Who's stronger: Captain America or Wolverine?

Started by rotiart16 pages

Also you state there is an issue that refers to the issue. So comic. Volume. And issue please. If someone else doesn't do it maybe after the holidays I'll check to see if I have said issue for the reference you refer to...

Oh btw. Quick thought.... SSS for cap makes him peak humanwhixh to some could look like doubling his strngth and what not... But if you have someone already at peak... I'd would do noghing..

Because this zap pill reference intrigues me.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No it was strength it was clearly evdident in the scene.

Of course it is, thats want you want to believe. Doesnt matter anyway because its not pure strength.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Too use the term berserk would be inaccurate as it implies an insurmountable blinding rage, which wasn't the case in that situation. Wolverine was under the affects of mind control was and was for all intensive purposes a mindless animal. He was just fallowing the orders he was given, he wasn't angry and there was no malace, he was fighting because he was told to and because it comes to him instictively.

Wolverine's berserker rage is something completely different than what was displayed on panel.

You cant prove that, you are just assuming that its not. It looked and smelt like a beserker rage and you have no proof that indicates otherwise.

Originally posted by Mindset
lol

what so funny? was it the evidence i used or something?

Originally posted by Priest
Cannon [/Thread]

i don't get it? cannon what?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In that game Ghost Rider couldn't lift a big box 😬

probably the box Ghost rider was trying to lift was still bigger than what wolverine lifted...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Too use the term berserk would be inaccurate as it implies an insurmountable blinding rage, which wasn't the case in that situation. Wolverine was under the affects of mind control was and was for all intensive purposes a mindless animal. He was just fallowing the orders he was given, he wasn't angry and there was no malace, he was fighting because he was told to and because it comes to him instictively.

Wolverine's berserker rage is something completely different than what was displayed on panel.

And I disagree since he didn't even talk in that state and when he was still mind controlled in another ish he did "talk" when he was imprisoned. So I disagree and Cap and the writer called it right.

Originally posted by wolverex84
probably the box Ghost rider was trying to lift was still bigger than what wolverine lifted...

No, it wasn't. And stop using MUA characters' stats, this ain't gonna work. 'Cause it's not canon and just plain stupid.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Wolverine retracted his claws to prevent mild superficial damage... coincidental the only type of damage Cap can dish out against Wolverine. 😄

Cap once KO'ed Logan with a blow to the back of his head while exclaiming, "heal this!" A wee bit more than 'superficial damage' there.

It's on the Cap respect thread.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Cap once KO'ed Logan with a blow to the back of his head while exclaiming, "heal this!" A wee bit more than 'superficial damage' there.

It's on the Cap respect thread.

Don't worry about him.

He doesn't even read comics, just respect threads.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Cap once KO'ed Logan with a blow to the back of his head while exclaiming, "heal this!" A wee bit more than 'superficial damage' there.

It's on the Cap respect thread.


Logan could barly stand and state before that that he never been so injured.............

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Exactly. Logan was in berserk as stated and shown on book. His refutations are his own which are not much.

capt speculated he was berserker.

pleases were to assume Logan was berserker, becuases capt said he was due to the fact he was attack him..........not becuases he ever seen berserker or has any knowledge of it. yea thta makes perfect senses 🙄

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Too use the term berserk would be inaccurate as it implies an insurmountable blinding rage,

If being berserk means that Wolverine is blinded by rage, how can he still continue to develop tactics and such? I recall Wolverine himself saying that he himself doesn't know his next move when he's bersek'd, true?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Don't worry about him.

He doesn't even read comics, just respect threads.

🙄

I made the respect thread.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄

I made the respect thread.

🙄

It was a jab at the person I quoted.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄

I made the respect thread.


🙄

Whose respect thread did you read to make it?

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Cap once KO'ed Logan with a blow to the back of his head while exclaiming, "heal this!" A wee bit more than 'superficial damage' there.

It's on the Cap respect thread.

Wolverine was already sent through the wringer by the X-Men Cap just topped him off. Anything would have koed Logan at that point.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
🙄

It was a jab at the person I quoted.

Got'cha

Originally posted by Daredevil1
And I disagree since he didn't even talk in that state and when he was still mind controlled in another ish he did "talk" when he was imprisoned. So I disagree and Cap and the writer called it right.

The berserker rage is an actual state of being for Wolverine, it is like a trance, it isn't a term you can just thtrow out at the drop of the hat. He wasn't berserker.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The berserker rage is an actual state of being for Wolverine, it is like a trance, it isn't a term you can just thtrow out at the drop of the hat. He wasn't berserker.

Prove it. Its as simple as that. I have the evidence. You need to counter it with counter evidence of that arch or of Logan stating he wasn't berserk. Or Cap saying he was wrong. Good luck.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Prove it. Its as simple as that. I have the evidence. You need to counter it with counter evidence of that arch or of Logan stating he wasn't berserk. Or Cap saying he was wrong. Good luck.

Your evidence is Cap thinking "Wolverine is considered unstoppable in Berserker Rage."? Well first, how would Cap even know if Wolverine is in a berserker rage? Like I said before the berserker rage is a trance, its a state of mind it isn't simply "Wolverine's angry oh noes!!!" Captain America isn't qualified to say whether or not Wolverine is in a berserker rage.

Your "evidence" is the equivalent of looking at a hamburger and deciding that the patty is venison with out tasting it... then asking me to prove otherwise. All I can do is use my extensive knowledge on what the berserker rage is to tell that what was displayed on panel wasn't one... and you can rely on your limited knowledge and choose to ignore me, but thats up to you.

edit sranks post is better

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Your evidence is Cap thinking "Wolverine is considered unstoppable in Berserker Rage."? Well first, how would Cap even know if Wolverine is in a berserker rage? Like I said before the berserker rage is a trance, its a state of mind it isn't simply "Wolverine's angry oh noes!!!" Captain America isn't qualified to say whether or not Wolverine is in a berserker rage.

Your "evidence" is the equivalent of looking at a hamburger and deciding that the patty is venison with out tasting it... then asking me to prove otherwise. All I can do is use my extensive knowledge on what the berserker rage is to tell that what was displayed on panel wasn't one... and you can rely on your limited knowledge and choose to ignore me, but thats up to you.

How do you know Cap isn't qualified to know about the berserker rage. That fact that he mentions it qualifies. You don't qualify, Cap/story does.

Bottom line is Cap/Story>>>then your opinion.