Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?

Lycanthrope, you are again spreading lies in the pursuit of your own agenda, which once more is looking racist, and again I warn you that a very close eye is being kept on you on this one. You've been banned once; the next one will be longer.

Do not make out things to be what they are not. Do not present the words of an enemy to Israel, like Fatah, as being some sort of truth, and do not imply that Sarah Waheed is some form of US spokesperson (she's a journalist).

And above all- do not pretend that Zionism is anything other than an extremist minority view that most Jews have barely heard of, let aline have anything to do with (as Sarah herself says, who you try to quote, misleadingly, so willingly).

You fluctuate wildly between Israel and Jews (via Zionism) being the source of all evil to it heing some sort of US master plan to attain oil. I've made this clear before- conspiracy talk goes in the conspiracy area.

If you can add nothing at all to the actual current context of the thread without your ravings about, basically, Jews, then you will be banned. Heed that.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
So the concept of establishing a Nation for the Western Allies of WWII's best interest is not reliable, or more to the point Viable? Does this really diminish my point? Its not that I wasn't aware of the establishing of OPEC. I was making a point about Oil Producing Countries.But, you got me. I was using something figurative to paint a picture and I should have been more astute and literal because I have Geopolitical scholars on here such as your self. I stand corrected. 😄

But Israel was not established to get oil. Israel was established to make up for the holocaust that the West could have stopped earlier, but made a military decision to not bomb the trains. It is more correct to say that Israel was establish because of guilt, then for oil.

Thanks for supporting my points, Ush.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I dont know where you learned your history but The Canaanites were there before Abraham came from Babylon to settle. Which i am sure everyone knows that Abraham is the Father of the Hebrews who fallowed Yah-weh.

You missed my point, I see. I will further explain it: Moabites and Israelites are, at least partly, descended from the Canaanites/are related to them (and each other) in many ways. So by saying that Israelites "stole the land", what you're basically saying is that sons and daughters aren't allowed to live on their father's land. A fact to which I disagree upon. I think it comes down to me not believing in the Biblical support of your case, and you, it seems, using religion as the predominant driving force.

Now Amelkites being a Roman Province? Rome was still in straw huts when the Amelkites were a people, we are talking 2,000 years prior to ROMA????

The Amelkites lived in lower to middle Arabia, not Israel/Canaan. That is what I meant by the Roman Province, as the Roman province of Arabia did not include Judea and I was just trying to give you a better example.

lycanthrope, you are incredibly biased. First of all, if that land can be called "the muslim heartland" its the tiniest chip of it and jerusalem is, has been, and always will be the native city of the jews. It does not belong to the muslims, in fact, whereas jewish scrolls date back to thousands of years BC, Muhammed invented Muslim in the 7th century AD.

The jews are not on the offensive, have not been on the offensive, and will probably never be on the offensive. they fight for their own survival.

Forgive me, people of the thread. I honestly thought we were allowed to state our opinions right or wrong. I didn't think that anyone would be ostracized for their opinions. I was wrong.I will stand down. In my search for knowledge it seems i have been miss informed. No ill will was intended. The info i put up, as far as I knew, was valid and i took it for face value as it was presented to me. I did not try to mislead or lie.I get caught up in debates but, the reality is...I pray for the souls who are being destroyed on both sides.

A Plea to the Moderators:
Please do not ban me. I have learned that one can not voice their opinion freely on certain threads. I had a misconception of what this Forum was but, I clearly understand what it is now. You will have no further troubles from me.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Lycanthrope, you are again spreading lies in the pursuit of your own agenda, which once more is looking racist, and again I warn you that a very close eye is being kept on you on this one. You've been banned once; the next one will be longer.

Do not make out things to be what they are not. Do not present the words of an enemy to Israel, like Fatah, as being some sort of truth, and do not imply that Sarah Waheed is some form of US spokesperson (she's a journalist).

And above all- do not pretend that Zionism is anything other than an extremist minority view that most Jews have barely heard of, let aline have anything to do with (as Sarah herself says, who you try to quote, misleadingly, so willingly).

You fluctuate wildly between Israel and Jews (via Zionism) being the source of all evil to it heing some sort of US master plan to attain oil. I've made this clear before- conspiracy talk goes in the conspiracy area.

If you can add nothing at all to the actual current context of the thread without your ravings about, basically, Jews, then you will be banned. Heed that.

hilarious....ROFLMAO.....

i learned my lesson earlier this week about using certain words regardless of how it is used or in conjuction with.. it will be removed and focused on solely on the word itself and not the supporting statement that showed how it is to be understood .... some ppl believe that they can moderate when no one has asked for help or have felt offended like the OP or fellow thread posters..

but sadly out our society has felt the need to censor and band ppl in debates with differetn views simply because we dont agree with it or feel it is wrong instead of correcting and supporting your point..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
hilarious....ROFLMAO.....

i learned my lesson earlier this week about using certain words regardless of how it is used or in conjuction with.. it will be removed and focused on solely on the word itself and not the supporting statement that showed how it is to be understood .... some ppl believe that they can moderate when no one has asked for help or have felt offended by the OP or fellow thread posters..

but sadly out our society has felt the need to censor and band ppl in debates with differetn views simply because we dont agree with it or feel it is wrong instead of correcting and supporting your point..

Your assessment of what is going on is incorrect. In the past the MODs stayed out of the debates until they devolved into screaming matches. I support the MODs taking a more proactive role. Please keep in mind you don't own this forum, and that you are a guest here.

Ok, I'm done... does anyone need a soup box? 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Your assessment of what is going on is incorrect. In the past the MODs stayed out of the debates until they devolved into screaming matches. I support the MODs taking a more proactive role. Please keep in mind you don't own this forum, and that you are a guest here.

Ok, I'm done... does anyone need a soup box? 😂

Well it would be nice to have a place that one could say what they feel without repercussion. That is FREEDOM but, is is not even to be found on the Internet. Oh and BTW who cares if it turns in to screaming matches, its just text. No one is harmed by it. Other than feelings argue 😆

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Well it would be nice to have a place that one could say what they feel without repercussion. That is FREEDOM but, is is not even to be found on the Internet. Oh and BTW who cares if it turns in to screaming matches, its just text. No one is harmed by it. Other than feelings argue 😆

It got to a point were no one could debate.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It got to a point were no one could debate.

It seems we are at that point now. When you have to consider your words it makes it very difficult to debate. Not all are Rhetorical scholars.
In reference to myself.

Yeah, I equaly find certain people to be opently spitting on Russia every chance they get, but it doesn't upset me.

At the end of the day, they are just avatars to me.

Chances are, what you do read in the mainstream news is propaganda. The idea that West does not have agenda and does not instigate propaganda is grossly naive.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
It seems we are at that point now. When you have to consider your words it makes it very difficult to debate. Not all are Rhetorical scholars.
In reference to myself.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yeah, I equaly find certain people to be opently spitting on Russia every chance they get, but it doesn't upset me.

At the end of the day, they are just avatars to me.

Chances are, what you do read in the mainstream news is propaganda. The idea that West does not have agenda and does not instigate propaganda is grossly naive.

I couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

Shakyamunison quoting Nietzsche? It must be the End Times. 😆

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Shakyamunison quoting Nietzsche? It must be the End Times. 😆

😆 😱

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yeah, I equaly find certain people to be opently spitting on Russia every chance they get, but it doesn't upset me.

At the end of the day, they are just avatars to me.

Chances are, what you do read in the mainstream news is propaganda. The idea that West does not have agenda and does not instigate propaganda is grossly naive.

Putin lover.

I'm a Poutine lover. ✅

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yeah, I equaly find certain people to be opently spitting on Russia every chance they get, but it doesn't upset me.

At the end of the day, they are just avatars to me.

Chances are, what you do read in the mainstream news is propaganda. The idea that West does not have agenda and does not instigate propaganda is grossly naive.

i agree