothing about BA and thought he was from Marvel lol
Has Supes lost to Captain Marvel before a number of times? He's beaten him as well but I'm asking if he's lost. You claim this is a easy victory and he clears it everytime yet he's already lost to Marvel right?
I've also yet to see any credible explanation as to how he wins against onslaught.
Originally posted by Badabing
Enyalus, your trollish, one-sided, out of context, reported posts end now. You're either relying on a single scan to derive your opinions or just extremely biased. I don't know what comics you've read but 90% of what you post goes against what was written and shown. Warnings will be coming swiftly if this doesn't change. You'd be wise not to show up in the reports for a long while.
Okay, I'm more awake and alert now. As far as my 'one-sided' posts go, it isn't only me. As I recall, the only people saying Superman clears this are Galen and TP. The majority of the posters here agree that Superman goes down. I've been elaborating on why. I know I've been rude...but dealing with Galen will do that to a person. Point out what you find 'out of context' and I'll happily back it up with something else.
TP: I wish you'd use the quote function. Here goes:
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Disputed by his hundreds of superior speed feats. I concede that she may appear faster due to skill, but not in terms of pure speed. Besides, let's see Wondy rebuild a city in 2 panels.
I was referring to combat speed (the only relevant kind of speed in this thread), not 'pure speed.' And Batman agreed with Diana that she was faster in that department than Superman. Let's see him block 1500 bullet-like objects per second.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I do not dispute his high end durability, just that Superman has better feats.
This doesn't even make sense. You argued that CM didn't have near enough durability to hang with Supes. I showed this was false by bringing up evidence related to DOV. Now you're backpeddling and saying you meant via feats. A punch is a punch. Taking punches from Spectre >> taking punches from Superman.
Not to mention that, as others have brought up - CM's already beat Superman before, and been depicted as his equal in a lot of instances.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* You claim Huc has infinite strength, no arguements. But nobody believes it for Superman despite a wealth of evidence.
I didn't claim Hulk had infinite strength. I mean, technically he does, but has never reached that level. That argument is reserved for Hulk fanboys, not me. My claim was that War Hulk is stronger than Superman, which should be true. And please don't go, "wut r hucs str feats hm?" Look at how Superman fares against other elite bricks. Konvikt is a prime example. Konvikt was clearly stronger than Superman. Did he have any strength feats? Nope. Ditto for other nameable bricks I won't mention.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
missed the point, eh? HOW DOES HE HIT HIM? Thor is a slug. Superman is not.
I already brought up how he'd hit him. Kurse can't fly. That means Superman is limited to staying on the ground. While Superman is running around him hitting him needlessly (as it wouldn't even harm Kurse), Kurse stomps on the ground, creates a shockwave, gets Supes off-balance, and beats his ass. I've already said this. You persist in not getting it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. Despite my own personal attempts to prove it, along with others, there is no source protection for Superman. srug2. Find someone who can do better. 😐 No, seriously. Doomsday is a monster. The fact that he did as well as he did is a credit. And you seem to think very little of DD&Shaggy Man. Both of whom would mow down this gauntlet quite easily.
3. DUDE, he got ganked by an unlimited supply of Gogs. Give the man his due. 😒 He was having a heart attack and being poisoned by K-nite, and he still did pretty well in a hopeless fight.
4. Wrong instance. This was when he got hit by the Aegis, not Imperiex. Nice try. 😉
1. Superman is essential to the DCU. He's protected from being erased from existence by the Source.
2. Sooo, Doomsday is a monster, but not Kurse or War Hulk or Thanos, etc? Why? Because Doomsday killed Superman? DD would get owned in this gauntlet. Eiling would definitely have a shot, though, I'll grant you that.
4. Superman got hit by the Entropy Aegis? The only one who wore the Entropy Aegis was John. Give me an issue number so I can check out what you're referring to. I have OWAW.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Feats? Because Thanos is called a slug here for a reason.
Yes. Because of ignorance on a few DC-biased posters.
Feats from those include dodging superspeed punches and countering accordingly, superspeed punches himself. Leaving six after images of his hands while he blasts members of Death's elite guard. And punching at superspeed again (shown by his arm being blurred and the whole, air motion lines behind it.)
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Scans? And Flash can screw with physics in a way that Surfer can't, so his blitzes are much more dangerous.
No. Scans are in both the Silver Surfer respect thread and the Thanos respect thread. And Galan posted them in a different vs. thread a while back (though I know you weren't here for it.) Happens in SS #56 and Infinity Gauntlet #4. Surfer bullrushes Thanos from over a lightyear away while Thanos is in mid-punch.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
A forcefield is not shrugging it off. and He went flying from it once.
Sure. Everyone has low-showings. Even Thanos. No one is denying that. But like Galen said, we go by high showings. Peak performance.
That's what I'm talking about. And that's Thanos prior to his first death and any upgrades. In Marvel Two-In-One Annual, he tanks a punch from Thing while standing then, and then blows he and Spiderman with just his aura/power/whatever. But hey - Thing is Thing. And I don't bring silly things like that up.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I read the fight, he was standing, but let's not exagerate. It's obvious Odin had him dead to rights.
He walked through a Gungir-empowered Odin blast while being empowered by Asgard. Later on, he's blown backwards. I never said he was going to win. I didn't take anything out of context.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Celestial level strength? hysterical2 That's hilarious. When Hulk starts throwing planets, let me know. Onslaught wanted his shell broken. 2nd, Onslaught MINUS HIS PSI-POWERS, aka the bulk of his abilities, according to the OP, is an unknown, and almost assuredly nowhere near Superman's match.
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I was referring to Mindless Hulk. I didn't even mention Onslaught.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Just stop. Doomsday is in a whole other league. Mindless Hulk cannot ressurect from death.
Irrelevant in this match.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He cannot adapt to energy weapons.
Also irrelevant in this match.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He cannot create energy canceling attacks, or adapt to energies on the fly.
Also irrelevant in this match, and never happened.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He cannot blitz people like Darkseid, Superman, etc. Not to mention, once again, SPEED KILLS.
H/P DD didn't blitz anyone. Certainly not DS or Superman. Read the comic again.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Game, set, and match, troll. 😎
I apologize for before, me being rude and all.
Originally posted by Enyalusgood post
Okay, I'm more awake and alert now. As far as my 'one-sided' posts go, it isn't only me. As I recall, the only people saying Superman clears this are Galen and TP. The majority of the posters here agree that Superman goes down. I've been elaborating on why. I know I've been rude...but dealing with Galen will do that to a person. Point out what you find 'out of context' and I'll happily back it up with something else.TP: I wish you'd use the quote function. Here goes:
I was referring to combat speed (the only relevant kind of speed in this thread), not 'pure speed.' And Batman agreed with Diana that she was faster in that department than Superman. Let's see him block 1500 bullet-like objects per second.
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This doesn't even make sense. You argued that CM didn't have near enough durability to hang with Supes. I showed this was false by bringing up evidence related to DOV. Now you're backpeddling and saying you meant via feats. A punch is a punch. Taking punches from Spectre >> taking punches from Superman.
Not to mention that, as others have brought up - CM's already beat Superman before, and been depicted as his equal in a lot of instances.
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I didn't claim Hulk had infinite strength. I mean, technically he does, but has never reached that level. That argument is reserved for Hulk fanboys, not me. My claim was that War Hulk is stronger than Superman, which should be true. And please don't go, "wut r hucs str feats hm?" Look at how Superman fares against other elite bricks. Konvikt is a prime example. Konvikt was clearly stronger than Superman. Did he have any strength feats? Nope. Ditto for other nameable bricks I won't mention.
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I already brought up how he'd hit him. Kurse can't fly. That means Superman is limited to staying on the ground. While Superman is running around him hitting him needlessly (as it wouldn't even harm Kurse), Kurse stomps on the ground, creates a shockwave, gets Supes off-balance, and beats his ass. I've already said this. You persist in not getting it.
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1. Superman is essential to the DCU. He's protected from being erased from existence by the Source.
2. Sooo, Doomsday is a monster, but not Kurse or War Hulk or Thanos, etc? Why? Because Doomsday killed Superman? DD would get owned in this gauntlet. Eiling would definitely have a shot, though, I'll grant you that.
4. Superman got hit by the Entropy Aegis? The only one who wore the Entropy Aegis was John. Give me an issue number so I can check out what you're referring to. I have OWAW.[/b]
Yes. Because of ignorance on a few DC-biased posters.
Feats from those include dodging superspeed punches and countering accordingly, superspeed punches himself. Leaving six after images of his hands while he blasts members of Death's elite guard. And punching at superspeed again (shown by his arm being blurred and the whole, air motion lines behind it.)
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No. Scans are in both the Silver Surfer respect thread and the Thanos respect thread. And Galan posted them in a different vs. thread a while back (though I know you weren't here for it.) Happens in SS #56 and Infinity Gauntlet #4. Surfer bullrushes Thanos from over a lightyear away while Thanos is in mid-punch.
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Sure. Everyone has low-showings. Even Thanos. No one is denying that. But like Galen said, we go by high showings. Peak performance.
That's what I'm talking about. And that's Thanos prior to his first death and any upgrades. In Marvel Two-In-One Annual, he tanks a punch from Thing while standing then, and then blows he and Spiderman with just his aura/power/whatever. But hey - Thing is Thing. And I don't bring silly things like that up.
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He walked through a Gungir-empowered Odin blast while being empowered by Asgard. Later on, he's blown backwards. I never said he was going to win. I didn't take anything out of context.
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I was referring to Mindless Hulk. I didn't even mention Onslaught.
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Irrelevant in this match.
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Also irrelevant in this match.
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Also irrelevant in this match, and never happened.
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H/P DD didn't blitz anyone. Certainly not DS or Superman. Read the comic again.
I apologize for before, me being rude and all. [/B]
I think Supes stops at 5.
I would like to point out one thing about Supes' one day of rest. Superman can be fully healed and rested much quicker than that as long as he gets normal sun. So he would be 100% at each new battle.
Even so, I just can't see him "slugfest-ing" a guy who is 4x stronger than Thor. He usually has to "think" his way passed opponents like this. But, that's not the name of the game here...
Also, I question the hulks' placement on this list.
Supes can clear this, maybe Mindless Hulk stops him in this scenario. He can fully heal in less than a day.
His biggest problems will be BA because he can just about match him on speed and is ruthless, but Supes stats are above BA's simple as that.
He'll have problems with Kurse this fight could go like his fight with DOS Doomsday except of course Kurse isn't nearly as quick as DD. But if he survives Kurse he is going to be stopping everyone below. None of those guys have the speed and he can certainly rip onslaughts armor.
Wonder Woman having superior combat speed is f*ckin hilarious especially considering the fact that he's done stuff like this.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7051/superman183rx.jpg
Ridiculous. Pure and simple.
Originally posted by batdude123
Wonder Woman having superior combat speed is f*ckin hilarious especially considering the fact that he's done stuff like this.http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7051/superman183rx.jpg
Ridiculous. Pure and simple.
Someone said that? In one comic he was blocking her every sword strike in another JLA comic (keep forgetting the issue) he beat her down and she admitted she couldn't hope to beat him.
I suppose she can do this, too?
Originally posted by Allankles
Supes can clear this, maybe Mindless Hulk stops him in this scenario. He can fully heal in less than a day.His biggest problems will be BA because he can just about match him on speed and is ruthless, but Supes stats are above BA's simple as that.
He'll have problems with Kurse this fight could go like his fight with DOS Doomsday except of course Kurse isn't nearly as quick as DD. But if he survives Kurse he is going to be stopping everyone below. None of those guys have the speed and he can certainly rip onslaughts armor.
Tell me how exactly Supes beats Thanos lol. You forgot to mention him so I'm assuming your saying he beats thanos easily lol
Originally posted by The Great Galen
You have been warned more then once for you're style of posting, and I've actually provided a very reasonable explanations as to why supes clears this gauntlet quite handily...and unlike a lot of poster I don't have selective "Arguments".
No, I've got your "arguments." It's: "superior speed, MA, striking ability, and strength."
You use it in every single thread. Hard for me to not get it.
Originally posted by batdude123
I suppose she can do this, too?
I could easily post things that wonder woman has done with her speed that I dont think that superman could do.
Originally posted by Enyalus
No, I've got your "arguments." It's: "superior speed, MA, striking ability, and strength."You use it in every single thread. Hard for me to not get it.
Right, im using supes stats and how he applies these abilites in a fight....silly me for going by on-panel feats to determine how a character will fight.
