Kas'im vs galen marek

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
It was stated that, as soon as a duel started, both combatants would put up their Force shield and leave it up for the entire fight. The reason why Kas'im didn't have his up is that he foolishly stopped fighting and started ranting about how he was going to pwn Bane.

Sure, Kas'im didn't sense if until the last few seconds, but even though that meant that he only had a few seconds to prepare the shield, he still managed to block it. In this fight, assuming that there isn't any PIS or CIS, Kas'im will bring up his shield as soon as the fight starts (again, duelists always put it up as soon as a fight starts) so he will be prepared for any Force attack.

And since when is a massive pillar going to be in the battlefield by chance? Although there is likely to be smaller objects such as bushes and stuff like that, Kas'im could easily Force them back, chop them up or dodge them.

See? Even if I turn out to be wrong, my reasoning isn't "idiotic". You can be wrong and yet still not be "idiotic".

In addition to the above:

In response to your post that Vader's alien form will allow him to match/almost match Kas'im in sabers, the form is only a little alien to Kas'im. It's just a combination of Form 5 and a few other elements thrown in. Now compare that to Kas'im's dual sided lightsaber, which is more or less completely alien to Vader, and Kas'im's knowledge of every sequence and move. Vader doesn't know every sequence and move, which means that they are plenty that Vader would be completely unfamiliar with, unlike Vader's form which Kas'im would only be slightly confused at. Vader would be VERY confused at the dual sided saber and the magnitudes of sequences/moves that Kas'im knows and Vader doesn't.

So Kas'im pwns in sabers
Vader pwns in pure Force
AS YOU SAID, it's "a different story (than Vader pwning, since you were just talking about that before saying "a different story", meaning that it's different from Vader pwning, so it would be close)" in all out.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

Sure, Kas'im didn't sense if until the last few seconds, but even though that meant that he only had a few seconds to prepare the shield, he still managed to block it. In this fight, assuming that there isn't any PIS or CIS, Kas'im will bring up his shield as soon as the fight starts (again, duelists always put it up as soon as a fight starts) so he will be prepared for any Force attack.

And since when is a massive pillar going to be in the battlefield by chance? Although there is likely to be smaller objects such as bushes and stuff like that, Kas'im could easily Force them back, chop them up or dodge them.

First off prove kasim had his shield up before the fight began.

Secondly the "he still managed to block it" argument doesn't cut it because bane has proven that you can smash through your opponents defences, banes force wave was a singular blast attack, not a continuous one like a force crush which will eventually smash through his defences.

Oh, and it depends where the fight takes place and it likely takes place in an area filled with debris to vaders advantage.

Don't forget about RoT where Bane annihilates the Force defenses of just about everybody he meets.

That too.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Well.. I'm still recovering from severe food poisoning, so i'll just respond to these points.

First off prove kasim had his shield up before the fight began.

Secondly the "he still managed to block it" argument doesn't cut it because bane has proven that you can smash through your opponents defences, banes force wave was a singular blast attack, not a continuous one like a force crush which will eventually smash through his defences.

Oh, and it depends where the fight takes place and it likely takes place in an area filled with debris to vaders advantage.

Food poisoning? Are you OK? (serious question)

I can't, nor did I say he did. However, it was stated in PoD that whenever a fight starts duelists would put up their Force shield. This therefore means that Kas'im would do the same thing (since I think that he taught the students to use Force shield, so he'd obviously use it) when facing Vader. So his shield will be up as soon as the fight begins.

Of course you can, just like how Bane easily smashed through Qordis's defenses. But Kas'im has shown to be able to block Force attacks pretty well, ie blocking an attack that could pulverize his body and smash a temple - and old, not so stable temple, but still impressive. And even if Vader CAN break through Kas'im's defenses, which is certainly possible, it wouldn't be easy. He'd have to struggle quite a bit, therefore meaning that it wouldn't be a curbstomp with Vader being "far" more powerful.

True, but if we're to make the battlefield balanced then it should appeal to both Vader and Kas'im equally, meaning some debris but no massive pillars that are there for some reason.

Dude, to answer your question, no, i was not okay and the poisoning was brutal, turns out that i had a gastric flu which is even more severe than regular food poisoning which only takes a day to heal.

Anyways i'm took weak to argue let alone eat...

So i'll just agree with you and give you a sincere apology for calling you an idiot and behaving like a jackass.

Peace

wolfie, are you dying on us?

What poisoned you?

CANDLE, YOU'VE GOT A LOT TO ANSWER FOR!!!

😠

okay, i'll ask, what is candle?

Originally posted by truejedi
wolfie, are you dying on us?

What poisoned you?

It happened on sunday(probably saturday in american time)

Thought i got better on monday so life went back as usual until later that night....

Having diarrhea from 12 am to 7 am... i tell you that night and sunday was extremely brutal, i felt like some one constantly punched my stomach and i constantly felt like vomiting.

Hell the doctor told me i couldn't eat quite alot of stuff so eating became another challenge, especially when i nearly vomit when i try to ear.

Turns out i had gastric flu after visiting the doctor for the second time and not regular food poisoning which goes away in a day...

What restaurant did you go to?

Anyway, hope you feel better soon.

PS. I won!

dang man. sounds brutal.

Very very brutal.

Its hard enough to even lift a mug let alone put food in my mouth and swallow.

Now i can say im slightly better, not too bed ridden but i hope the condition doesn't worsen.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
What restaurant did you go to?

Anyway, hope you feel better soon.

PS. I won!

No, you didn't win. Force wave is not the same as a force grip. A force wave acts more like a shock wave.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I can't, nor did I say he did. However, it was stated in PoD that whenever a fight starts duelists would put up their Force shield.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
This therefore means that Kas'im would do the same thing (since I think that he taught the students to use Force shield, so he'd obviously use it) when facing Vader.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
So his shield will be up as soon as the fight begins.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Of course you can, just like how Bane easily smashed through Qordis's defenses. But Kas'im has shown to be able to block Force attacks pretty well,

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
ie blocking an attack that could pulverize his body and smash a temple - and old, not so stable temple, but still impressive.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And even if Vader CAN break through Kas'im's defenses, which is certainly possible, it wouldn't be easy.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
He'd have to struggle quite a bit, therefore meaning that it wouldn't be a curbstomp with Vader being "far" more powerful.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
True, but if we're to make the battlefield balanced then it should appeal to both Vader and Kas'im equally, meaning some debris but no massive pillars that are there for some reason.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Very very brutal.

Its hard enough to even lift a mug let alone put food in my mouth and swallow.

Now i can say im slightly better, not too bed ridden but i hope the condition doesn't worsen.

um.. maybe u should just rest perhaps? And how are you even able to reply? i thought u said u were bed ridden.(slightly)

well hope u recover faster. 😄

an you provide a direct quote or page number?

I think it was in the training section. I'll find it and post it 2mrw. unless Hewhoknowsall gets it first.
EDIT: the russian site POD link is broken... and the one I found is in russian. I'll just have to find the book at home i guess.

edit again: this helps... http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsweu.ru%2Fdatabase.htm

I was bed ridden before yesterday and today. Yesterday + today i am feeling much better but still recovering from the shit stomach bug.

I am actually considering opening a case against the store that poisoned my but i don't have a strong case because the other people didn't get sick and i was just unlucky to eat a single piece of contaminated meat.

hey if u do do that, u might make some money! lol

well ur right. You don't really have a strong case, but I guess you could say they have to be more careful and make sure that they cook the meat properly. Hopefully it was tasty though, cuz if it wasn't, that would really suck.

Meh i will just probably forget it, i ate at that place several times because the food there is that good.

Just happen to be unlucky this time 🙁