Originally posted by Robtard
WTF, Saddam-Iraq killed more Arabs (Kurds and the like) while in power than Israel ever has and Nato and the UN did nothing except make empty "stop or else" remarks.Israel has bent over backwards due to UN an U.S. pressure at times, given up land and what do they always get in return? Some militant-terrorist group like Hamas breaking the ceasefire, setting up sceanrios where Israel has to kill civilians in order to destroy the weapons being used against them and then playing the "we're the victims" game.
Are you forgetting that Israel is building walled city's in Palestinian territory and putting up road blocks on Palestinian highways?. And The Fight with Hamas was over the Hamas Capturing an(ONE) Israeli soldier who was standing guard on a new road block on Lebanese soil? One guard is captured and the Israelis send in Gunships and F-16 and Kill 2,500 people and seize Lebanese Banks and their currency. I dont think you are very informed on what is going on over there. Furthermore the U.N. has only said the "Stop or else" BS with Israel as well.
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Are you forgetting that Israel is building walled city's in Palestinian territory and putting up road blocks on Palestinian highways?. And The Fight with Hamas was over the Hamas Capturing an(ONE) Israeli soldier who was standing guard on a new road block on Lebanese soil? One guard is captured and the Israelis send in Gunships and F-16 and Kill 2,500 people and seize Lebanese Banks and their currency. I dont think you are very informed on what is going on over there. Furthermore the U.N. has only said the "Stop or else" BS with Israel as well.
I'd assume those walls are for protection, or are you not aware of the suicide bombings and whatnot that happens in Israel from Palestian dupes?
I guess those rockets fired into Israel are little more than confetti? The death toll is at around 350, so pulling out "2,500 deaths" out of your ass is just another anti-Israel rant.
The UN is useless, if that's what you're saying too, I agree.
Yeah, I'm obviously the uninformed one, that's why you're the one trying to pass nonsense as facts.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'd assume those walls are for protection, or are you not aware of the suicide bombings and whatnot that happens in Israel from Palestian dupes?I guess those rockets fired into Israel are little more than confetti? The death toll is at around 350, so pulling out "2,500 deaths" out of your ass is just another anti-Israel rant.
The UN is useless, if that's what you're saying too, I agree.
Yeah, I'm obviously the uninformed one, that's why you're the one trying to pass nonsense as facts.
For one, you are right. The Walls of the cities are for protection. They would not be necessary but for the fact that they are IN PALESTINE.
Ok two: The death toll I spoke if was close to 2,500. This was In regards to the Invasion of Lebanon. I got this info from B.B.C. News and N.P.R.News. and other maybe not so reliable Internet sources but they all correlated.
Of course you are allowed to say what you want on here but it does not make it fact.(Me as well, I have to learn not to take being called a Liar personally) So you or anyone can believe me or not or research it but. Israel has been the Aggressor from the begging and they have an agenda to Conquer. I did a paper on it in school. I had the U.C.F. Data base to get info from ,i wish i still did, but i still have my report quoting and Israeli "Mayor" of one of the cities in OCCUPIED Palestine stating that "there are no Borders to them. God gave it to Joshua and David and we will have it once again" It is called the "Zionist Doctrine" Im sure you can look it up. I will bring up my old report.
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
For one, you are right. The Walls of the cities are for protection. They would not be necessary but for the fact that they are IN PALESTINE.Ok two: The death toll I spoke if was close to 2,500. This was In regards to the Invasion of Lebanon. I got this info from B.B.C. News and N.P.R.News. and other maybe not so reliable Internet sources but they all correlated.
Of course you are allowed to say what you want on here but it does not make it fact.(Me as well, I have to learn not to take being called a Liar personally) So you or anyone can believe me or not or research it but. Israel has been the Aggressor from the begging and they have an agenda to Conquer. I did a paper on it in school. I had the U.C.F. Data base to get info from ,i wish i still did, but i still have my report quoting and Israeli "Mayor" of one of the cities in OCCUPIED Palestine stating that "there are no Borders to them. God gave it to Joshua and David and we will have it once again" It is called the "Zionist Doctrine" Im sure you can look it up. I will bring up my old report.
You do realize that Palestine is essentially in Israel and vice-versa? So the walls are on both sides, because that's what walls do, separate.
This war isn't against Lebanon/Hizbullah, this is an entirely different issue. What you're taking about is the 2006 Israel-Lebanon war, that had around 1,000 deaths; not 2,500 and it started when Hizbullah fired rockets into Israel as a diversion while another group of Hizbullah militants attacked an IDF patrol; they killed three IDF soldiers and kidnapped two, they didn't just kidnap one guy, as you previously stated.
Really now, you have stated nonsense and tried to pass it off as fact and you brought in other issues that don't pertain to this one. Gather some facts before you rant next time, okay?
Edit: I googled "Zionist Doctrine" for fun, even though I've heard it blabbered before by people like Ahmadinejad and other open Jew-haters. All I got was links to conspiracy sites. LoL.
Re: Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?
Originally posted by Bicnarok
NEWS:-Israeli air strikes kill more than 200 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, medics say, as Israel targets Hamas militants with the heaviest raids on Gaza for decades.
Well, if they're targetting Hamas...then there is no such thing as over the top.
Picture a classroom....there are two kids. A small angry child that throws paper balls to the other kid in the classroom. Now the other kid is a friggin bulk of a child...so happens the bulkier kid gets up from his chair...walks up to the small angry child...punches him in the face...the angry child starts to cry....well, he ask for it.
Pick a fight with the bigger dog...well, you gonna get bitten...badly bitten.
Moral of the story...think before starting a fight with someone bigger.
Re: Re: Israeli Bombing raids, over the top?
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Well, if they're targetting Hamas...then there is no such thing as over the top.Picture a classroom....there are two kids. A small angry child that throws paper balls to the other kid in the classroom. Now the other kid is a friggin bulk of a child...so happens the bulkier kid gets up from his chair...walks up to the small angry child...punches him in the face...the angry child starts to cry....well, he ask for it.
Pick a fight with the bigger dog...well, you gonna get bitten...badly bitten.
Moral of the story...think before starting a fight with someone bigger.
Nah I saw some on BBC news 24 last night.
They showed a rocket being fired and then it landing like 150 yrds from the news crew.
They followed up by showing that greenshit vision footage taken from a drone jet of like 7 or so guys on the Palestinian side loading a mortar or rocket launcher on the back of a pickup, the announcer saying that they were killed seconds later....
After that they switched back to the footage of the Israeli strikes occurring.
And they looked like big old explosions.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i never liked the fact that the un just handed them a country...
or there xenophopic world view zionism.... i think majority of historical things that accurred to them was partially caused by their own actions and religious mentality..
AMEN Brother. Finlay a voice of reason. The Zionist Doctrine is real. Someone on here said that the walls were for protection between Israel - Palestinian borders . WRONG they are Fortifications to protect Israeli Cities in Palestine. The Israelis are actively aggressive in their wanting all the land Back from the Time of Israel and Judea, over 2,000 years ago which ,in whole, was "Zion"
The 1964 Fatah Constitution,Chapter One, Article 7 Stated:
"The Zionist Movement is Racial, Colonial, and Aggressive in Ideology, goals organisation and method"
Sarah Waheed U.S Foreign Diplomatic Relations 2005:
"The wording of the charter isn’t a propaganda tool that Arab nations are throwing about, as the Corporate media would have one believe. In fact, most of the world’s countries have accepted that Zionism is tantamount to racism. Interestingly enough, Zionist leaders themselves call this “anti-semitism”, a charge often thrown about to ward off critics of Israel’s apartheid-like policies and aggression towards the Palestinians."
You have to look at the context of relatively recent changes in the Gaza strip. It's only been 3 years since Israel withdrew thousands of settlers from Gaza which was an extremely unpopular move among their own people but was considered the 1st real step towards a state of Palestine being created. Since then there has been continual rocket attacks from areas where Israeli's had once lived.
There may have even been a chance for peace had Hamas not been elected to rule the Palestinians....then there was the abduction of Corporal Gilad Shalit which then led Israel to retatliate...which then less Hamas to launch over 1300 rockets into Israel over the next year.
and on and on it goes.
Originally posted by Lycanthrope
AMEN Brother. Finlay a voice of reason. The Zionist Doctrine is real. Someone on here said that the walls were for protection between Israel - Palestinian borders . WRONG they are Fortifications to protect Israeli Cities in Palestine. The Israelis are actively aggressive in their wanting all the land Back from the Time of Israel and Judea, over 2,000 years ago which ,in whole, was "Zion"The 1964 Fatah Constitution,Chapter One, Article 7 Stated:
"The Zionist Movement is Racial, Colonial, and Aggressive in Ideology, goals organisation and method"
Sarah Waheed U.S Foreign Diplomatic Relations 2005:
"The wording of the charter isn’t a propaganda tool that Arab nations are throwing about, as the Corporate media would have one believe. In fact, most of the world’s countries have accepted that Zionism is tantamount to racism. Interestingly enough, Zionist leaders themselves call this “anti-semitism”, a charge often thrown about to ward off critics of Israel’s apartheid-like policies and aggression towards the Palestinians."
i made my comment from my study of world religion. the judeo religion has numerously bn responsible of up rise and rebellious attack of numerous societies that has planted themselves in... one of them was the roman empire that was fairly tolerate with religion..
ppl who use the anti semitec excuse need to look at their religion and culture about its rules of only marrying their own race and belief system and telling every one else that their religion is wrong and they are the only chosen ppl of god. should also look at the cultural gathering in one part of town which was the jewish mentality before they were ever forced to do it by government institiution of ghettos.
if anyone want to accuse me of being anti semitic i like to point out that i like and would marry.. natalie portman.
racisim would fall more in the xenophopic attitude and zion mentality..