John McClane VS Martin Riggs

Started by Rogue Jedi33 pages

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
She being dead and him being alive...?

Some would argue that she got owned.

That girl was a faster opponent than Riggs.
And she was picking bumper and headlights out out her bottom afterwards.

Dude......McClaine needed a truck to kill her. He wont have a truck against Riggs. WHO won the H2H battle between McClain and Maggie Q? EXACTLY.

In a gun battle it'd be a case of who got there first and McClane could get the drop on Riggs. Its possible.
No doubt. Hell, even you or I would have a CHANCE at getting the drop on Riggs. Oh yeah, did I mention Riggs can shoot from the hip?

Riggs also was Pwned too and needed Roger to come running.
And if Riggs couldnt do Jet li's character, he has no chance against the legendary durabilty of McClane.
As I said, the point is not who WON the Jet Li/Riggs battle, point is when Riggs got pissed, he was WINNING the H2H battle. Jet Li just happened to know pressure points better than Riggs did, AND Riggs had taken alot of punishment. McClaine versus Jet Li's character=One dead cop.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
"Yipee ki yay mother ****er!"....... *Riggs dies in explsion.*
Originally posted by §P0oONY
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(for next page.... this is enough of an explanation for any victory)

The ability to beat criminal masterminds denotes more intelligence.

1) Oh...so what was McClane doing while delivering the lines about "Im gonna kill ya.....Im gonna cook ya....Im gonna f***i' eat ya."

And of course "You should have heard your brother squealing...when I broke his f***ing neck."

I think you'll find that despite the beating he had been recieving from a trained killer, he was whupping his ass back.

2) He wasnt the father of good times, there, was he? He was Green Beret.

3) Fair play.

4) McClane won though.

Sure. Average Joes, German hired killer gangs, Mercs and special forces Commandos and that bunch of tossers from DH4. 😛

You guys are getting WAY off topic. This is a HAND TO HAND fight and a GUNFIGHT.

Riggs is not on a plane, He is not the head of a terrorist organization, and he is not in a chopper. McClaine does not have a car or truck, nor is he strapping a desk chair full of C4 and hurling it down an elevator shaft at McClaine.

McClaine is more Indiana Jones/McGuyver in his approach to fighting, making shit up as he goes along, being resourceful with what he has, relying more on luck than skill. Remember the elevator shootout in DH2?

Riggs is a killing machine, pure and simple. He is a juggernaut compared to McClaine.

Hand to hand - McClane wins...Why? Because he's ****ing John McClane.
Gun fight - McClane wins... Why? Because he's ****ing John McClane.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The ability to beat criminal masterminds denotes more intelligence.
But does it make you a better ONE ON ONE H2H combatant? Nope. Lok at Mike Tyson, dude has the IQ of a testicle and he whupped ass for years.

1) Oh...so what was McClane doing while delivering the lines about "Im gonna kill ya.....Im gonna cook ya....Im gonna f***i' eat ya."

And of course "You should have heard your brother squealing...when I broke his f***ing neck."

Yeah, so he talked some shit, so? What does that have to do with me clarifying why Riggs called Shadow company a buncha pussies?

I think you'll find that despite the beating he had been recieving from a trained killer, he was whupping his ass back.
And when Riggs fought Busey in LW1, Busey was the trained killer, someone far deadlier than Karl was H2H.

2) He wasnt the father of good times, there, was he? He was Green Beret.
Durh really? I thought he was the staff carrying pacifist from the Beastmaster.

3) Fair play.

4) McClane won though.

Not sure what you are referring to.

Sure. Average Joes, German hired killer gangs, Mercs and special forces Commandos and that bunch of tossers from DH4. 😛
Not the point and you know it.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Hand to hand - McClane wins...Why? Because he's ****ing John McClane.
Gun fight - McClane wins... Why? Because he's ****ing John McClane.
Yeah, well......Bob Lee Swagger pwns Batman.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude......McClaine needed a truck to kill her. He wont have a truck against Riggs. WHO won the H2H battle between McClain and Maggie Q? EXACTLY.

No doubt. Hell, even you or I would have a CHANCE at getting the drop on Riggs. Oh yeah, did I mention Riggs can shoot from the hip.

So it doesnt matter that Riggs didnt kill and him its just about how well he fought... yet it matters magically who won McClane's DH4 fight..?

Odd double standardry.

If Riggs did what he did against those drugs dealers, during the "ive gotta prove how crazy I am by doing the three stooges bit" bit, and I would have shot him in the face while he did that...
McClane sure would.

McClane shot people through tables, and that Gaffer tape trick at the end of DH1 while getting his shots off in time AND accurately while his wife's life was at stake impresses me more than merely shooting from the hip.

Just wanna say that I am actually a huge fan of McClaine, more so than I am of Riggs, so I am not being a fanboy. I am just being real.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, well......Bob Lee Swagger pwns Batman.

Ok... Fine by me... So we're agreed.

Oh, and I've never seen leathal weapon... But I'm sure this Riggs fellow wouldn't match up.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But does it make you a better ONE ON ONE H2H combatant? Nope. Lok at Mike Tyson, dude has the IQ of a testicle and he whupped ass for years.

Yeah, so he talked some shit, so? What does that have to do with me clarifying why Riggs called Shadow company a buncha pussies?

And when Riggs fought Busey in LW1, Busey was the trained killer, someone far deadlier than Karl was H2H.

Durh really? I thought he was the staff carrying pacifist from the Beastmaster.

Not sure what you are referring to.

Not the point and you know it.

Mike Tyson didnt have to solve the shit that McClane did.

The point that you miss here is that he was actually beating the f**k out of Karl while saying it. Therefore it wasnt the one sided ass whupping that you maintain it was until McClane got the chain involved. Wasnt Riggs getting fu**ed up until, when he pulled the chain on that African guy in LW2?

Then why diss all McClanes opponents as Average Joes, If you knew who he was....?
And save the duuhhhhhhh shit for someone deserving. Wow thanks for showing me that it really IS the lowest form of wit.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just wanna say that I am actually a huge fan of McClaine, more so than I am of Riggs, so I am not being a fanboy. I am just being real.

Real as you can get for two fictional fighters fighting a fictional fight.
It might seem real to fanboys.... 😉

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Ok... Fine by me... So we're agreed.

Oh, and I've never seen leathal weapon... But I'm sure this Riggs fellow wouldn't match up.

😕

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Does Riggs drive a car through a helicopter? Because if he doesn't, I'm not interested.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Ok... Fine by me... So we're agreed.

Oh, and I've never seen leathal weapon... But I'm sure this Riggs fellow wouldn't match up.

'Tis a really good movie. You should definitely rent it at least while the yuletideness is still in the air.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Does Riggs drive a car through a helicopter? Because if he doesn't, I'm not interested.

Im afraid he doesnt. 🙁

Lethal weapon is good but Die hard is better 😎

*'Ode to joy' triumphantly blasts out round the thread*

I think a number of people think that McClane takes this with the odd few thinking Riggs wins

Emphysis on the "odd"...... 😛