John McClane VS Martin Riggs

Started by Rogue Jedi33 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
I didn't bother clicking the link, as we go on movie feats here, right?

Who's to say they don't stalk each other? See how that nonsense works. Besides, the thread starter said H2H and gun fight.

Watch Diehard 4, he does, because he's that much of a bad-ass. Riggs loses. /the end

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Death by Broken neck.
Death by knives....a knife he pulled out of his own leg, BTW
Martial arts, h2h combat
Pistol
Sniper rifle
Assault rifle
Surfboard
Collapsing a house on stilts with his truck
Machine pistol
Maintainence truck in LW3
Knees, elbows, head butts, all the shit you mentioned at the bottom.

Though similar on certain aspects, McClane's are more impressive, when we get to the fancier ones. So that's another clear win for him.

The only way I see Riggs winning, is if he has a sniper rifle, McClane is in the open and Riggs is far enough away where McClane can't shoot him first or use something from the environment like a car, truck, zippo, toaster or what have you, to kill Riggs first.

So you got that, Riggs can snipe. Congrats.

Originally posted by Robtard
Though similar on certain aspects, McClane's are more impressive, when we get to the fancier ones. So that's another clear win for him.

The only way I see Riggs winning, is if he has a sniper rifle, McClane is in the open and Riggs is far enough away where McClane can't shoot him first or use something in from the environment like a car, truck, zippo, toaster or what have you, to kill Riggs first.

So you got that, Riggs can snipe. Congrats.

McClaine needed an SUV to beat a GIRL. She pwned him H2H like a red headed stepchild. He was beaten by a GIRL.

I dont remember the thread starter arming McClaine with a car, a truck, or a household appliance. Bare hands, that's all, in the H2H scenario.

Pwned.

I cant remember Riggs biting anyone.

Martial arts is nullified by its inclusion under "all that shit you mentioned".

I didnt mention McClanes varius armaments as its diverse but not reflecting McClane's superiority through creative thinking..
Not much thought seemed to go into the surfboard accident as it was an accident. The stilts thing had been done in 'Hannibal Brooks' in the sixties. (And he pre-emptively 'out-originalitied' Riggs by using an Elephant to pull out the stilts)

So. Youre left with:

"Death by Broken neck.
Death by knives....a knife he pulled out of his own leg, BTW
Surfboard
Collapsing a house on stilts with his truck
Maintainence truck in LW3
Knees, elbows, head butts, all the shit you mentioned at the bottom."

Not that many diverse way there. McClane has the "More diverse creative, killing machine with the biggest onscreen death toll." award sewn up so far, it looks like.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I never saw Riggs bite anyone, I think.

Martial arts is nullified by its inclusion under "all that shit you mentioned".

I didnt mention McClanes varius armaments as its diverse but not reflecting McClane's superiority through creative thinking..
Not much thought seemed to go into the surfboard accident as it was an accident. The stilts thing had been done in Hannibal borroks in the sixties. (And he pre-emptively 'out-originalitied' Riggs by using an Elephant to pull out the stilts)

So. Youre left with:

"Death by Broken neck.
Death by knives....a knife he pulled out of his own leg, BTW
Surfboard
Collapsing a house on stilts with his truck
Maintainence truck in LW3
Knees, elbows, head butts, all the shit you mentioned at the bottom."

Not that many diverse way there. McClane has the "More diverse creative, killing machine with the biggest onscreen death toll."

So all the crosses, head butts, yada yada yada, they are to be classified as H2H or martial arts? Fair enough.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
McClaine needed an SUV to beat a GIRL. She pwned him H2H like a red headed stepchild. He was beaten by a GIRL.

I dont remember the thread starter arming McClaine with a car, a truck, or a household appliance. Bare hands, that's all, in the H2H scenario.

Pwned.

He wasn't beaten, as it's been told and re-told to you that she died, horribly too. Riggs couldn't beat a 5'3" little Asian man, he needed his side-kick, as typical.

And McClane has kicked a lot more ass using bare hands than Riggs has, despite not having his fancy thai chi skills, just basic boxing/grappling skills and demigod-like durability.

Edit: McClane would choke Riggs with his own mullet in H2H, fact.

Well whadya know:

Originally posted by Sado22
Maclaine thinks he's solo again in another hijacking incident. but he's not alone. Riggs is also in the building but unfortunately for both loose canons, neither knows the other is a cop and both are the shoot first, ask questions later variety. Both are armed with their usual Berreta92s and are on the top floors of the highrise. lots of cover.

there are two parts to it:
-gun fight
-fist fight

who wins?

Hmm.....I see no mention of cars, trucks, or any of the other bullshit being mentioned.

I see them in a high rise, pistol against pistol, and H2H.

So let's say we stick to the conditions of the thread? Hmm?

Originally posted by Robtard
Though similar on certain aspects, McClane's are more impressive, when we get to the fancier ones. So that's another clear win for him.

The only way I see Riggs winning, is if he has a sniper rifle, McClane is in the open and Riggs is far enough away where McClane can't shoot him first or use something from the environment like a car, truck, zippo, toaster or what have you, to kill Riggs first.

........also provided that McClane's luck doesn't jam the rifle. 😛

Originally posted by Robtard
He wasn't beaten, as it's been told and re-told to you that she died, horribly too. Riggs couldn't beat a 5'3" little Asian man, he needed his side-kick, as typical.

And McClane has kicked a lot more ass using bare hands than Riggs has, despite not having his fancy thai chi skills, just basic boxing/grappling skills and demigod-like durability.

Edit: McClane would choke Riggs with his own mullet in H2H, fact.

She beat the shit out of him and ***** kicked him out the window. He had to use a truck to kill her. Had he went back upstairs and engaged her H2H she would have KILLED him.

McClaine has kicked alot more ass with his bare hands than Riggs? You might wanna watch the movies again.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well whadya know:

Hmm.....I see no mention of cars, trucks, or any of the other bullshit being mentioned.

I see them in a high rise, pistol against pistol, and H2H.

So let's say we stick to the conditions of the thread? Hmm?

Youre missing the point.
I was listing the diversity between the methods of dispatchery.

Had to eliminate the cliched and ordinary from the list.

Then the sniper's rifle is a moot point then.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
........also provided that McClane's luck doesn't jam the rifle. 😛
Originally posted by Sado22
Maclaine thinks he's solo again in another hijacking incident. but he's not alone. Riggs is also in the building but unfortunately for both loose canons, neither knows the other is a cop and both are the shoot first, ask questions later variety. Both are armed with their usual Berreta92s and are on the top floors of the highrise. lots of cover.

there are two parts to it:
-gun fight
-fist fight

who wins?

It's like trying to explain calculus to a couple of retards.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Youre missing the point.
I was listing the diversity between the methods of dispatchery.

Had to eliminate the cliched and ordinary from the list.

Then the sniper's rifle is a moot point then.

Point is that you are using McClaines use of vehicles and shit to fuel your argument, they have no bearing here.

Originally posted by Robtard
He wasn't beaten, as it's been told and re-told to you that she died, horribly too. Riggs couldn't beat a 5'3" little Asian man, he needed his side-kick, as typical.

And McClane has kicked a lot more ass using bare hands than Riggs has, despite not having his fancy thai chi skills, just basic boxing/grappling skills and demigod-like durability.

Edit: McClane would choke Riggs with his own mullet in H2H, fact.

....he could lure Riggs into that trap with a buncha dog biscuits leading to a stack of vintage Mad Magazines.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Point is that you are using McClaines use of vehicles and shit to fuel your argument, they have no bearing here.

They do in the "diversity of attack" angle.
McClanes use of that truck/lift shaft was impressively different to any of my other list picks hence "Diverse".

"If my answers frighten you, then cease asking scary questions, Vincent."

You challenged me to list diverse ways of attack that I maintained were more creative/not generic cop shit.

I did it.

When challenged to do the same, you listed a lot of cliched overused things like different types of gun and rifles, padded out your list by mentioning MA/H2H combat twice.. How is that as spontaneous as McClane's solutions and kills listed...?

McClane won that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's like trying to explain calculus to a couple of retards.

First off, you can't do calculus.

Second, we've been debating and using examples from the movies to show how much more bad-ass McClane is when it comes to killing, be it with guns, hands or anything from the environment.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
....he could lure Riggs into that trap with a buncha dog biscuits leading to a stack of vintage Mad Magazines.
And Riggs could just sprinkle broken glass all over the place and sit back smoking as McClaine walks all over it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Riggs could just sprinkle broken glass all over the place and sit back smoking as McClaine walks all over it.

Which wouldn't stop him, as it didn't stop him from killing a bunch of well-armed henchmen and a mastermind, did it now. You just "pwned" yourself.

Originally posted by Robtard
First off, you can't do calculus.

Second, we've been debating and using examples from the movies to show how much more bad-ass McClane is when it comes to killing, be it with guns, hands or anything from the environment.

I might 🙄

They are in a high rise, it's pistol against pistol and H2H. It's pretty simple. Who is better H2H and with a pistol. That's it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Which wouldn't stop him, as it didn't stop him from killing a bunch of well-armed henchmen and a mastermind, did it now. You just "pwned" yourself.
Yeah, but he would be stupid enough to walk all over it. How many people did he kill AFTER he cut his feet?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I might 🙄

They are in a high rise, it's pistol against pistol and H2H. It's pretty simple. Who is better H2H and with a pistol. That's it.

No.

Yeah; McClane is still better at either, he also has the home-court advantage, as he's done the "high rise" assault before.