Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Ventress may have been stronger than some Jedi Masters, but she got her ass kicked my Mace, then Padawan Skywalker and Yoda. Imagine if she faced Revan or Malak? What if she faced Galen Marek? NJO Anakin Solo or LoTF Luke or Caedus? She would be pawned!
Ventress was badass only guys on Yoda's level could punk her, and yes Dooku at his best was in that Yoda ballpark. Malak and Revan would find it difficult going to beat Ventress, she's tiers above Bastila or Bandon imo.
Originally posted by Invictus Legio
It's shows a viable tactic for someone like Sion...
It is. Vader impaled his own body to kill the Maul clone the prophets of the dark side had made.
Sion would be extremely dangerous given his physical invulnerability. He could probably lose a limb or a hand but with his power, he wouldn't be concerned about physical injury.
Meaning he could probably pull off kamaze kills if his opponent lacks the necessary force power to simply overpower him and avoid a close quarters duel.
I could see him fighting Maul or Fisto, getting impaled and then casually maiming his opponent fatally with his own saber.
Originally posted by Allankles
Ventress was badass only guys on Yoda's level could punk her, and yes Dooku at his best was in that Yoda ballpark. Malak and Revan would find it difficult going to beat Ventress, she's tiers above Bastila or Bandon imo.
If you fine Revan and Exar Kun on the same level than Ventress would be punk by Revan also. Revan only had issues with an SF Malak when he lost his memory.
Originally posted by AllanklesUnless of course that wound coincides with his losing his lightsaber. Or if his opponent isn't dumb enough to put themselves in reach of the grasp of a zombie. Seriously. If you saw a living mummy wielding a lightsaber, would you let guard your down just because of one blow?
It is. Vader impaled his own body to kill the Maul clone the prophets of the dark side had made.Sion would be extremely dangerous given his physical invulnerability. He could probably lose a limb or a hand but with his power, he wouldn't be concerned about physical injury.
Meaning he could probably pull off kamaze kills if his opponent lacks the necessary force power to simply overpower him and avoid a close quarters duel.
I could see him fighting Maul or Fisto, getting impaled and then casually maiming his opponent fatally with his own saber.
Originally posted by Cpt. ValerianYes.
Was it really 'single-handedly', though?
!. That should count as discontinuity, that whole version of the CW is against canon. The original fitted perfectly and showed a viable tactic and form for Grievous making sure we understood why he was badass.
2.Have you forgotten that Sion could headbutt his ass?
3.This new series seems to want to put everybody at top tier and the awesomeness of the original Ventress has been completely lost.
4.Kamikaze attacks could be avoided with powerful(not precise) enough TK.
Sorry Allankles, Ventress would not stand a chance against Revan or Malak. Ventress didn't survive Malachor, she didn't have the collected knowledge of the ancient Sith, she didn't know some of the ancient Sith rituals - Revan would overpower her. He's just too strong in the Force. After all, Revan is counted to be among one of the most powerful Sith Lords in history! Ventress wouldn't even come close damn it!
I'm probably going to be accused of being a fanboy of Revan now. Revan destroyed the Sith on Korriban - who did Ventress defeat? She couldn't handle Mace or Skywalker and Skywalker wasn't even at full potential! Revan was upper tier and Ventress would never even come close to beating him.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Only upper tier Masters of the Old Republic would be able to deal with someone like Revan or Malak. Upper tier Masters like Luke or Kyp [LoTF] series would have the power to fight one of them single-handedly.So yeah, Ventress would be pawned by Revan or Malak.
First of all I don't consider Revan and Malak on Yoda or Dooku's level. So yeah, they beat Ventress but Ventress would make them sweat their asses of for that victory, that is what I'm saying. She was a tier above most Jedi Masters and almost equals with Obi Wan.
She had formidable lightsaber skills demonstrated by even landing a glancing blow on Anakin's face in lightsaber duel.
Originally posted by Kotor3
If you fine Revan and Exar Kun on the same level than Ventress would be punk by Revan also. Revan only had issues with an SF Malak when he lost his memory.
Actually it was stated in a synopsis that Malak would surpass Revan given time, as his powers in the dark side were only beginning to grow.
Also, Malak stated that Revan had grown stronger in the force as of Kotor 1. Which makes sense, as Revan had gone through the greatest tribulation of his life up to that point.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Or if his opponent isn't dumb enough to put themselves in reach of the grasp of a zombie. Seriously. If you saw a living mummy wielding a lightsaber, would you let guard your down just because of one blow?
Said Zombie has a lightsaber of his own, if his opponent can impale him or land a blow so can Sion at the same instance. It is a kamikaze tactic.
I read once somewhere that certain warriors would apply such tactics if they felt they were overmatched, and so using a kamikaze ensured that they'd land a blow. Except in this case, Sion would still be alive.
The Exile benefited from having Kreia tell her to run away in their first encounter, Fisto wouldn't have such luck.
As you can tell I like Sion, and part of the reason for that is that he comes off as being brutally pragmatic.
Originally posted by AllanklesI'm saying that if his opponent lops off the hand holding his saber--that's it he's done. And just because he executed a kamikaze attack doesn't mean it will automatically work (this issue is especially relevant here given the the myriad of techniques, powers, skills and mindsets involved in all the possible opponents).
Said Zombie has a lightsaber of his own, if his opponent can impale him or land a blow so can Sion at the same instance. It is a kamikaze tactic.I read once somewhere that certain warriors would apply such tactics if they felt they were overmatched, and so using a kamikaze ensured that they'd land a blow. Except in this case, Sion would still be alive.
The Exile benefited from having Kreia tell her to run away in their first encounter, Fisto wouldn't have such luck.
As you can tell I like Sion, and part of the reason for that is that he comes off as being brutally pragmatic.
And to say again, what synopsis?
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Which synopsis was this?
It was a guide to Kotor 1, I remember reading it before I even picked up the game. It seems Malak get's sorely underestimated in comparison to Revan. Malak was a fledging Sith Lord, he had only started to come into his own in the darkside by Kotor 1.
Originally posted by AllanklesA guide to the game featuring character descriptions? Do they count as canon?
It was a guide to Kotor 1, I remember reading it before I even picked up the game. It seems Malak get's sorely underestimated in comparison to Revan. Malak was a fledging Sith Lord, he had only started to come into his own in the darkside by Kotor 1.