Originally posted by The Great Galensomeone please ban this troll.
I'm not saying they couldn't wreck a building...most meta's can accomplish that obviously. I was simply stating that the particular shots that almost destroyed SS didn't look powerful enough to even destroy a tank.....just a simple observation.
your complete disregard of everything marvel is pretty sad, and the board suffers the longer you keep this up.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
someone please ban this troll.your complete disregard of everything marvel is pretty sad, and the board suffers the longer you keep this up.
How is it a disregard for marvel....hell I personally believe Hank at base could take 6/10 agaisnt SS but I think it would be a difficult fight and I could even be argued to a 5/5. Thw only thing I've been saying is that using a planet destroying shot to suggest Hank can easily be KO'ed completly undermines the times he has endured blast that are easily 100 times the potency of a planet buster.....I dont like selective showins to a prove a argument and that goes both way. The simple truth is that the times SS has been KOéd....not every shot was even shown or stated as enough to wreck a city. Colliteral damage is misleading....its as simple as that.
Originally posted by AvlonYou know this? Why did you say that Silver Surfer never opened a black hole in another character on-panel before then? Don't backtrack. You got it wrong, you got it wrong. Move on.
I know this. It's still a far cry from pulling off a maneuver in battle which is YOUR claim. So prove it.Funny, SS has been KO'd by such attacks himself. Henshaw simply heals/upgrades and keeps going... He's also had examples of it being outright stolen or tampered with where he couldn't take it right back...
You can play it if you want. Trust me, there is PLENTY of low end stuff for Surfer. Funny should should bring this up and then say...drivel like this considering I usually go middle ground and you make up ridiculous scenarios in your fanboy mind... I've stated SS and Henshaw have ways to beat each other. You put your hands over your ears and yell "Nuh uh!, my silver god can't be beat!!!"
I agree with this. You obviously haven't given credit to Surfer's healing feats however. As for the Power Cosmic, like I said, "Silver Surfer has more resisting/overpowering over energy absorption feats than he succumbs to it." Numbers game works in Surfer's favor. And some of those energy-absorbers were far superior to Henshaw. And who said Surfer curbstomps Henshaw? Not I. I agree it'd be tough for Surfer, but not so tough that he just ekes out the majority. Whereas you and your ilk have Henshaw easily beating or laughing him off because you can't stop yourself from using BPvSS PIS or non-canon sources every other post.
Originally posted by AvlonSurfer is powerful but not absolutely invulnerable...gee, both these guys should have tactics that would work on each other. I never thought otherwise. My posts are usually quite derogatory towards yours because the "tactics that would work on each other," which you bring up are almost wholly based on BPvSS, laser pistols, crossovers and a general hatred of Silver Surfer. Get over it.
It would surprise me more to see you bring up.."Surfer is powerful but not absolutely invulnerable...gee, both these guys should have tactics that would work on each other." But yea...that would require you to use common sense.
Originally posted by AvlonOops. You lie:
I asked you to show this in mid-battle, not to create a black hole in relatively peaceful positions where he has time to and can keep going.
Originally posted by AvlonYou said it never happened. You also said it never happened especially on-panel. You got proven wrong, so what? Stop acting like you won that little point despite how obviously wrong you are. Get over it and just move on. Not that important.
By your example, since it's never happened on panel, it's bordenline trolling. It's never happened, especially not in mid battle.
Originally posted by AvlonDaredevil. Bullseye. Elektra. Think about it.
ABC logic when 3 peers are being debated? Are you even serious about this?
Originally posted by AvlonI proved that Silver Surfer on-panel opened up a black hole in another character's body. That's what I said. That's what you disbelieved. I proved it. Don't try straw-man with me. I quoted you. It's clear. Now show me a post-Crisis GL blowing up a planet on-panel. It never happened, especially in the heat of battle. This is exactly what I am saying, so prove it.
But you haven't proven anything. Especially, anything that I didn't already know. I've asked for this in the heat of battle, especially against a moving opponent. Not a stationary dying guy with plenty of time to set off a timed attack.
Originally posted by AvlonPost the scan where they talk about the Highmas-
I stated precisely what was on panel. The ring is classified as a planet destroying weapon. I also told you were it can be found. Try reading it again. "The Highmaster amplifies our power 100 times over" with 2 GL's inside. Let me know when SS can match a 200x amped GL.
-ah forget it. We both know you won't, so I'll do it for you. The Highmasters themselves are walking planet-destroyers when they amplify a GL's energy. Of course, for the most part, they blow up the planet, sort of. Actually... not really. So two GL's powered over 200X and they couldn't even reduce the planet to dust:
Originally posted by AvlonThat would imply that they expended a certain amount of power they felt would incinerate him and underestimated his durability.
Hmm...the guardian made reference to incinerating him right before the blast... gee...what would THAT imply?I've never stated anything of the sort. The same applies to Surfer though. Herald levelers have hurt him/ko/beaten him before. I sincerely suggest you take off the fanboy glasses, relax, and try a real debate.
So then why bring it up that a Guardian can destroy a planet but failed to destroy Henshaw? How about you stop acting like I haven't exposed your faulty associations. Your false bravado is extremely unflattering because you should be smarter than this and move onto substance over attitude.
Originally posted by AvlonOops. You saw I had "dumb" in my name. Wow. I was hoping you wouldn't see that. I am now totally demoralized and have more than adequately accounted for your faulty logic by insulting me with my own username. The wittiness of the retort is too much to bear. All is lost!!!!!!!1111
I suggest you stop pretending to be more intelligent than you are... get it "ONEDUMB?"In other words... a strawman argument in which you have convinced yourself of something despite it never have actually been stated. Good show ol' chum. I never said a human gun either. You are oversimplifying. See how easy that is? 🙂
It is easy. Glad to have taught you something. At least you acknowledge that it's superior than a human gun. Now that you know, let's see if you can learn to stop using straw-man argumentation.
Originally posted by AvlonI'm stating the rules and insisting that you stop using non-canon sources. I don't have to be a mod to do that. You continue to rely on non-canon sources and SPvFL PIS and I've continually proven my statements correct with on-panel proof and continually proved your statements to be misleading or just dead wrong. Who's being ridiculous now? And with you on the other side with your appeal to generalizations and derisions instead of a plainly decent argument, it's not too hard finding myself on the other side of that.
Last I remember, you aren't, nor will ever be...a mod. I suggest you remember your place buddy boy. I happen to agree with that particular representation whether it's part of their official history or not. You have your fanboyish views of a Surfer that doesn't exist anywhere but your mind.+1 some kind of reasonable non smvfl on panel representation from the company.
-1 Onedumbs ridiculous assessment and one sided views.
Originally posted by AvlonStraw-man. Boy, you forgot already? Never said Surfer can amp up to 200X GL power. Only that the power to blow up a planet did lead to Henshaw's defeat. As clearly illustrated and described on-panel. The Highmaster power was planet-busting power. Of course, they didn't actually completely destroy the planet, but hey, who cares?
No, trolling is your statement that destroying a planet will KILL Henshaw.
Surfer can destroy a planet...great.. Never denied that. Now the power generated directly on Henshaw is a different story. SS can't generate 200x GL power. Nothing difficult to grasp there.
Originally posted by AvlonHaha. I wonder how many times I've called you out on your lies and busted your myths. I never even called em out on Respect threads. They've been in threads here and there. Maybe I should make a post in that old KMC Mythbuster's Thread about Avlon Myths. Might sorta be fun, if it weren't so damn obvious. "Emo?" Ad hominem. Keep racking it up. Could turn your posts into a seminar on how not to argue.
This has already been refuted either in this thread or respective threads, no clue why you chose to go into a long emo rant for it.
Originally posted by AvlonOh ho! A play on my name! And a cute lil toodles too! Now instead of using your incredible wit to hurt my feelings, you're using it to offer levity to a post that would have otherwise ended with me calling you out on all the lies and myths you've spewed and that I've torn down! How very clever. Nobody will notice. Trly. Srsly.
It sure is....so when are you going to start? I hope I can call you "OneSmart" sometime. 🙂Try not to bore me with another long silly rant now. I hope you don't do this to people irl. Hopefully, it's only forum behavior.
Toodles! 😛
Whoa ho ho!
I get not ONE but TWO whole long winded replies!! Perhaps Bizarro talk would get the point across to you better.
And look, Dumby is attempting to emulate wit.
I may get back to your "retort" or idea thereof at a future time when I'm bored and actually feel like reading through all that.
In the meanwhile... The club and ladies I'm about to go out with are just a tad more important.
I do appreciate the loooooooong amount of time you spent typing all that, reading, and perusing through the hate folder for the scans. Srly, I do. 😉
Toodles!
Originally posted by Enyalus
More trolling from you when you were just told to stop by Raoul in the previous page?Quick learner, aren't ya?
Right like denying on-panel stames from Morrison and arguing thanos could beat FC DS isn't trolling....let me guess u probably think CS would get wrecked by a plentary blast 2 right lol.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right like denying on-panel stames from Morrison and arguing thanos could beat FC DS isn't trolling....
No, it isn't. It's called having an opinion. Backed up with evidence. You need to learn what the definition of trolling is. Anytime someone posts something you disagree with, it's trolling. That's not how it works.
And yes, a non-ringed Cyborg would get wrecked with 1-3 planet-busting shots.
Originally posted by Enyalus
No, it isn't. It's called having an opinion. Backed up with evidence. You need to learn what the definition of trolling is. Anytime someone posts something you disagree with, it's trolling. That's not how it works.And yes, a non-ringed Cyborg would get wrecked with 1-3 planet-busting shots.
You mean backed with misinterpreting evdience and points that continously get refuted.....and funny I seem to remember SS getting 6 shoted by shots that were not even close to planetary in power.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
????? So you conceded, k thanks.
No, I'm just astounded at your ADD-like jumps in faulty logic. Do you honestly think jumping to different, off-topic points instead of defending the arguments you're called out on means you win?
I asked you why you were trolling for no apparent reason, when Raoul had warned you to stop. And you fail to address anything and go off-topic. You also asked me if I believed Henshaw would get messed up if caught in a planet busting attack. And when I replied with a perfectly reasonable "after 1-3 of those attacks" as an answer, you again fail to address anything regarding Surfer's energy output or Henshaw's durability, and instead talk about Surfer's durability out of left-field. As if that had anything to do with the current point-at-hand.
The only reason I'm replying to your post now is to point out how utterly ridiculous all of your supposed 'arguments' are, which consist of nothing but speculation, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequitors. That, and as pointed out above - you failed to defend any point you bring up, in just about any thread you're in. And rather than admit that you're wrong or have been caught in a fabrication, you resort to attacking the poster with some off-topic and totally irrelevant rant about how they are the troll because they don't believe what you do, or even what they have said in regard to other threads with other characters involved. As if all this somehow helps your case.
Newsflash: it doesn't. Come up with something substantial or not at all. If you can't bother to stay on topic of formulate an articulate or coherent argument, I'm going to point it out the ridiculousness of it and leave you to your stellar debating tactics.
Thanks, and have a good night.
