Kas'im vs galen marek

Started by Darth Truculent9 pages

No kidding about being online - they're holding back on us!

But yes Faunus does make a point that Starkiller did have "formal" training. He was tutored under Vader. Vader could have killed him on the spot when he killed Starkiller's father, but recognized his potential. He just didn't know how much power he had.

But back to Kas'im, I do think Starkiller/Galen Marek could outfight and overpower Kas'im due to his training.

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
If thats the case I'll be a senoit member in about six months.

Don't care. 😛
Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias

By the way, wasn't Galen Marek able to hold off against Paply's lightning?

Under a unique and one time state of 'oneness' with the Force he managed to survive it for a few moments.
Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias

His lightning is far more powerful than Bane's powers

It took Starkiller's life, an instaconversion to the Light side, and a threat to the lives of his new cause's ringleaders to tank the lightning; If he tries it against Bane the best he can hope for is a repeat: a big boom that doesn't hurt Bane in the least.
Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias

and, even if Palpatine isn't using any effort,

Nothing that I know of suggests this.
Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias

is still pretty impressive considering that Starkiller hadn't much training compared to Kas'im and Bane,

15 years is a lot of training.
Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias

and from what I've seen from my TFU game, Galen has very powerful Force capacity. But he is greatly lacking in lightsaber skills, as he had to resort to a particularly aggressive use of the force to clip his opponents up the ass.

Yes. The question is if he can get around the proven powerful defenses of Kas'im.

You ignored by rebuttal, tool.

Red your a master of rebutals too!

But assasins are trained in some form of the martial arts. Mara was an assasin and was quite skilled in the use of martial arts.

Kas'im was a Sith Lord, but didn't have the strength of Vader or Bane. You do have a point that Starkiller's/Galen Marek's TK can be countered. But his FL (Starkiller's/Galen Marek's) was incredibly powerful. Starkiller killed Shak Ti . . . but would Kas'im have the power to kill Shak Ti?

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Red, you're a master of rebutals too!
Corrected.

But assasins are trained in some form of the martial arts. Mara was an assasin and was quite skilled in the use of martial arts.
He knows how to fight with a lightsaber; Cestus Deception reveals that a Jedi applies the same principles of his chosen lightsaber form to his unarmed style of combat.

In short, there's no indication that Starkiller practiced a specific kind of unarmed combat.

Kas'im was a Sith Lord, but didn't have the strength of Vader or Bane. You do have a point that Starkiller's/Galen Marek's TK can be countered. But his FL (Starkiller's/Galen Marek's) was incredibly powerful. Starkiller killed Shak Ti . . . but would Kas'im have the power to kill Shak Ti?
Again; relevancy is cool.

Faunus each martial art has it's strengths and weaknesses. I'm guessing it was a type of hand-to-hand combat like the Israeli martial arts.

Back to Kas'im and Starkiller. Starkiller would utilize his skills as an assasin to defeat him. Starkiller is far from a master swordsman, but his strenth in the Force would defeat Kas'im. Starkiller brought down an SD, his FL is just too powerful. Frying an AT-AT is a major accomplishment. Can Kas'im counter that much power?

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
But he is greatly lacking in lightsaber skills, as he had to resort to a particularly aggressive use of the force to clip his opponents up the ass.

I'm afraid I must disagree with you there. Galen's lightsabre skills were very good.

* He out-duels Rahm Kota.

* Holds his own against Shaak Ti.

* Out-duels Maris Brood, immediately after blowing up her pet rancor's head from inside its mouth.

* Defeats Vader in a duel.

True he finished them off with the Force, but that was after he was beating them in sword-fighting (except Shaak Ti).

But he did manage to stop an imperial destroyer from crashing into a planet. While people like Luke Skywalker could probably do that in their sleep, for Starkiller it could still be equal to Kas'im blocking Bane's lightning, so I think Kas'im could manage to defeat Starkiller with incredible difficulty, considering he's had some experience with the FL and FP.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Faunus each martial art has it's strengths and weaknesses. I'm guessing it was a type of hand-to-hand combat like the Israeli martial arts.

Back to Kas'im and Starkiller. Starkiller would utilize his skills as an assasin to defeat him. Starkiller is far from a master swordsman, but his strenth in the Force would defeat Kas'im. Starkiller brought down an SD, his FL is just too powerful. Frying an AT-AT is a major accomplishment. Can Kas'im counter that much power?

whats FL? and why do people always think that starkiller is shitty with lightsaber?

Originally posted by Faunus
Generally speaking, the aggressor doesn't usually attack the environment as Bane did. If we limit this to telekinesis, and then further limit it to attacks were actually defended against, I can come up with the following examples off the top of my head:

1.) Obi-Wan vs. Anakin (RotS): The Force-push contest ended with both of them being hurled at least a dozen meters away from the focal point of the energy. They are surrounded by the corpses of slaughtered Separatist leaders and the remains of dismantled droids. No noted collateral damage.

2.) Raynar Thul vs. Luke (DN: TSW): Raynar Thul attacks Luke with the combined Force-potential of every Force-sensitive member of an entire colony. Luke blocks it. They are surrounded by a ten meter-high pile of Killik corpses and destroyed droids, as well as standing "Bugcruncher" droids. No noted collateral damage.

3.) Asajj Ventress vs. Anakin (CWC): Ventress attempts to Force-push Skywalker away while he is charging up the stairs at her; he simply runs through the attack, with the only effect being that his shirt is torn into tatters. No noted collateral damage.

I could list at least a dozen instances where the attack isn't defended against and there is still no collateral damage, which would indicate that the attack is directed solely at the target.

Doubtful. Marek's lightning overloaded an AT-AT, and Darth Vader couldn't fully defend himself against the young man's telekinesis.

This is true.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxfp3vVDwL4&feature=PlayList&p=4148F8E82A720D32&index=0&playnext=1

6m 30s...massive collatoral damage to the enviroment during a force attack

Can you feel it

The perfect day

Scratch the leaved
The paper tears
The world I'm feeling start giving away
A perfect day
A perfect day

Suddenly your rule the universe
Everything was shapeles is clear now
I visualize with a drop of sound

I am The Man Without Fear

Hello lady
She takes my hand
Delicate features in this rain
I lose everything
can I dream

The voices scream
The voices shout

Suddenly youre shot irreparably

Everything was evil now clear

I hear the darkness without sound
I am The Man Without Fear

what is this? your english hw?

lol

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
But he did manage to stop an imperial destroyer from crashing into a planet. While people like Luke Skywalker could probably do that in their sleep, for Starkiller it could still be equal to Kas'im blocking Bane's lightning, so I think Kas'im could manage to defeat Starkiller with incredible difficulty, considering he's had some experience with the FL and FP.

Kas'im NEVER blocked lightning.

Originally posted by kotorfan
whats FL? and why do people always think that starkiller is shitty with lightsaber?

1. Force Lightning I assume.

2. I have no idea. He was actually very good with a lightsabre.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
2. I have no idea. He was actually very good with a lightsabre.

I haven't read the book yet so I can't say how good he was but I think some people want him to be "shitty" with a lightsaber to balance his "over the top" force power.

nobody ever listens to Rob Zombie anymore, ugh

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
I haven't read the book yet so I can't say how good he was but I think some people want him to be "shitty" with a lightsaber to balance his "over the top" force power.

I think you're right there.

Read the book if you get the chance. It's really good.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
I think you're right there.

Read the book if you get the chance. It's really good.

I intend to but I'm to cheap to buy it 😄 and I have no clue where the new library is in my town, come to think of it, it has been years since I went to any library.

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
I intend to but I'm to cheap to buy it 😄 and I have no clue where the new library is in my town, come to think of it, it has been years since I went to any library.

You could wait until it comes out in paperback.