Combat Speed/Reflex Contest of Top-tiers

Originally posted by Starscream M
wouldn't that make Tony's flight speed faster than light speed?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the Werth.

still that means Tony travels up to 1/2 of lightspeed...that's friggin fast. more likely the writer messed up.

Originally posted by Starscream M
they've all dodged bullets from a couple feat away, which is harder than dodging a missile

Originally posted by Enyalus
...Missile = Big.

Bullet = Small.

Bigger = more target area to hit.

Smaller = less target area to hit.

Similar speeds with both.

Soooo...?

Smaller objects at higher velocity are harder the avoid then a large objects though?

Originally posted by Starscream M
ah ok...thought it took longer

still that means Tony travels up to 1/2 of lightspeed...that's friggin fast. more likely the writer messed up.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ah ok...thought it took longer

still that means Tony travels up to 1/2 of lightspeed...that's friggin fast. more likely the writer messed up.

Yeah, for some reason people seem to think Tony is only a couple notches above mach 3 for some reason. Anyhow yeah I was referring to SS nothing having movmemnt speed beyond a peak human...but even then i've seen Bruce and Batgirl appear invisibly fast.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
It was never a specified time frame, and Tony didn't even come close to the sun iirc.

Yes he did, where are you getting this?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Smaller objects at higher velocity are harder the avoid then a large objects though?

What exactly is the debate here?

if the question is whether Surfer has super fast reflexes, beyond peak human...then I think the answer is unquestionably yes. To travel at light speed in space and avoid hitting space debris, you need at super fast reflexes.

if the question is whether Surfer can attack in a speed-blitz in the manner of speedsters, then there doesn't seem to be evidence for that.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yes he did, where are you getting this?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So if Tony flies at FTL speed and can use the speed of his jet offensivly does that constitute bodily movement speed.

you just missed the point ENTIRELY.

Originally posted by Mindset
Bullets are not faster than missiles.

missles take some time to accelerate to its maximum velocity whereas bullets gain their maximum velocity instantly due to their different methods of propulsion.

Originally posted by Starscream M
What exactly is the debate here?

if the question is whether Surfer has super fast reflexes, beyond peak human...then I think the answer is unquestionably yes. To travel at light speed in space and avoid hitting space debris, you need at super fast reflexes.

if the question is whether Surfer can attack in a speed-blitz in the manner of speedsters, then there doesn't seem to be evidence for that.

The argument is if SS has superspeed movement, as in "can he move his body at superfast pace"like speedsters. I already said he can move fast offensily and defensily with the aid of his boards speed, but that he doesn't have speedster level body movement.

Originally posted by Starscream M
at close range it would be.

missles take some time to accelerate to its maximum velocity whereas bullets gain their maximum velocity instantly due to their different methods of propulsion.

Just because missile far exceed the speed of a bullet later in its flight does not mean a missile is slower than a bullet at close range.

Some bullets aren't even supersonic

Originally posted by Mindset
If you're talking about the fight with the Collective, then no, Tony didn't go to the sun.

I think he did, well it was him and sentry that both went there.

Originally posted by Raoul
you just missed the point ENTIRELY.

No, I get what you're saying.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I think he did, well it was him and sentry that both went there.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
No, I get what you're saying.

you don't. your answer proved that.

the board isn't a mode of transportation. it's like an extra limb.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yes he did, where are you getting this?

And Sentry getting back to Earth a lot later when he was shown to be ahead of Iron Man during their trip.

Originally posted by Mindset
Give me one credible source that backs up your claim.

Just because missile far exceed the speed of a bullet later in its flight does not mean a missile is slower than a bullet at close range.

Some bullets aren't even supersonic

Dude, the method of propulsion makes bullets at full speed instantly. A missle requires distance to attain maxim velocity.