John McClane VS Martin Riggs

Started by Sadako of Girth33 pages

2 or 3 in the battle for the detonators as his feet were getting cut up,
The guy from Lethal Weapon on the roof...
That big H2H where he beat Karl,
Then he lays out that guy with the barer bonds that slide across the floor as he goes down, in one powerful single shot,
then has his showdown with Hans and his buddy Barry (the American sounding guy from the front desk).
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm...and Riggs would totally sit back and allow this to happen. Right.

And no, McClaine did no stalking in the vents, he was hiding, he had no choice.

No, he wouldn't know, and it would cost him his life. Unless you presume that Riggs has the magically ability to sense when someone is in the ventilation system?

Nonsense, he was out-gunned so he did the smart thing, stalking.

Edit: I think we just proved that McClane is the better stalker (aka assassin), as he has actual movie feats doing so. Another point for the Mc.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
2 or 3 in the battle for the detonators as his feet were getting cut up,
The guy from Lethal Weapon on the roof...
That big H2H where he beat Karl,
Then he lays out that guy with the barer bonds that slide across the floor as he goes down, in one powerful single shot,
then has his showdown with Hans and his buddy Barry (the American sounding guy from the front desk).
....
The 2 or 3 in the detonator battle dont count, didnt he use an MP5?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Home court would not come into play, dude. Riggs has fought pretty much in every environment McClaine has. Not literally in a high rise, but in buildings and shit, whats it matter if they are 50 floors up?

Yep as stamina/energy running all up and down those stairs is a factor.
This is where McClanes evil powers of durabilty come in.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, he wouldn't know, and it would cost him his life. Unless you presume that Riggs has the magically ability to sense when someone is in the ventilation system?
Well, considering Riggs's training, it's safe to say if it comes down to stealth, McClaine is finished.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The 2 or 3 in the detonator battle dont count, didnt he use an MP5?

Every one killed after the guys start shooting the glass even before Han's orders counts as there was broken glass even before he ordered it. I will however tally it officially later.
It'd have been cutting him even standing static, let alone running on it.

Heeheheeeeee the "Dr.McClane's knee surgery is open" bit....
Then the Berretta.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yep as stamina/energy running all up and down those stairs is a factor.
This is where McClanes evil powers of durabilty come in.
And Riggs has no stamina? Dude, he chased down a car after being tortured by Indo.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering Riggs's training, it's safe to say if it comes down to stealth, McClaine is finished.
Originally posted by Robtard
Edit: I think we just proved that McClane is the better stalker (aka assassin), as he has actual movie feats doing so. Another point for the Mc.

Remember, movie feats.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Heeheheeeeee the "Dr.McClane's knee surgery is open" bit....
Then the Berretta.
Hmm? You talking about that guy he shot and dude fell through the glass, cutting his knees to shit?

THAT looked painful.

Originally posted by Robtard
Remember, movie feats.
Wiki is commonly used here. And considering the directors name was attached to it, yeah, it's creditable.

Correction, the directors name is attached to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_Weapon

But they are linked.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, considering Riggs's training, it's safe to say if it comes down to stealth, McClaine is finished.

In a jungle enviroment maybe.
And Riggs doenst have a Predator stealth costume, you know...!!! 😛

In the desert he wasnt that stealthy and was captured.

In buildings there is only average levels of stealth exhibitied.

McClane hid from 12-13 guys in a tight building setting and he was pretty stealthy. How stealthy was that machine saw and stealth bit that gave him the drop on Karl's brother in DH1...? Awesomely stealthy.

Also, whos gonna be stealthier, some one with boots, shoes making noise on office floors...?

.......or the guy with bare feet...?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Riggs has no stamina? Dude, he chased down a car after being tortured by Endo.

Whereas McClane ran around all night taking real damage and showing us real stamina and then shot the shit out of Endo. 😛

Its pretty good, but he got rest after that...On the way to Roger's place... I could probably run that distance that fast, fer chrissakes... Certainly back when I was doing road work with boxing years ago. But I dont think I could have kept that going all day or night like McClane does regularly.

And that car wasn't exactly running free at sixty now, was it...?
He didnt run that fast or that far before cooking the Shadow boss on the road..

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wiki is commonly used here. And considering the directors name was attached to it, yeah, it's creditable.

Last time I checked, Vietnam era special forces units didn't fight/stalk 'Charlie' in HVAC shafts. Ergo, home-court advantage stands, not that McClane really needs it againt Riggs.

Absolutely. Especially without Murtaugh.

And yes jungle paratroopers have little appreciation of what TV dinners feel like.

Hell McClane is so adept at using those vents, he can even have them change his Vest for him. 😉

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AGfmfPYiO1w

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=72jnMkynNwk&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=63apZAzH0yA

FACT: Replace John McClane as the protagonist in any of the LW films and suddenly the runtime of each film is cut to 0:h 3:m 18😖 as he quickly dispatches any and all villains.

FACT: Replace Riggs and Murtaugh in Diehard, you won't be able to have them do Diehard 2, as Gruber and henchies would have ended them.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, he wouldn't know, and it would cost him his life. Unless you presume that Riggs has the magically ability to sense when someone is in the ventilation system?

Nonsense, he was out-gunned so he did the smart thing, stalking.

Edit: I think we just proved that McClane is the better stalker (aka assassin), as he has actual movie feats doing so. Another point for the Mc.

His penis erects when he senses danger....thats what beer and cigs will do to ya

Originally posted by steverules_2
His penis erects when he senses danger....thats what beer and cigs will do to ya

McClane could easily out-drink and out-smoke Riggs, fact.

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane could easily out-drink and out-smoke Riggs, fact.

Uhm...I was just making a joke sly Guess it wasn't that good but meh