Originally posted by Silent Guardian
oh plz the PPG are full of loads of PIS. They should be restricted from this forum. They are like ridiculous anime strong. And they fight dumb characters. A talking monkey who lives in a volcano. Jack would slice them into sashimi after some real heroes and villains run train on them
Yeah that's kinda the pont of their show.... 😕
Thank you for solidifying what I already said about your pathetic defections to PIS though.
Originally posted by jinzin
Which is why I wouldn' compare them.... and didn't.....What's laughable is stating that DD or Elektra would have virtually no chance of taking on an enraged Spiderman, when DD has already done it.... to the point of a knock out.
It's laughable as is comparing Spidey to Blade. All of which Team Blade has repeatidly done in this thread. And one of the reasons for which based on Blade shooting the kneecaps of a Spidey who wasn't in his right mind, and "barely" had his wits about him. Yeah... that's logical. 🙄
spidey and Blade can hang together, but Elektra and DD being up there is just PIS.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneNot really, unless you want to play ABC logic games... Once again the only reason any of this was brought up was because MB thinks my opinion of who wins this fight isn't based on rationale but racism instead. 😐
I see so assessing her skill level has nothing to do with wether shes better than Blade...got it.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneNo i didn't. I used it as an indicator of her skill level.
I didnt say that you based on that alone I said you used those as example as to why she could could beat Blade. I havent just used fights either just in that post.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneIncluding myself.
Nooooo again...he brought it up before anybody mentioned ABC logic.....
Originally posted by jinzin
Not really, unless you want to play ABC logic games... Once again the only reason any of this was brought up was because MB thinks my opinion of who wins this fight isn't based on rationale but racism instead. 😐No i didn't. I used it as an indicator of her skill level.
Including myself.
I didn't say she could beat Blade because she beats these guys.
Just that she's skilled because she beats these guys.... 😬
Forget it. Theres no point anymore now you're just lying.
Originally posted by Silent Hero
spidey and Blade can hang together, but Elektra and DD being up there is just PIS.
If you ignore the interactions all those characters have had with Spider-man, DD and Elektra still both have better feats of strength, speed and skill than Blade does. Why is it PIS for Elektra to hang with Spider-man... but not Blade?
Oh right... hes a vampire. 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱
Originally posted by Silent Guardian
oh plz the PPG are full of loads of PIS. They should be restricted from this forum. They are like ridiculous anime strong. And they fight dumb characters. A talking monkey who lives in a volcano. Jack would slice them into sashimi after some real heroes and villains run train on them
I'm curious, are you wrong about everything, or is it just the things you decide to be vocal about?
Originally posted by Silent Hero
feats, scans, data books, common sense, movies, public perception, popularity, etc. 😛
Feats: Elektra and DD > Blade
Scans: Elektra and DD > Blade
Handbooks: Irrelevant... and I'm not sure is power chart even has him as superior to either Elektra or DD.
Common Sense: Common sense dictates that havinh superior feats of strength / speed / skill would be more important that the arbitrary classification of vampire... but here we are
Movies: I'll give you that one... unfortunately not relevant in the slightest her
Public Perception: The misconception that vampires automaticly > humans dur
Popularity: ... Blade isn't more popular than DD. I'm not even sure he is more popular than Elektra.
Originally posted by jinzin
Like what?I've posed the question numerous times now as to just what Blade has done that makes him able to hang with Elektra and all I get is titles like "master swordsmen" and "vampires" thrown into the mix with no evidence that clearly demonstrates any sort of advantage or superiority in the least.
Blade doesn't hang around mainstream Marvel, true, because he's a one demensional character. But that isn't what keeps him from having impressive enough feats to be able to hang with someone in Elektra's league.
Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes are definitely nowhere near the mainstream MU and their feats are uber, and clearly demonstrated.Blade simply doesn't have them.
The fact that there are comparible factors between E and B due to mainstream Marvel is just icing on the cake.... Almost every high end feat Elektra has is better than Blades as far as I've been made aware.... And in spite of my distate for Blade I HAVE read and own a number of his books (mostly because I really got into the Blade movies and was hoping the comics would be more of the same only to be sorely dissapointed).There's reasons for WHY we keep bringing up DD and Wolverine.. it's because you guys seemed to be under the impression that she's nowhere near top tier level and that she hadn't fought anyone near that level in her life. Which is entirely innaccurate.
Remember Alf, it's YOU that wants to base what these characters are capible of based on who they fight, not us. You want to throw around the name game? Fine, but you need to realise a few things...Elektra's superior in that fasion still and names are going to be thrown back at you.
he's stated to be a master of every known weapon...thats not a title, thats a fact, add to the fact he's barely ever lost to any foe I'd say he has the skill to back it. What evidence does elektra have that proves she's more skilled? she trained as a ninja, that means shes a more skilled ninja, but blade never trained as a ninja he trained to be proficient in every known weapon and he has, prove the elektra is more skilled in weapon use.
You saying he's a one-dimensional characters stems from your general dislike of him...since he has many levels to his personality, like any character in the marvel universe, save your opinion on the character for yourself.
I would also like to add there hasn't been a single feat provided that outclasses blade, save for Elektra dagger carrying a mans hand through his body, (equalled by blade shattering a demon by sending knives through it) THat has been the only feat provided, and suddenly Elektra outclasses him in every way?
What elektra has shown his mastery of her ninja arts, vanishing right in front of people, changing her appearance, these are illusions coupled with her speed, not pure speed. It's not as if these would work on Blade, seeing as it has been stated Elektra body courses with a little bit of the mystical natures of the hand, meaning Blade would be able to sense her quite easily.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Feats: Elektra and DD > BladeScans: Elektra and DD > Blade
Handbooks: Irrelevant... and I'm not sure is power chart even has him as superior to either Elektra or DD.
Common Sense: Common sense dictates that havinh superior feats of strength / speed / skill would be more important that the arbitrary classification of vampire... but here we are
Movies: I'll give you that one... unfortunately not relevant in the slightest her
Public Perception: The misconception that vampires automaticly > humans dur
Popularity: ... Blade isn't more popular than DD. I'm not even sure he is more popular than Elektra.
No..as in the daredevil vs. blade thread it was concluded blade took the majority against daredevil
yes, blade is a lot more popular than elektra, your average person knows blade, no one I know has heard of elektra. If you want to judge this by sales, the only reason Blade most recent book didn't sell was because he art was horrendous and turned any potential fan off (this was the complaint it got from everyone even blade fans)
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneYou're not intelligent enough to see the difference?
Forget it. Theres no point anymore now you're just lying.
My rationale was called into question.
All i was trying to prove was that I had reason to back up my argument and not racism...
My argument:
I'm not racist
I have reason
Blahblahblah
Elektra's skilled enough to fight DD, Wolverine, etc
blahablahblah.
All that does is dictate Elketra's skilled enough to fight DD, Wolverine, etc...
Your argument?:
Blade fights vampires.
Blade fights Morbius (discarding performance)
Morbius fights Spiderman (discarding context)
therefore Blade is =? Spiderman
And therefore Blade is <=Elektra (Even though Spiderman and Elektra have never fought to begin with 😕...)
You're trying to use 6 degrees of seperation to prove superiority when 1 never actually connects with 6
I was bluntly stating what Elektra's skilled enough to handle.... 😐
How do you NOT get the difference?
Originally posted by Silent Hero
srank everything you post is wrong! PPG's are dumb, their more comedians than heroines.Blade is more popular, he has grossed more money than Elektra or DD.
Blade owns Elektra thread closed/:
The PG are like pre-crisis Kryptonians. They can travel ftl and that have colossal super strength and energy manipulation and they make up new powers on the fly like Golden Age Superman. You think they are dumb? That's your opinion. They'd still stomped Samurai Jack into the ground in a fraction of a second, and that isn't an opinion.
Yeah Blade is more popular than DD or Elektra... that must be why he hasn't been able to carry a solo title for more than 12 issues despite Marvel giving him more chances then virtually any character to do so? dur
Elektra owns Blade.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI'd say he is, but that's based on his movies...
Feats: Elektra and DD > BladeScans: Elektra and DD > Blade
Handbooks: Irrelevant... and I'm not sure is power chart even has him as superior to either Elektra or DD.
Common Sense: Common sense dictates that havinh superior feats of strength / speed / skill would be more important that the arbitrary classification of vampire... but here we are
Movies: I'll give you that one... unfortunately not relevant in the slightest her
Public Perception: The misconception that vampires automaticly > humans dur
Popularity: ... Blade isn't more popular than DD. I'm not even sure he is more popular than Elektra.
Originally posted by Trackz
No..as in the daredevil vs. blade thread it was concluded blade took the majority against daredevilyes, blade is a lot more popular than elektra, your average person knows blade, no one I know has heard of elektra. If you want to judge this by sales, the only reason Blade most recent book didn't sell was because he art was horrendous and turned any potential fan off (this was the complaint it got from everyone even blade fans)
Blade would beat DD because Blade is armed to the teeth and Matt wouldn't do what he needed to do to take Blade down. Elektra on the other hand would rip out Blade's heart and chop off his heat without batting an eye lid. DD has better feats of strength and speed then Blade, but he'd have to go farther than he would be willing to go to pull out a win. Not the same thing.
No one you know has heard of Elektra? Are your friends like you and only read comics with black characters, because that might be the reason.