Cyborg Superman vs. Silver Surfer

Started by quanchi11222 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You know this? Why did you say that Silver Surfer never opened a black hole in another character on-panel before then? Don't backtrack. You got it wrong, you got it wrong. Move on.

I agree with this. You obviously haven't given credit to Surfer's healing feats however. As for the Power Cosmic, like I said, "Silver Surfer has more resisting/overpowering over energy absorption feats than he succumbs to it." Numbers game works in Surfer's favor. And some of those energy-absorbers were far superior to Henshaw. And who said Surfer curbstomps Henshaw? Not I. I agree it'd be tough for Surfer, but not so tough that he just ekes out the majority. Whereas you and your ilk have Henshaw easily beating or laughing him off because you can't stop yourself from using BPvSS PIS or non-canon sources every other post.
Surfer is powerful but not absolutely invulnerable...gee, both these guys should have tactics that would work on each other. I never thought otherwise. My posts are usually quite derogatory towards yours because the "tactics that would work on each other," which you bring up are almost wholly based on BPvSS, laser pistols, crossovers and a general hatred of Silver Surfer. Get over it.
Oops. You lie:You said it never happened. You also said it never happened especially on-panel. You got proven wrong, so what? Stop acting like you won that little point despite how obviously wrong you are. Get over it and just move on. Not that important.
Daredevil. Bullseye. Elektra. Think about it.
I proved that Silver Surfer on-panel opened up a black hole in another character's body. That's what I said. That's what you disbelieved. I proved it. Don't try straw-man with me. I quoted you. It's clear. Now show me a post-Crisis GL blowing up a planet on-panel. It never happened, especially in the heat of battle. This is exactly what I am saying, so prove it.
Post the scan where they talk about the Highmas-

-ah forget it. We both know you won't, so I'll do it for you. The Highmasters themselves are walking planet-destroyers when they amplify a GL's energy. Of course, for the most part, they blow up the planet, sort of. Actually... not really. So two GL's powered over 200X and they couldn't even reduce the planet to dust:

Pwned.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Rant

Look son, whenever I get presented with irrefutable scans proving a point I always concede. When NVR was proving WW had movement superspeed I intially opposed him, then he presented the scans and I conceded since his point was proven and I couldn;t debate what was on-panel. The only times I argue or a debate a point is when it is painfully misrepresented, which has been the case with a lot of posters whom I regularly disagree with on this board.

Unlike u I don't apply a double standard ad hoc argument, I argue with feats supported by on-panel scans.....its difficult to argue agaisnt that so don't take ur frustrations on me kid 🙂 .

Originally posted by psycho gundam
someone please ban this troll.

your complete disregard of everything marvel is pretty sad, and the board suffers the longer you keep this up.

don't backseat mod.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Look son, whenever I get presented with irrefutable scans proving a point I always concede. When NVR was proving WW had movement superspeed I intially opposed him, then he presented the scans and I conceded since his point was proven and I couldn;t debate what was on-panel. The only times I argue or a debate a point is when it is painfully misrepresented, which has been the case with a lot of posters whom I regularly disagree with on this board.

Unlike u I don't apply a double standard ad hoc argument, I argue with feats supported by on-panel scans.....its difficult to argue agaisnt that so don't take ur frustrations on me kid 🙂 .

you expect anyone to believe that? seriously?

anyways, everyone, as much as i want to leave this open, it's quickly going downhill. it's goin to be closed unless it picks up.

Originally posted by Raoul
don't backseat mod.

you expect anyone to believe that? seriously?

anyways, everyone, as much as i want to leave this open, it's quickly going downhill. it's goin to be closed unless it picks up.

Why woudln't they believe it, I offer the truth and nothing more....is ur favoritims for other posters clouding ur judgment again, raoul u dissapoint me 🙁

This wont turn out well...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Why woudln't they believe it, I offer the truth and nothing more....is ur favoritims for other postersclouding ur judgment again, raoul u dissapoint me 🙁
Why are you trying to get permabanned?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why are you trying to get permabanned?

Quan I would'nt worry about me right now, better turn back ur opinion on the amazo thread if u dont wanna be gone for good.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Quan I would'nt worry about me right now, better turn back ur opinion on the amazo thread if u dont wanna be gone for good.
Fine.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Why woudln't they believe it, I offer the truth and nothing more....is ur favoritims for other posters clouding ur judgment again, raoul u dissapoint me 🙁

officially warned.

also, ftr, you've been given more second chances than most, so i really recommend you cut out the victim act. it doesn't fly.

Originally posted by Raoul
officially warned.

also, ftr, you've been given more second chances than most, so i really recommend you cut out the victim act. it doesn't fly.

But what am I doing, I don't see why you are constantly coming after me at every turn. These boards are for the purposes of debating right...so I have a opinion and suddenly because it doesn't correspond with posters whom u personally prefer I suddenly get warned and potentially banned?

Edit:I've never had problems with u man, so whats with the sudden hostility?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
But what am I doing, I don't see why you are constantly coming after me at every turn. These boards are for the purposes of debating right...so I have a opinion and suddenly because it doesn't correspond with posters whom u personally prefer I suddenly get warned and potentially banned?

Edit:I've never had problems with u man, so whats with the sudden hostility?

i'm not being hostile, at all.

opinions are one thing, everyone has them (naturally), but there is a difference between opinions and flat out trolling.

i don't e-socialise with anyone in this thread really, so your favouritism argument holds no weight whatsoever. i actually tend to disagree with their opinions on a regular basis.

i am one of only FOUR mods that has warned you in the past, so it's not just me.

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not being hostile, at all.

opinions are one thing, everyone has them (naturally), but there is a difference between opinions and flat out trolling.

i don't e-socialise with anyone in this thread really, so your favouritism argument holds no weight whatsoever. i actually tend to disagree with their opinions on a regular basis.

i am one of only FOUR mods that has warned you in the past, so it's not just me.

Hmm.....don't recall any other warnings. Anyhow Raoul...let's just agree to disagree and be about our biz.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hmm.....don't recall any other warnings. Anyhow Raoul...let's just agree to disagree and be about our biz.

No, it doesnt work that way. You stop trolling, end of story.

Originally posted by Raoul
No, it doesnt work that way. You stop trolling, end of story.

Dude, I'm not trolling...if I was saying "Cyborg pwns SS cause he's the shit"then u would have a point. Saying"Well the fight could go either way but I'm inclined to believe CS could take it 6/5 after a hard fought victory"is not trolling. Simply point, the accusations made agaisnt me do not hold up when u decide to look into what I'm actually saying....simple mistake but its okay misunderstandings do happen.

If that's all you said, then there'd be no reports nor cause to warn you. i read more of your posts than i should have to, frankly...

Originally posted by Mindset
So you made a post just to say you may post a response later?

Nerds don't go to clubs stop lying!

You typed a post just to comment about a response about posting later?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
unless they're supes nerds, they go to ghey clubs. 😛

Guys, get a room. None of that ghey stuff here. 😉

Originally posted by id369
Not certain if this helps, but if IRRC Kyle blew up planet OA or Mogo in order to cut off some of Parallax power in Green Lantern v3
Kyle destroyed Oa to prevent Hallax from absorbing it and replenishing his power in Green Lantern #0. However, IIRC, Kyle didn't just blow up Oa. He shot a beam into the core that caused a chain reaction. Since Oa, the planet, was pretty much a battery in and of itself, the chain reaction blew it up. I'll post scans when I can.

Literally speaking, Kyle did destroy a planet. But technically speaking, I'm looking for a feat where GL's can do it, without there being some plot-device massive energy chain reaction due to the planet's composition. If that sounds unfair, I think an appropriate analogy to what Kyle did would be throwing a match into a powderkeg or micro-waving a battery. You can let me know if you disagree.

Green lanterns don't go around breaking planets apart its pretty much like superman your practically never going to find a scan of it,they oneshot large asteroids and kyle annihilated a moon once but thats about the extent they are going to just go blowing shit up with,however we have seen them do just fine against people with that kind of power we have seen their shields stand up to that kind of power,we have things like john stewart trying to remake a solar system ect ect.

Hal has also taken a ion energy amped nero down in one blast when he wanted to which is a rather big feat considering neros regular shields are about equal to any of the good gls,current gls just seem to be getting screwed though.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Green lanterns don't go around breaking planets apart its pretty much like superman your practically never going to find a scan of it,they oneshot large asteroids and kyle annihilated a moon once but thats about the extent they are going to just go blowing shit up with,however we have seen them do just fine against people with that kind of power we have seen their shields stand up to that kind of power,we have things like john stewart trying to remake a solar system ect ect.

Hal has also taken a ion energy amped nero down in one blast when he wanted to which is a rather big feat considering neros regular shields are about equal to any of the good gls,current gls just seem to be getting screwed though.

Silver Surfer and Beta Ray Bill don't really go around busting planets apart for the fun of it either, but we've seen them do it. I don't remember Kyle ever annihilating a moon. John Stewart got his tuckus rocked by a single Superman punch. John Stewart tried to remake a solar system and completely failed because such a feat exceeded his ring's capabilities. Completely. Failed. He managed to make amorphous gobs of plasma energy and that's about it.

Taking down Nero means nothing to me unless it's clear that only a planet-busting shot could take down Nero. And I tire of the whole "Geoff Johns has been nerfing Green Lanterns" complaints. I've started seeing this nonsense littered in several threads. His writing is entirely consistent with post-Crisis continuity. Green Lanterns are some of the most misunderstood comic characters here on KMC. Post-Crisis GL "big feats" have been mischaracterized and exaggerated and mixed up with pre-Crisis feats ad infinitum. Just to get something straight, it doesn't even appear that post-Crisis GL's possess some of the more standard Herald-type abilities, e.g. energy absorption, different energy replication, etc. That fact may be surprising to most here, and might inevitably be blamed on Geoff Johns, but that's how it's been post-Crisis. As for planet-busting capability, I understand that absence of evidence might not be evidence of absence. But when you consider that a 100XGL Highmaster didn't even disintegrate a single planet, don't expect me to take the idea of a "planet-busting GL" seriously without a single scan of proof over the past 30 years of GL continuity.

John stewart provided the outline for the entire solar system,john stewarts shield have protected not only himself but another from a supernova and showed no sign of being drained or anything,high tier gls withstand planet destroying forces all the time hell sodam yats survived it with low energy in his ring,the fact is that they have been nerfed a lot,a regular nero used to take it to high tier gls...he then had a good amping against hal and hal was still able to take him down in one shot so yes I would say thats planet destroying force,and im sorry but lololol at someone getting a construct shattered by freaking superman making them weak.

Gls are more about concentrated efforts and constructs then going around blasting shit thats pretty much how they have always been and I think a real problem they have thesedays is those rings carry a pathetic charge compared to what they used to be it seems like even flying galactic distances takes up a hefty ring chage these days.