I dunno, McClane seems to have the bigger plots and more bangs, but he also does have incredible luck which kinda takes away from his skill.
He just doesn't seem as impressive, but he manages to come out with better feats anyway.
So going by feats, I would probably say McClane. But just watching the characters skills etc, I would lean towards Riggs. But hey, the feats are what counts...
Edit: MAD mag rules.
Originally posted by Placidity
I dunno, McClane seems to have the bigger plots and more bangs, but he also does have incredible luck which kinda takes away from his skill.He just doesn't seem as impressive, but he manages to come out with better feats anyway.
So going by feats, I would probably say McClane. But just watching the characters skills etc, I would lean towards Riggs. But hey, the feats are what counts...
His luck is almost a skill.
By it being repeatedly proveable asset in combat.
Besides.
I know a skilled chartered accountant, but I wouldnt expect him to win against McClane though.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His luck is almost a skill.
By it being repeatedly proveable asset in combat.
In a debate, I couldn't argue your point, because he did beat that fighter jet and other crazy stuff. But I'm just saying in my mind, its like "meh/yea right".
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Besides.
I know a skilled chartered accountant, but I wouldnt expect him to win against McClane though.
what? 🙁
You just stated that skills are Riggs' edge.
Well I say that it isn't everything.
And making dumbassed mistakes like that bit in LW1 with all that three stooges "you wanna see crazy?" stuff negates that "advantage".
McClane'd have just shot him there and then the second that Riggs started slapping his own face and whooping and stuff.
Plenty of the world's high class shooters/marksman have had issues firing on live targets. So skills on their own aren't enough.
Skill can be like unapplied theory in that regard.
In this situation its like:
Riggs is very skilled in many ways, but can does he have the neccesary McClane-killing skills...? Well if he goofs off like he does frequently in movies, It'll be a moot point as Riggs'd be dead.
Originally posted by steverules_2
In LW1 the only reason riggs didn't get killed by that sniper was because he wasn't aiming he was just firing randomly, if he had actually been aiming then....yeah riggs woulda been dead but still it was good shooting by riggs
I agree.
(Even though it took him the whole clip to hit a guy once or twice.)
Another example of alleged sniping skills not quite being the big be all and end of everything in the field.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthWatch it again. The guy was aiming at Riggs, it's quite clear. And a whole clip, yes, but dude was like 50 feet or more away AND behind a metal barrier.
I agree.
(Even though it took him the whole clip to hit a guy once or twice.)Another example of alleged sniping skills not quite being the big be all and end of everything in the field.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthDoes he have the skills? How many times must Riggs exploits in LW1 be mentioned? When he frees Murtaugh after being electrocuted? No WAY McLaine pulls that off. If anything, Riggs, if going at it in a war zone while McLaine does the same, will compose a body count that far surpasses McLaines.
You just stated that skills are Riggs' edge.Well I say that it isn't everything.
And making dumbassed mistakes like that bit in LW1 with all that three stooges "you wanna see crazy?" stuff negates that "advantage".
McClane'd have just shot him there and then the second that Riggs started slapping his own face and whooping and stuff.
Plenty of the world's high class shooters/marksman have had issues firing on live targets. So skills on their own aren't enough.
Skill can be like unapplied theory in that regard.
In this situation its like:
Riggs is very skilled in many ways, but can does he have the neccesary McClane-killing skills...? Well if he goofs off like he does frequently in movies, It'll be a moot point as Riggs'd be dead.
The cops coming out of the situation as Riggs was going in were saying that the sniper was random and not aiming. When he is firing at Riggs, shot were erupting all round his feet. A prescision sniper would have nailed Riggs who was happy enough to present himself as a target.
McClane wouldnt have missed, if he were shooting at Riggs.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Does he have the skills? How many times must Riggs exploits in LW1 be mentioned? When he frees Murtaugh after being electrocuted? No WAY McLaine pulls that off. If anything, Riggs, if going at it in a war zone while McLaine does the same, will compose a body count that far surpasses McLaines.
Ahhh but we never see that.
All we see on screen is McClane killing way more people.
If McClane could pull off rescuing Holly in the way that he did in DH1, he could pull that off. In a different way, granted, but he could pull it off.
Riggs exploits in all the LW movies, all pale next to the god of death that is McClane's shenanigans.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthWTF does that have to do with it? You should be asking yourself if McLaine could have taken the guy out with a beretta.
The cops coming out of the situation as Riggs was going in were saying that the sniper was random and not aiming. When he is firing at Riggs, shot were erupting all round his feet. A prescision sniper would have nailed Riggs who was happy enough to present himself as a target.McClane wouldnt have missed, if he were shooting at Riggs.