Master Cheif runs the Doom Gauntlet

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Actually, the BFG disintegrates within 30 meters of the flash point, and is lethal in 50 meters. This was stated in the weapons holodisk. That easily puts it out of the Fuel rod launchers league.

DC...... Read what he said... He literally said Cheif one-handedly lifted the tank and actually threw it 10 ft

Taken from the Doom 3 UAC briefing of the weapon. Which is being curiously generous, because the blast radius from the weapon seen in-game can't be more than 5.

Also it's inferior to an energy mortar, you can't stop a giant blob of plasma by shooting at it, but according to mentioned briefing you can destroy the BFG9000's projectiles (the microchip housed in the projectile specifically) before it initiates the miniature fusion reaction that causes the explosion itself.

I read that but I thought he was joking and not serious, because that's fairly obviously bullshit.

Originally posted by DarkC
The actual quote itself 'The results of the explosion itself are devastating. Targets within 15 meters of the flashpoint are not likely to survive.'

Taken from the Doom 3 UAC briefing of the weapon. Which is being curiously generous, because the blast radius from the weapon seen in-game can't be more than 5.

Also it's inferior to an energy mortar, you can't stop a giant blob of plasma by shooting at it, but according to mentioned briefing you can destroy the BFG9000's projectiles (the microchip housed in the projectile specifically) before it initiates the miniature fusion reaction that causes the explosion itself.

I read that but I thought he was joking and not serious, because that's fairly obviously bullshit.

#1: My bad, your right, I just had a run through of the game myself to confirm, and your right.

#2: Yeah, but on that same token, neither is the Wraith Blast, nor the FRG... And if you have a look at the BFG shot, it independently foires charged plasma particle streams at any hostile targets it goes near before impact.

#3: Yes, the breifing does say that, but let me mention that in all the years I've played Doom 3, I have never seen in any game single or multi player anyone shoot down a BFG shot. And nobody I know from anywhere has seen it either anywhere... I wonder if it can actually be done. I know that certain projectiles can be shot down (Intercepting Imp Plasma shots with a rifle is a favourite hobby of mine in single games.) But as I've said, even with an MG or Chaingun, Neither I nor anyone else I know has never seen anyone take down a BFG shot.

No, the Wraith mortar projectile itself can't be more than 5m in diameter, but the explosion pictured ingame is like 13-15.

They screwed up the visual physics of that game there, a giant blob of plasma the size of a small car is likely to cause much more damage real-time than just a medium-large patch of scorched ground IMO.

I suppose it is probably difficult or nigh-on-impossible in-game (wouldn't know myself so I will trust you on this one) to actually shoot down a BFG projectile, but as the briefing in Doom 3 did mention it of importance we do have to accept it as a very real possibility; otherwise the UAC wouldn't have bothered mentioning it.

I doubt its likely possible to shoot a tiny chip thats inside this ball of plasma coming towards you at fair speeds while its not only powerful itself in its blast but fireing out beams of energy while its going.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I doubt its likely possible to shoot a tiny chip thats inside this ball of plasma coming towards you at fair speeds while its not only powerful itself in its blast but fireing out beams of energy while its going.

ofc it would be worth mentioning, it just simply says it has a chip inside, but its never been done, and nobody has ever shot one down. Its likely not possible considering the ball of power would disiintegrate most shots fired at it anyway.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ofc it would be worth mentioning, it just simply says it has a chip inside, but its never been done, and nobody has ever shot one down. Its likely not possible considering the ball of power would disiintegrate most shots fired at it anyway.

Considering the context that the other facts about the BFG9000 were put in, I would consider this note of significant mention.

"Yeah, just a note here guys...there's a little miniscule chance - almost an impossibility - that your shot projectile will be gunned down. Despite the actual chances of that occuring and that no harm actually comes to you anyway in the event of that happening, we've decided to give our troops a bit of a heads up."

😆 Really.

I dont know why it would mention it, I mean what in Doom could possibly hit that chip? bullets would disitegrate, plasma is the only "possible" thing but its failed to do anything thus far.

Maybe its theoretically possible, just not practical.

It's a military briefing meant for grunt soldiers, not scientists - which means it's supposed to give the practical and up-front info regarding the weapon, not the insignificant background info.

well obviously it failed, not only is it logcially ridiculous that a tiny chip is going to be endanger but its never been shot.

No, that was the way the weapon was designed by id.

Take it or leave it, but don't deny it - you're denying in-game evidence as it is. Claiming it failed doesn't change that.

I dunno what they were thinking at the time they did this. Maybe the plasma isn't super-heated until the chip processes the final fusion reaction? Its the only way a bullet could get through to even hit it. And even then, it's still an incredibly difficult shot to make.

The chip is very small and hidden inside a massive ball of plasma.

That's what I assume happens.

And it's really less the size of the chip and more the size of the projectile that is fired at it that matters.

great, well if MC gets his hands on a tank, he can hit the chip if hes accurate enough....

although I think tihs has gone off-topic, that still doesnt help decide how MC is going to make up for not having the soul cube to defeat the Cyber demon with.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
The Cyber Demon is no longer completely invulnerable to everything but the Soul Cube

yeh weve gathered that, ime talking "real" Doom as i said before. Currently Chief dies easily, with only 100 hitpoints of his own and a weak shield combined with only a couple of heavy weapons, he will be crushed

Um.. last I checked, the Doomguy had only 100 hit points as well. Well, 200 if you pick up the "supercharge", but so would Master Chief if he got one of those. All and all though, it's already been established that Chief is not human and possesses abilities of that above one, so putting him in a league below one (the Doom Marine) is nonsensical. 😬 Only "a couple heavy weapons" was pretty much all the Doomguy needed to get through hell himself.

yeh AND the soul cube to defeat those beyond his firepower which is beyond chiefs anyway.

Whether hes human or not is besides the point, Darkstorm seems to have brought gameplay into this by bringing up values such as 100 and 4000 in the OP so what Chief is or is not is irrelvent. He has exactley the same basic capabilities as the Doom marine other than the fact he has a very weak shield (Doom guy has armour which by gameplay terms is debatably better)

Doomguy has better weapons AND can carry more, if we give chief the ability to carry more than one of his weapons then Doom guy still has the better mix, from the BFG to the mini gun, etc etc.

Doom guy prob couldnt take this thread either considering the variables.

So it is a spite thread to cripple the Chief.

I hope you pathetic bastards are happy with yourselves. 🙂

meh, Cyber Demon is cirppled as well by not being immune to anything other than the cube.