Cyborg Superman vs. Silver Surfer

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Silver Surfer and Beta Ray Bill don't really go around busting planets apart for the fun of it either, but we've seen them do it. I don't remember Kyle ever annihilating a moon. John Stewart got his tuckus rocked by a single Superman punch. John Stewart tried to remake a solar system and completely failed because such a feat exceeded his ring's capabilities. Completely. Failed. He managed to make amorphous gobs of plasma energy and that's about it.

Taking down Nero means nothing to me unless it's clear that only a planet-busting shot could take down Nero. And I tire of the whole "Geoff Johns has been nerfing Green Lanterns" complaints. I've started seeing this nonsense littered in several threads. His writing is entirely consistent with post-Crisis continuity. Green Lanterns are some of the most misunderstood comic characters here on KMC. Post-Crisis GL "big feats" have been mischaracterized and exaggerated and mixed up with pre-Crisis feats ad infinitum. Just to get something straight, it doesn't even appear that post-Crisis GL's possess some of the more standard Herald-type abilities, e.g. energy absorption, different energy replication, etc. That fact may be surprising to most here, and might inevitably be blamed on Geoff Johns, but that's how it's been post-Crisis. As for planet-busting capability, I understand that absence of evidence might not be evidence of absence. But when you consider that a 100XGL Highmaster didn't even disintegrate a single planet, don't expect me to take the idea of a "planet-busting GL" seriously without a single scan of proof over the past 30 years of GL continuity.

This entire post is complete bias against Green Lanterns. 👇

Supes smashing a construct is a low showing? John Stewart failing to recreate a solar system is a low showing? And btw, the explanation for that one is BS and should be ignored as it contradicts established fact.

Biot was a cybernetic world created by the manhunters and powered by GLs. Your attempt to demean the feat is insulting.

And lowballing Alex Nero? Epic lulz.

And in case no one pointed this out to you, baka, PRE-CRISIS IS CANON FOR THE GLC.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This entire post is complete bias against Green Lanterns. 👇

Supes smashing a construct is a low showing? John Stewart failing to recreate a solar system is a low showing? And btw, the explanation for that one is BS and should be ignored as it contradicts established fact.

Biot was a cybernetic world created by the manhunters and powered by GLs. Your attempt to demean the feat is insulting.

And lowballing Alex Nero? Epic lulz.

And in case no one pointed this out to you, baka, PRE-CRISIS IS CANON FOR THE GLC.

How does it being a cybernetic planet change anything? The Highmaster didn't blow up the planet. On-panel. Your attempt to misconstrue the clear presentation of a Highmaster's planet-destroying capability would be insulting if it had a lick of sense. 100X GL powered Highmaster. As stated several times, planet-busting capability. Didn't even completely destroy a planet. Go write your Congressman if you're so bent out of shape over it.

Who lowballed Alex Nero? You managed to use straw-man argumentation for every single one of my points. Which clearly suggests you can't even tackle them directly. Let alone all the other points in my post you wish to ignore. And pre-Crisis feats are not canon for GLs simply because they remember events. Power Girl remembers events, she does not have pre-Kryptonian power. Take your logical fallacies, sweeping generalizations, unsupported claims and bias where it belongs. In the garbage.

And again top tier green lantern shields have held up to planet destroying and beyond and top tier lanterns have shattered said shields,the manhunter planet was far from normal stop acting like it wasn't.

"Top tier GL" you mean Kyle, the only gl that comes to mind and i believed his power ring is far differ than say the rest, the others never seen them achieved said so feats..

Ah GL v3 #0 (reboot). Its still impressive, since it was the ring’s energy that overloaded the battery or in this case the Planets Core. I would think, that it is within reason for Kyle to repeat the same feat on a regular planet.

Though this type of planet busting is the most preferred. To me this is a casual planet buster.

Hey what's that guys name again? One in the second set of pics that Shaman nate fought?

Originally posted by Ambient
Hey what's that guys name again? One in the second set of pics that Shaman nate fought?

Qabiri

just fyi, for anyone, GL's weren't changed during the crisis, so it's more a distinction between writers than treating the characters as being somehow rebooted...

not saying anyone is or isn't, just saying in general.

Originally posted by Raoul
just fyi, for anyone, GL's weren't changed during the crisis, so it's more a distinction between writers than treating the characters as being somehow rebooted...

not saying anyone is or isn't, just saying in general.

What is the distinction between a retcon and a reboot? The line looks vary gray for the GL.

'ahh yahh thnx... No wonder i couldn't remember it..

Originally posted by id369
What is the distinction between a retcon and a reboot? The line looks vary gray for the GL.

retcon = hal overcoming rather than not having any fear

reboot = what john byrne did with superman.

Originally posted by Raoul
just fyi, for anyone, GL's weren't changed during the crisis, so it's more a distinction between writers than treating the characters as being somehow rebooted...

not saying anyone is or isn't, just saying in general.

Originally posted by Ambient
Even GL's PC era Hal really never displayed that kind of power, infact the rings weakness was far more; alpha ray, magnetic fields to name a few course bar the yellow weakness

they had some very decent high showings, though.

also, afaik, the only difference between kyle's ring and a normal ring was the lack of a yellow weakness.

Originally posted by Raoul
they had some very decent high showings, though.

also, afaik, the only difference between kyle's ring and a normal ring was the lack of a yellow weakness.

It was specifically mentioned by Ganthet that it is the last and most powerfull ring by that i take it as an upgrade from the rest.. Its the strength of will that overcomes the yellow weakness, it just means Kyles has greater will power than say Hal..

Originally posted by Ambient
Have to disagree w/ yahh in there Raoul..

It was specifically mentioned by Ganthet that it is the last and most powerfull ring by that i take it as an upgrade from the rest.. Its the strength of will that overcomes the yellow weakness, it just means Kyles has greater will power than say Hal..

There was no mention, just a speculation on my part but the ring's yellow weakness is dependent on one's willpower to fight it off..

Originally posted by Ambient
Have to disagree w/ yahh in there Raoul..

It was specifically mentioned by Ganthet that it is the last and most powerfull ring by that i take it as an upgrade from the rest.. Its the strength of will that overcomes the yellow weakness, it just means Kyles has greater will power than say Hal..

that was retconned (though im not even sure its true)

the draining of the battery freed parallax completely, meaning he could no longer taint gl rings. thats why kyle's ring could work on yellow.

Originally posted by Ambient
There was no mention, just a speculation on my part but the ring's yellow weakness is dependent on one's willpower to fight it off..

Originally posted by Raoul
that was retconned (though im not even sure its true)

the draining of the battery freed parallax completely, meaning he could no longer taint gl rings. thats why kyle's ring could work on yellow.

Didnt that weakness showed up in GL rebirth mini again and at this time parallax was out? Fear is in everyone, just like the rest of the five emotions that powers the diff. rings.. The taint is still there, giving into it you become suceptible or powers it like Hal and the rage ring.. course this all speculation 🙂 ..

Originally posted by xJLxKing
AS of now, Hal Jordan is the best GL.