Sun-dipped Superman vs Amped Silver Surfer: Pure Brawl

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Sun-dipped Superman vs Amped Silver Surfer: Pure Brawl

Originally posted by Starscream M
Superman dips in the Sun's core while Surfer amps his own attributes till they both reach close to their peak levels (as demonstrated in comics). Both are blood-lusted and not holding anything back.

They fight on a giant rocky planet.

This is a pure brawl, both physical and energy attacks are allowed. But Surfer is not allowed to manipulate energy or matter to take advantage of Superman's weaknesses to kryptonite or red sunlight. Who wins?


With both of them supercharged (and no exploiting weaknesses allowed), this basically comes down to who can call forth the most energy. If they go toe to toe, I really don't see the Surfer winning against one of the best - if not the best - brawlers in comicdom. But he still has a variety of matter/energy tricks he can throw against Supes, to make him use up his energy. It may come down to who can outlast who. The Surfer's big advantage is that he can use up his supercharge but still take on ambient cosmic energy, whereas Superman will eventually run out of solar steam.

I think, long-term, I give this to Surfer, but this really can go either way.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Show me surfer ever amping himself to beyond normal superman levels and then he might not get owned in a split second.
Why not look through the pages in this thread?

I'm Bran Dead

Originally posted by Mindset
Why not look through the pages in this thread?

"Originally posted by vlaaad12345"

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by I'm Bran
"Originally posted by vlaaad12345"
Good point.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

No. He's right. I've never seen Surfer amp himself to anywhere near that level. I call BS on Surfer amping to Superman's level of strength, let alone Sundip.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

unilord > superman

skygunner41 I'll be back!
Originally posted by psycho gundam
unilord > superman

spiderman>unilord 😉

darthgoober Senior Member

Trick you never answered my question in regards to our BZ...

Originally posted by darthgoober
You actually used the word hypocrisy, I was laughing at you thinking I was being hypocritical in the amping time I ascribed to each.

Goody, goody... like I said it shouldn't take me more than a day or so, I suspect this thread will still be going...

One question though, are you talking about OWAW Supes vs Unilord Surfer, or current Supes and Surfer amped to OWAW levels(as in this thread and with these stipulations)? Just wondering what feats/showings are valid...

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Ok, so hold on, Silver Surfer, is not allowed to use energy, and matter manipulation, to take advantage, of Kryptonite and Red Solar Radiation weaknesses?

He still has those abilities in the fight though right?

Norrin open's up a black hole in Clark's head.

Superman defeating Norrin even while sun dipped is still highly debatable as Norrin can also increase his strength exponentially, and unlike Superman who would get weaker over time, and lose the charge (He would need to sun dip after a while) Norrin can always use the Power Cosmic, and use ambient energy etc. to constantly augment his physical stats.

Norrin recently has not shown any limit to the amount of energy he can absorb or channel as to my knowledge. Besides at base he is already way over 100 Tons (Marvel unfortunately still uses the 100 Ton scale from the past) etc. (Capable of shrugging of attacks from beings like Hulk as if they were nothing) and can as stated augment his physical stats.

Durability wise? If at base he can take blows from Aegis etc. who are Galactus level and simply beyond Clark's scope of power and live, he can take what Clark can dish out while amped.

This battle is hard to decide, as we do not know the physical limit of either.

Throw in matter manipulation and I give it Norrin though because either way, that gives him the advantage in my opinion.

skygunner41 I'll be back!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ok, so hold on, Silver Surfer, is not allowed to use energy, and matter manipulation, to take advantage, of Kryptonite and Red Solar Radiation weaknesses?

He still has those abilities in the fight though right?

Norrin open's up a black hole in Clark's head.

Superman defeating Norrin even while sun dipped is still highly debatable as Norrin can also increase his strength exponentially, and unlike Superman who would get weaker over time, and lose the charge (He would need to sun dip after a while) Norrin can always use the Power Cosmic, and use ambient energy etc. to constantly augment his physical stats.

Norrin recently has not shown any limit to the amount of energy he can absorb or channel as to my knowledge. Besides at base he is already way over 100 Tons (Marvel unfortunately still uses the 100 Ton scale from the past) etc. (Capable of shrugging of attacks from beings like Hulk as if they were nothing) and can as stated augment his physical stats.

Durability wise? If at base he can take blows from Aegis etc. who are Galactus level and simply beyond Clark's scope of power and live, he can take what Clark can dish out while amped.

This battle is hard to decide, as we do not know the physical limit of either.

Throw in matter manipulation and I give it Norrin though because either way, that gives him the advantage in my opinion.

😑 😬

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ok, so hold on, Silver Surfer, is not allowed to use energy, and matter manipulation, to take advantage, of Kryptonite and Red Solar Radiation weaknesses?

He still has those abilities in the fight though right?

Norrin open's up a black hole in Clark's head.

Superman defeating Norrin even while sun dipped is still highly debatable as Norrin can also increase his strength exponentially, and unlike Superman who would get weaker over time, and lose the charge (He would need to sun dip after a while) Norrin can always use the Power Cosmic, and use ambient energy etc. to constantly augment his physical stats.

Norrin recently has not shown any limit to the amount of energy he can absorb or channel as to my knowledge. Besides at base he is already way over 100 Tons (Marvel unfortunately still uses the 100 Ton scale from the past) etc. (Capable of shrugging of attacks from beings like Hulk as if they were nothing) and can as stated augment his physical stats.

Durability wise? If at base he can take blows from Aegis etc. who are Galactus level and simply beyond Clark's scope of power and live, he can take what Clark can dish out while amped.

This battle is hard to decide, as we do not know the physical limit of either.

Throw in matter manipulation and I give it Norrin though because either way, that gives him the advantage in my opinion.

Entropy. Warworld. B-13. Imperiex Prime. Pre-Crisis level power.

Read the frigging story.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Entropy. Warworld. B-13. Imperiex Prime. Pre-Crisis level power.

Struggling to push a planet whose mass is .17 that of the moon is not PC level power. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Entropy. Warworld. B-13. Imperiex Prime. Pre-Crisis level power.

Read the frigging story.

Entropy?

You're acting as if he was able to take the blast. He was out of the boom tube before the blast.

Yes he pushed War World, impressive to an extent but it is a fairly small planet (It doesn't even classify as a planet does it?) but the thrusters at maximum to make it more impressive, but Norrin has impressive feats as well and has done better.

Imperiex Prime?

😕

The Stranger together with Superman etc. should not be forgotten, and as with all cosmic battles, it was a plot device that ended it to an extent that led to Brainiac and his evil plan.

Either way, that isn't Pre-Crisis Superman powerful.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Let's finish this in an hour or so, Smallville is on.

Spire Senior Member

Though didn't Warworld activate a countermeasure to avoid being moved?

I'm Bran Dead

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Let's finish this in an hour or so, Smallville is on.
That was quite possibly the gheyest thing I've heard in a while.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by Spire
Though didn't Warworld activate a countermeasure to avoid being moved?

Yep...it's thrusters/engines.

skygunner41 I'll be back!
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yep...it's thrusters/engines.

What fuel the engines ?

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by skygunner41
What fuel the engines ?

Imperiex's power.

vlaaad12345 Senior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus
Struggling to push a planet whose mass is .17 that of the moon is not PC level power. Sorry to burst your bubble.

FTL engines backed by a big bang,again actually show surfer reaching anywhere close what a sundipped superman can physically.