What's wrong with Zoom travelling back in time? I mean, when Jay was first explaining Zoom's powerset, he said that it would be possible for Zoom to move forward, and backward in time - and to any degree he wanted. *shrug*
Anyhow, for those still arguing that Superman could react fast enough to defend against, and/or hit Zoom (in his initial onslaught,) you seriously need to remember how his baseline powerset works. Zoom is contained within his own personal 'time-bubble'. This 'time-bubble' is completely disconnected, and most importantly, ahead of, DC's 'main' timeline. This means that even if Superman could react instantly, he'd only be reacting instantly in DC's 'main' timeline. So by the very nature of Zoom's powerset, he would always be ahead of Superman - no matter how fast Supes was moving.
Ohh, and P.S. - LULZ @ the people saying E2 Supes 'took out'/'one shotted' Zoom during IC #7. durlaugh
Originally posted by Galan007
[B]*shrug*
Are you depressed or something? Seems there's always a "Meh" or "Shrug" after your posts. Just curious.
Originally posted by Galan007
[B]Anyhow, for those still arguing that Superman could react fast enough to defend against, and/or hit Zoom (in his initial onslaught,) you seriously need to remember how his baseline powerset works. Zoom is contained within his own personal 'time-bubble'. This 'time-bubble' is completely disconnected, and most importantly, ahead of, DC's 'main' timeline. This means that even if Superman could react instantly, he'd only be reacting instantly in DC's 'main' timeline. So by the very nature of Zoom's powerset, he would always be ahead of Superman - no matter how fast Supes was moving.
Strangely enough, he still hets tagged/punched in the present. So that's still pretty null and void. Seems even the writers can't figure out exactly how his powerset work, so a speedster he'll stay.
Originally posted by Galan007
[B]Ohh, and P.S. - LULZ @ the people saying E2 Supes 'took out'/'one shotted' Zoom during IC #7.
LULZ @ those saying that Zoom wins even though he hasn't even KO'd WW...nevermind Superman who even with sucker punches, he wasn't more than an annoyance...
Originally posted by AvlonMeh, you're starting to dig deep here, so there's really no reason to continue 'debating' with you. *shrug*
Are you depressed or something? Seems there's always a "Meh" or "Shrug" after your posts. Just curious.Strangely enough, he still hets tagged/punched in the present. So that's still pretty null and void. Seems even the writers can't figure out exactly how his powerset work, so a speedster he'll stay.
LULZ @ those saying that Zoom wins even though he hasn't even KO'd WW...nevermind Superman who even with sucker punches, he wasn't more than an annoyance...
Originally posted by Galan007
If covers equalled full proof evidence, you'd be correct (but they don't.)
I was being sarcastic, because the cover actually isn't any kind of evidence, and saying that it's more useful than the E-2 Superman instance was my way of saying that instance doesn't really prove anything.
The anger is clouding your judgement. uhuh
Originally posted by PhilosophíaOhh I knew what you were getting at. However, I was waiting for some fanboy to try and use the cover for evidence. That post was directed at said person(s).
I was being sarcastic, because the cover actually isn't any kind of evidence, and saying that it's more useful than the E-2 Superman instance was my way of saying that instance doesn't really prove anything.The anger is clouding your judgement. uhuh
Wise up. vegetajv2
I'm not even close to someone who knows a ton about Zoom, but his power's don't make sense. If he's "ahead" of everyone as much as he wants to be, then theoretically, he should never be hit because he'd be dodging them before they even actually threw a punch. Yet, because Flash can go up to and past lightspeed, he does manage to hit him. YET, somehow he can phase through solid matter? Which he shouldn't be able to do since from Zoom's perspective, he's moving at normal human speed.
I've gone through his respect thread(not all the way through) and just can't figure out how his power really works.
That said, from what I've seen and Wonder Bra saying his punches hurt more than Sups, I'd say Zoom should be able to take this.
Originally posted by Captain NapalmWell read it again, because he was phasing in his fight with Bart.
Zoom was moving so fast even Wally couldn't see him. Even after taking all of Jay and Bart's speed Zoom was just a blur to Flash. He had to absorb Jesse's force to keep up with him.And I don't remember Zoom phasing in Trinity 31 or his fight with Bart.