Elektra vs Blade

Started by Phantom Zone77 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For any curious bystanders who may be reading this thread, the examples of me "down playing" Blade's feats so far have been A) me saying that knocking Sage back three fight with a dagger isn't a class 20 feat, and B) me saying kicking Spider-man isn't a class 20 feat...

Clearly, my bias knows no bounds! dur

No its not, wrong again. Theres a whole long list. There you go again.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No its not, wrong again.

Oh forgive me, I also said a sparing match with a chick he was about to makeout with isn't an accurate representation of his skill. 😱

ZOMG super bias???

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh forgive me, I also said a sparing match with a chick he was about to makeout with isn't an accurate representation of his skill. 😱

ZOMG super bias???

Which could apply to Elektra vs DD which is an ergument jinzin has been using and I don't see you saying shit about it.

Yeah and theres more.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Which could apply to Elektra vs DD which is an ergument jinzin has been using and I don't see you saying shit about it.

Yeah and theres more.

Well for one, Elektra and DD don't spar and for two (that sounds strange), they don't end up on the verge of making out when they throw down. Their fights are usually actual fights, and while there is certainly a degree of CIS evolved because of their history its not as great as you'd like it to be and I'm not sure who it affects more.

MORE YOU SAY??? dur

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

Two days ago, you guys practically admitted to never owning/reading a comic with Elektra in it, now you know her well enough to dictate that her speed feats are actually ninja tricks when it's never stated to be the case.

Typical. 🙄

I'm going to have to call you out on that. When did I say that?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Well for one, Elektra and DD don't spar and for two (that sounds strange), they don't end up on the verge of making out when they throw down. Their fights are usually actual fights, and while there is certainly a degree of CIS evolved because of their history its not as great as you'd like it to be and I'm not sure who it affects more.

Thats true but there are still cirumstance they are both not going all out and they both have feeling for each other. Its not a million miles away from the Blade example

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

MORE YOU SAY???

YES! I and I aint goin through them with you and the fact of the matter is were probably going through this argument right now cos you feel you have to prove a point.

Every time somebody has a blade feat you got something to say...thats lots of examples. You think Elektra wins I dont really give shit, I just hate how every time somebody has a Blade feat you get your microscope out and analyse the feat down to the atomic level so you can find something wrong with it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I just hate how every time somebody has a Blade feat you get your microscope out and analyse the feat down to the atomic level so you can find something wrong with it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats true but there are still cirumstance they are both not going all out and they both have feeling for each other. Its not a million miles away from the Blade example

Which is why I haven't used those fights in my argument.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
YES! I and I aint goin through them with you and the fact of the matter is were probably going through this argument right now cos you feel you have to prove a point.

Every time somebody has a blade feat you got something to say...thats lots of examples. You think Elektra wins I dont really give shit, I just hate how every time somebody has a Blade feat you get your microscope out and analyse the feat down to the atomic level so you can find something wrong with it.

Well of course I say something. I post an example of Elektra ripping a guys hand off with her sai and propelling it through his chest, and then trackz post and example of Blade through a dagger at Sage and knocking him back three feat... and he goes on record saying that it is superior feat. Its not a matter of me down playing Blade its a matter of trackz blowing ever single thing Blade does WAY out of proportion, and snoop going along with it.

The fact of the matter is the majority posters think Blade wins. Minus the usual Blade haters.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Which is why I haven't used those fights in my argument.

You stated that DD has beaten Elektra you were talking about their fights in general. 😐

Jinzin is also using it, you didn't say anything about it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Well of course I say something. I post an example of Elektra ripping a guys hand off with her sai, and then tracks post and example of Blade through a dagger at Sage and knocking him back three feat... and he goes on record saying that it is superior feat.

Wait, wait, wait Elektra rips an ordinary guys hand off with a sai and you think thats superior to Blade throwing a vamp that just took down Spiderman three feat with a stake....am I getting this right?

Or are you talking about the guy with kevlar?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Its not a matter of me down playing Blade its a matter of trackz blowing ever single thing Blade does WAY out of proportion, and snoop going along with it.

I don't always agree with everything they say but if you didnt keep downplaying their feats they would probably be more reasonable and they probably don't even have a problem with you thinking Elektra wins but its a complete one-sided debate with no open-mindness to the Blade side.

Lets take an example of one discussion you had with Trackz. Trackz says Blade wasnt wearing Kevlar because he said "You think im wearing kevlar?" It could damn well be argued that Blade meant that he wasnt wearing any... you ever heard somebody say "You think im joking?" ie im not joking ie you think im wearing kevlar = im not wearing kevlar.

Did you leave it at that? Oh no... then you start whining on about how Blade usually wears kevlar despite the fact that we could deduce from the statement he wasn't wearing any. You know characters dont always do the same thing all the time.
🙄

I don't have a problem with swank or jizzin saying Elektra wins. I just don't know why they downplay every single feat Blade has.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't have a problem with swank or jizzin saying Elektra wins. I just don't know why they downplay every single feat Blade has.

Exactly.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The fact of the matter is the majority posters think Blade wins. Minus the usual Blade haters.

Some asshat who knows next to nothing about either characters decides that Blade wins because he's a vampire? I'm sorry but as a comic collector that ****ing insulting. You wouldn't need to read a single issue with either character to come to that conclusion. Taking the stance that Blade is superior based purely on the fact that he is a vampire, devalues the meaning of the actual books. What Elektra does, doesn't matter because Blade is a vampire, and further more what Blade does doesn't matter because he is a vampire? I don't understand as a comicbook fan how you can be comfortable with that stance? Its bullshit. It's and ass backwards stance and it pisses me off. We decided who is superior based on a rational comparison of feats and I'm more than confident that I've done my job to show that Elektra is super in spite of the fact that Blade is a vampire. I'm not going to give Blade to benefit of the doubt and say everything he does is better because he's a vampire, I just can't do it. My stance is that just that feats are the most important thing to compare in a debate, its that they are the only thing worth comparing.

You know how sometimes someone will show up in a Spider-man thread and say something like "Spider-man is 10 times faster that Captain America, he wouldn't even get hit once!" Someone who's decided that Spider-man is 10x faster because he was labeled superhuman and has completely ignored the fact that Captain America has speed feats that are comparable with Spider-man across the board. Well this crazy Blade support is the same as that.

/End Rant

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

Two days ago, you guys practically admitted to never owning/reading a comic with Elektra in it, now you know her well enough to dictate that her speed feats are actually ninja tricks when it's never stated to be the case.

Typical. 🙄

two days ago Srank hadn't made his elektra respect thread, which is a nice thread. no one is down-playing elektra, she's a great character. However many of her feats are her ninja tricks coupled with her athleticism, this s how she can disappear in a room when she is surrounded, and reappear moments later.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Some asshat who knows next to nothing about either characters decides that Blade wins because he's a vampire?
So now you're insulting all people who think Blade wins?

Not cool. 😕

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So now you're insulting all people who think Blade wins?

Not cool. 😕

Anyone who says Blade wins because he is a vampire is an idoit. There needs to be more to it than that.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Anyone who says Blade wins because he is a vampire is an idoit. There needs to be more to it than that.
I'd be willing to bet more people read a comic in it with Elektra than Blade.

And that's still not cool to call somebody an idiot for expressin their view.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For any curious bystanders who may be reading this thread, the examples of me "down playing" Blade's feats so far have been A) me saying that knocking Sage back three fight with a dagger isn't a class 20 feat, and B) me saying kicking Spider-man isn't a class 20 feat...

Clearly, my bias knows no bounds! dur


no it goes much further, in the whole of this thread there has been:
-insinuating being a vampire gives an individual no type of amp what-so ever
-ignoring the narrator of blade's comics
-ignoring everything blade says and throwing it out as either trying to intimidate his opponent, or outright lies
-throwing out the writers opinion when he rights his own comic
-ignoring blades high-end feats for lower ones

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Anyone who says Blade wins because he is a vampire is an idoit. There needs to be more to it than that.
I don't believe anyone has stated blade wins solely because he is a vampire...

Originally posted by Trackz
two days ago Srank hadn't made his elektra respect thread, which is a nice thread. no one is down-playing elektra, she's a great character. However many of her feats are her ninja tricks coupled with her athleticism, this s how she can disappear in a room when she is surrounded, and reappear moments later.
And so you know enough to dictate what she does because you gandered at her respect thread, in spite of havin no support from stated on panel evidence..... yeah, that's logical.