Originally posted by vlaaad12345
infinity upon infinity,surfer is not beating superman in the middle of the sun without using weaknesses.
Originally posted by Enyalus
No it doesn't. No where does it ever, in OWAW, say that Imperiex's power is the Big Bang, or anything similar. It says he was going to destroy Earth-One and that would trigger a new, multiversal Big Bang.Surfer's base is already above Hulk's.
Outrageous Bullshit.
He started several big bangs on panel.
Originally posted by Estacado
Imperiex creating a Big Bang(destroys and recreates the Universe after restarts the process all over again)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-28.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/3-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/4-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/5-15.jpg
Originally posted by Estacado
Imperiex releasing the Big Bang
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-29.jpg
"If I destroy Brainiac 13 Imperiex collapses the Universe and sets of the Big Bang. If I leave Imperiex be ,Braniac takes over the Universe planet ny planet"
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-20.jpg
Originally posted by Estacado
"I cannot be destroyed Superman. If it isn't you ,it will be someone else after Brainiac 13 murdered billions. I am not evil Superman I am nature
Come back.Free me.Help me fix this broken world.Let me end the pain of this corrupt Universe. I can hollow it all and unleash a new beginning and perhaps the next Universe will get it right."
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-32.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-23.jpg
One stupid goof by the writers<<<The rest of the story.
"
You do know that Brainiac 13 was transported back 14 billion years to the bigbang.. It wasn't even the imperiex energies that was the bigbang but the bigbang in itself was the catalyst of imperiex's universe..."
The freaking panel says it was 2 big bangs going off next to each other. 😐
Originally posted by Ambient
You do know that Brainiac 13 was transported back 14 billion years to the bigbang.. It wasn't even the imperiex energies that was the bigbang but the bigbang in itself was the catalyst of imperiex's universe...
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I have 2 questions...has Surfer amped his physical stats in any recent arcs? Because all I've seen is Surfer amping himself to match Thing's strength. Obviously there must be more instances where he has done it...and has he amped himself to achieve the high end strength feats from the other top tiers like superman/thor?
No. It's made up Surfer fanboy bullsh*t as usual.
It's not like Superman amped to fight Dominus or anything. 😱
Plus Surfer didn't just amp up, he needed a plot device that has never been shown again after that arc.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Read it again buddy,that was imperiexes and the orig big bangs powers combining.
The scan you posted, Vlaaad...for one, it wasn't solely Imperiex's power. It was B-13's and Warworld's...and as you pointed out to me, B-13 was an omni-temporal threat along with Imperiex. Secondly, Superman's not caught in the explosion at all. He pushes B-13 Warworld through the Boomtube. He doesn't go through it himself. So it isn't a durability feat, either.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Outrageous Bullshit.He started several big bangs on panel.
facepalm
The "Imperiex creating a Big Bang(destroys and recreates the Universe after restarts the process all over again)" scans don't show him releasing a Big Bang. They show the Big Bang happening, with Imperiex being born out of it, and then skip ahead to the then present day (2001)...with lines from Genesis thrown in.
The "Imperiex releasing the Big Bang" scan also doesn't show him releasing the Big Bang. It shows him releasing his energy, which, as I had already posted - was the energy of the galaxies he had already absorbed. They were going to siphon all of it back into those empty galaxies when B-13 steals it. So clearly that wasn't a Big Bang's worth of energy, otherwise those galaxies AND Earth woulda been ****ed.
The "If I destroy Brainiac 13 Imperiex collapses the Universe and sets of the Big Bang" scan simply states what I've been saying and is backed up on panel - that being, if Earth-One was destroyed, it would trigger a new, multiversal Big Bang because of the Earth-One being the keystone of the entire multiverse. It mentions nothing about his personal energies.
The last two "I can hollow it all and unleash a new beginning" scans refer to the same thing as above. It's why he was heading to Earth in the first place, after Superman drew his attention to that region of space.
Originally posted by Raoul
That's word for word direct from the horse's mouth. imo it backs up what's on panel rather than contradicts it.
How would that not contradict it, when it would be a Big Bang's worth of entropy....and the heroes wanted to use it to restore the galaxies that had already been destroyed.
I call BS. Proof that DC doesn't read their own shit.
Originally posted by Enyalus
How would that not contradict it, when it would be a Big Bang's worth of entropy....and the heroes wanted to use it to restore the galaxies that had already been destroyed.I call BS. Proof that DC doesn't read their own shit.
or you're just not reading owaw properly... awesome
Originally posted by Enyalus
The scan you posted, Vlaaad...for one, it wasn't solely Imperiex's power. It was B-13's and Warworld's...and as you pointed out to me, B-13 was an omni-temporal threat along with Imperiex. Secondly, Superman's not caught in the explosion at all. He pushes B-13 Warworld through the Boomtube. He doesn't go through it himself. So it isn't a durability feat, either.facepalm
The "Imperiex creating a Big Bang(destroys and recreates the Universe after restarts the process all over again)" scans don't show him releasing a Big Bang. They show the Big Bang happening, with Imperiex being born out of it, and then skip ahead to the then present day (2001)...with lines from Genesis thrown in.
The "Imperiex releasing the Big Bang" scan also doesn't show him releasing the Big Bang. It shows him releasing his energy, which, as I had already posted - was the energy of the galaxies he had already absorbed. They were going to siphon all of it back into those empty galaxies when B-13 steals it. So clearly that wasn't a Big Bang's worth of energy, otherwise those galaxies AND Earth woulda been ****ed.
The "If I destroy Brainiac 13 Imperiex collapses the Universe and sets of the Big Bang" scan simply states what I've been saying and is backed up on panel - that being, if Earth-One was destroyed, it would trigger a new, multiversal Big Bang because of the Earth-One being the keystone of the entire multiverse. It mentions nothing about his personal energies.
The last two "I can hollow it all and unleash a new beginning" scans refer to the same thing as above. It's why he was heading to Earth in the first place, after Superman drew his attention to that region of space. [/B]
-----wtf?
Originally posted by Raoul
or you're just not reading owaw properly... awesome
I mean, you've got this, which clearly explains why they want to crack Imperiex's armor, what is in his armor, and what they'll do once they crack his armor:
http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/?action=view¤t=OWAW_Imperiexenergy1.jpg
And these results were verified by Earth scientists AND New God scientists...
Then:
1. http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/?action=view¤t=B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78104.jpg
2. http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/?action=view¤t=B21-All-OutWar-ActionComics78105.jpg
Showing that destroying Earth is how Imperiex intends to unleash the Big Bang. If it was already contained in his suit...he'd f*cking tear it off himself.
....BTW, Raoul, good buddy...can you keep Skygunner from acting retarded?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS has yet to even amp himself to Thanos level let alone "near PC Supes level". The only situation where he amped himself to a impressive degree was when he matched savage hulk...but if I'm not mistaken there was something in that story arc that affected both of them so they were actually slightly depowered and not at full power.
You have that backwards Galen it's even to PC Level let alone Thanos level. By the way i think this a good fight. I given the slight majority to Supes though via better brawler and I think he would win the fight more times then not. Surfer can blast I just see him overwhelmed first more times then not before he can amp himself enough.
