Originally posted by Starscream MThat's what I've been asking you to show, since you them bullets > missiles at short range.
what exactly is a missile's speed say at 10 to 20 feet from moment of fire? I couldn't find the info. If you know, then post it. Since I think its speed at short distance is vastly different from the speed it eventually reaches, it's maximum speed.
Originally posted by The Great GalenLet's see if this actually goes through your head.
Well it's you're fault for considering SS's board as a extension of his limbs 😄
Surfer controls his board. He controls how fast it goes. He controls where it turns. He controls how it moves. He controls every aspect about his board just by standing on it. If he falls on it, he can call it back mentally. If he wants, he can control it like a remote control airplane, and use it to knock Hulk the fudge out. It is absolutely an extension of him.
The only control Thor has on Mjolnir is that the harder he throws it, the faster it goes. And that it can come back to him. That's how he travels, in a straight line. And to turn, he has to re-toss it in the way he wants to go.
A terrible comparison... terrible.
Originally posted by Mindsetcertain issues affect us more than others, hence disagreements over religion and politics tend to get more heated than disagreements over say what tastes good or what comic book character is faster
It doesn't matter what the discussion is about, an annoyance is an annoyance, whether we are talking about politics or the weather.
Originally posted by Starscream MWhich is why I didn't call you an idiot, because you annoyed me, but it wasn't that important.
certain issues affect us more than others, hence disagreements over religion and politics tend to get more heated than disagreements over say what tastes good or what comic book character is faster
Originally posted by I'm BranThe only control Thor has on Mjolnir is that the harder he throws it, the faster it goes. And that it can come back to him. That's how he travels, in a straight line. And to turn, he has to re-toss it in the way he wants to go.
wait off-topic but, I thought Thor didn't need Mjolnir to fly?
Originally posted by I'm Bran
Let's see if this actually goes through your head.Surfer controls his board. He controls how fast it goes. He controls where it turns. He controls how it moves. He controls every aspect about his board just by standing on it. If he falls on it, he can call it back mentally. If he wants, he can control it like a remote control airplane, and use it to knock Hulk the fudge out.
The only control Thor has on Mjolnir is that the harder he throws it, the faster it goes. And that it can come back to him. That's how he travels, in a straight line. And to turn, he has to re-toss it in the way he wants to go.
A terrible comparison... terrible.
Thor can control mjolnir remotly if I'm not mistaken, and even if it isn't to the same variety as SS...would anybody honestly it consider it a extension of his movment. We would'nt consider a GL construct moving fast as movment speed for GL inspite of his complete control over the construct...why do it with SS.
The Surfer has shown, at least on one occasion, nanosec reflexes. It just doesn't fit his signature fighting style for it to be seen more often. But given all that the power cosmic can do, it seems entirely logical to be within his abilities.
I've never seen Superman pee, but I'm sure he could take out an orbiting satellite. It just logically fits the powerset.
I would say this: those speedsters who do blitz on a regular basis should have much more experience with that kind of attack than the Surfer (especially if they're trained h2h fighters). All else being equal, it would make sense for the Surfer to lose in a speedblitz contest. But that he's incapable of it? For me, that just doesn't make sense (but then, neither does Norrin's dropping like a stone every time he's knocked offboard).
Originally posted by I'm BranI'm not sure, thats why I asked
When did this happen?The only time I remember any sort of alluded flying was when he jumped up to beat up Loki and Fenris, and when he can float in space after throwing Mjolnir...
I seem to have vague recollections of him hovering without Mjolnir...but prob remembered wrong
Originally posted by The Great GalenHe can only recall it back to him...
Thor can control mjolnir remotly if I'm not mistaken, and even if it isn't to the same variety as SS...would anybody honestly it consider it a extension of his movment. We would'nt consider a GL construct moving fast as movment speed for GL inspite of his complete control over the construct.
Surfer does everything he does on his board through his own mind. Maneuvers, dodging things within microseconds, etc.
If it's only straight line travel speed, then no, not in battle. However, if the GL is able to hit fast objects, or make his construct maneuver around speedy fast accurately, then yes.