Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Dude, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM????!!!??!! Apparently your maturity level is about that of a 1st grader, because you are incapable of debating without bashing people.
I am incapable of debating with stupid/ignorant people hence i bash them.
When was the last time i bashed truejedi or Dr Mcbeefington this badly during a debate? Oh right last i recall, none.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Do you no realize something called manners? If you think that someone is fat, you don't just go up to them and say that they're fat to their face, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY AREN'T ACTUALLY FAT!!!! Just take a chill, relax, and calm down.
So are you admitting to be actually stupid but your upset that i am outright telling it to you in your face? Whats the matter? Can't handle the truth?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And once again you fail to actually read, because I never said that Vader isn't more powerful. I said that Kas'im would PUT UP A GOOD FIGHT, not necessarily win.
And yet you say kasim MIGHT win, now your contradiction yourself making you look even less credible.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. Kas'im has shown to be able to block force attacks of considerable power.
Yeah, he could barely block the attack for your information and vaders command of the force as of TFU surpasses that of bane as of POD.
Dude, vader casually choked rahm kota and ragdolled him with relative ease, the same rahm kota that tore a space station's comman module apart and sent the entire facility to critical condition.
Vader is capable of overwhelming powerful(and above average force users obviously) individuals.
Kasim may throw up a shield but whats to say that vaders powerful attacks and sheer rage isn't going to smash through any defences kasim put up?(Bane did the same thing to qoordis).
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
2. Kas'im isn't a wimp in the force. Sure Vader is more powerful, but Kas'im himself is more than capable of using it too.
Yeah and the
only thing kasim has ever done with the force(at least to what i recall) is
barely throw up a shield to block a force attack.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
3. Explain to ME how Vader's uber force powers are going to help him when Kas'im manages to close the gap and start hitting him (other than providing a slight boost in strength/speed).
And how is kasim going to close the gap if vader unleashes an attack that kasim cannot defend against?
Hell even if he does close the gap, he isn't going to be owning vader in sabers because he is fighting a style that has elements of the majority of light saber forms and that gives vader a slight advantage and would allow vader to hold his own until theres an opportunity to unleash massive TK attacks to overwhelm kasim.
You have seen what vader is capable off during a saber duel, he, durign a duel is capable of manipulating the environment to his advantage and then kill his enemies.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
4. What do you mean by "he is right to a certain degree"? Kas'im has mastered EVERY sequence of every form (except for Vapaad). Has Vader mastered even a tenth of every force move?
So what if vader mastered only a tenth of every force moves? Are you implying that he is weak? Because vaders command of the force says other wise and he greatly surpasses any nightsisters(that has more force moves than him) .
And according to some guide, it was stated that galen marek learned many dark side powers from vader.
Now lightning + TK isn't considered "many" you know?
Gideon listed the quotes and i will get them.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
...are you serious?
HOW is it obvious that one who practices deflection would practice up close combat? They are two completely different things with two very different purposes: one is to defend against blaster bolts, the other is to fight against other saber wielding opponents. The latter is, according to you, useless if your enemy is stronger in the force (which contradicts a blademaster with decades of experience), so why not spend all that wasted effort on getting stronger in the force so that you can pwn your enemies before they even get close?
So what is your point here moron? Just what are you trying to tell me?
That kasim's saber mastery is going to overwhelms vaders command of the force?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
They train hand to hand, but that's only a small part of their combat training. Of the combat part of the jedi's training, lightsaber dueling takes up a very large portion of it.
Just see the above, I'm just saying the force can overwhelm a saber master because according to
numerous individuals, the force is a far more terrible weapon.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
If it isn't "much more important", then why is Vader far more powerful? Kas'im > Vader in sabers, and Vader > Kas'im in the force. Even if the force is more important, you just said that the force isn't FAR more important, so therefore Vader isn't FAR more powerful! It's pretty simple.
More important = More powerful?
Oh god are you serious? Is this how far your intelligence has decreased ?
First off your assuming kasim is greater than vader in sabers because of a simple quote, hell vader has defeated roan shryne who was also stated to be a master of lightsaber combat and just how are you called a master if you don't master the lightsaber forms? Hmm?
Let me use your logic against you.
First off, i'll assume kasim is superior to vader in sabers, but as far as this goes, he doesn't surpass vader that much.
On the other hand, as far as command of the force goes, vader vastly surpasses kasim in the force, keyword: vastly.
So by your own logic, vader IS far more powerful than kasim.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And no, Bane didn't "tool" Kas'im. Kas'im managed to block it, it's just that by chance they were in a temple, so the temple came crashing down on him. Had they been on open ground, Kas'im wouldn't have been injured or killed.
I'll ignore this one, ROT bane would have been a different story.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Vader is not aware of even a tenth of the lightsaber styles and sequences that Kas'im knows. Has he ever fought against a double sided lightsaber (other than that clone of Maul, who BEAT Vader and wouldn't won had he not been so arrogant)? No, so it will be very alien to Vader. Vader's form on the other hand is just a variation of Form 5.
Your stupidity and ignorance is getting
very disturbing.
Vader is not aware of a tenth of the lightsaber styles? The how come the rise of darth vader states that vaders lightsaber style has several different forms in it?
However, Vader was able to overcome this limitation fairly quickly, developing a refined version of Djem So that continued to include Ataru and Soresu elements, but also added Makashi and Juyoto the mix. With this new form, Vader regained some of his old agility, and his bladework was brutally effective, being crisp and unpredictable.
^ This may be from wookiepedia, but the actual source material is in RODV(its sad i no longer have the book) and i have read the novel myself and this has been CONFIRMED.
So really, combining elements of several forms into a singular lightsaber form takes considerable skills to do so.
Seriously, your an idiot and a perpetual liar.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And when did I say that Kas'im tools Vader in sabers? Stop making up stuff.
Ok, provided you shut the hell up.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
He doesn't. But he DOES beat Vader in sabers.
Fair enough, but he does not vastly surpass vader in sabers but sadly vader surpass him vastly in the force.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And your argument is basically "oh Vader uins cose heh jast blo Kas'im up wath Force!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
No it isn't, its just sad you don't know how to read and just desperate to win by lying and making up shit that vader is ignorant in the force and only has knowledge on one lightsaber form.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Explain how Vader can beat Kas'im up with the force so badly.
Explain to me how rahm kota and kento marek got beaten so badly in the force, kento had
ample time to throw up defences yet he still gets overwhelmed.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
And explain why Vader doesn't do this to every opponent that he faces that's inferior in the force.
Explain to me why sidious doesn't use a force storm(ot other devastating dark side techniques) every single time he faces opponents that's inferior in the force.
Explain to me why kreia doesn't "insta kill" everybody she comes across.
Its called inconsistency or personal preference, there are individuals that simply choose to engage their enemies in a lightsaber duel of their own will or always use the force.