Thanos Vs Final Crisis Darkseid · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
But if there's no body to begin with, what then? Or what if the battle is for whether Thanos becomes Darkseid's new host, thus making Thanos's body the battlefield?
What then? 😗

There is a body here though. That is the point.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Undebatable being code for: "I can't think of a way to justify Thanos winning and I didn't understand Final Crisis." dur
You're arguing Thanos wins, but you're also claiming FC Darkseid is undebatable. And you haven't given us a single way as to how Thanos has a chance.

When did I say Thanos wins here?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Says who? DS is strong because he has no real body. He exist even without a body. However, can Thanos even escape the ALE? I don't think so!!!

Thanos exists without a body as well. Next. I think since Thanos has survived the heart there could be an argument brought up for Thanos resisting the ale.

Originally posted by kevdude
Can Thanos even live without a body is what you meant to say right?? 😉

He exists right next to death.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Mindset
Has Thanos shown courage or honor?
Then he has some noble qualities.

Ofcourse but if that's your criteria DS has shown the same.

But there is a darkness in Thanos soul it has something to do with death, and all who worship holocaust and death, worship Darkseid.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Allankles
Ofcourse but if that's your criteria DS has shown the same.
But there is a darkness in Thanos soul it has something to do with death, and all who worship holocaust and death, worship Darkseid.

That's the meaning of noble.

It's not just my criteria, it should be yours too if you're using noble.

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Originally posted by Allankles
But there is a darkness in Thanos soul it has something to do with death, and all who worship holocaust and death, worship Darkseid.

Sure. In DC.

Thanos worships Mistress Death. Who is certainly not Darkseid.

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Originally posted by Allankles
That's the best idea on how a battle between FC DS and other characters would play out. I think he would feed on Thanos' soul if it came down to it.
FC: "Wrestling with Darkseid, well... it's like trying to beat the ocean unconscious."

Thanos took on ominpotence and the supreme being in moments while it took the pharoah much longer to handle less power.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Shut up. It's been proved the ALE had nothing to do with his feats.
And the reason he didn't grab Superman, was because he wanted to kill him with his own hands, not use him for a host. And Turpin was his host at the time, so why the need?
Not a theory about the possession. Only problem is that Thanos's spirit is weak. It has nothing to do with will. Corruption is something Thanos is very very vulnerable to. He is not above the concept of evil. And his own nature means he cannot resist.

The reason he achieved what he did was due to the ale. Without it he stalemated the other new gods. He needed the amp and that is what won him the war.

Thanos is outside the influences of chaos and order and would not fall victim imo to Ds. He is Thanos and his feats are legendary.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
People evil won hello!! DS wins 😄

At the end of the day Ds lost to superman. Same thing that always happens.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
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It's been proved the ALE had nothing to do with his feats LOL. Your a funny guy Trick. Problem is the ALE has been used by other people thus it's more like a powerup."
RETCONNED. The ALE itself has been retconned by Grant Morrison.
The remaking of creation was the stealing of FREE WILL.

It's still a powerup and your own scan backs it up.

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Originally posted by skyfather
thaos was able to master THOTU by sheer will power and magus with the ig had trouble forcing thanos to bow to his will HOTU/IG(incomplete)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALE

Agreed.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The gun filled with radion is just like Drax' fist through Thanos' chest.

Except the fact that Thanos wasn't even engaging him. The weakness for both is a plot device, but Thanos was killed because Drax cheapshotted him which I am pretty sure isn't the case with Darkseid at all.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Um. Maybe FC DS was. You think classic DS is above Neron?

No way.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
No way.

👆

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Radion, Black Racer, Wondy's lasso, the miracle machine, Metron etc.
A host of plot devices and godly weapons were needed to stop Darkseid.
Thanos has NONE of the above. And you think to match a fallen god, and btw, a singularity CRUSHES space/time. Thanos cannot withstand Darkseid's evil.

Thanos withstood the heart so Ds should be a piece of cake imo.

Originally posted by Allankles
DS corrupts the soul not merely the mind and Thanos has nothing to combat DS' corrupting influence. As mentioned earlier, Thanos doesn't have a noble spirit so he has nothing to resist DS with.

Speculation with nothing to back it up.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Mindset
That's the meaning of noble.
It's not just my criteria, it should be yours too if you're using noble.

I hardly consider a guy who murders defenseless creatures just to regulate population density noble.

Mindset Senior Member

Then you don't know what noble means.

Now get outta here 'fore I drop some noble on your dome

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos withstood the heart so Ds should be a piece of cake imo.

The heart was mere will power, DS is not some non-sentient well of power. He corrupts souls and Thanos soul has plenty of darkness for which DS can easily prey on consuming his soul with zero sustenance for his efforts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation with nothing to back it up.

I have no idea what this is adressing.

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Originally posted by Allankles
The heart was mere will power, DS is not some non-sentient well of power. He corrupts souls and Thanos soul has plenty of darkness for which DS can easily prey on consuming his soul with zero sustenance for his efforts.
I have no idea what this is adressing.

To control the supreme power is amazing an dto suggest Ds can control Thanos' soul is pure speculation.

Where is your proof that Thanos' soul can be easily corrupted?

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sure. In DC.
Thanos worships Mistress Death. Who is certainly not Darkseid.

The issue is he worships concepts tied to DS' nature, he can't hope to even put up a resitance when DS can easily corrupt him with the abundance of darkness already in his soul.

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Originally posted by Allankles
I hardly consider a guy who murders defenseless creatures just to regulate population density noble.

Back when he was pretty much pure evil?

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Originally posted by Allankles
The issue is he worships concepts tied to DS' nature, he can't hope to even put up a resitance when DS can easily corrupt him with the abundance of darkness already in his soul.

Thanos is a death god.

What you're suggesting is that Darkseid would own Mandrakk because Mandrakk is evil. And you have nothing to back it up with besides him corrupting an out-of-shape human's soul over the period of weeks.

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Originally posted by Allankles
The issue is he worships concepts tied to DS' nature, he can't hope to even put up a resitance when DS can easily corrupt him with the abundance of darkness already in his soul.

Where is your proof?

Originally posted by Allankles
I hardly consider a guy who murders defenseless creatures just to regulate population density noble.

You do realize he has changed since then, right?

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by quanchi112

Where is your proof that Thanos' soul can be easily corrupted?

DS preys on whatever guilt, agression, murderous intentc that is already in your soul. A noble spirit can resist (to apoint) because they have an abundance of good in their soul to counteract whatever DS is preying on.

But Thanos already has an overabundance of guilt, murderous intent, wrath and hate, DS can easily bring these things out and consume his soul.

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Originally posted by Allankles
DS preys on whatever guilt, agression, murderous intentc that is already in your soul. A noble spirit can resist (to apoint) because they have an abundance of good in their soul to counteract whatever DS is preying on.
But Thanos already has an overabundance of guilt, murderous intent, wrath and hate, DS can easily bring these things out and consume his soul.

Thanos also saved the entire universe and has good in his soul as well. Do you have any proof that this tactic would work on someone like Thanos who is outside the influence of chaos and order and his life experiences.

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Originally posted by Allankles
But Thanos already has an overabundance of guilt, murderous intent, wrath and hate, DS can easily bring these things out and consume his soul.

I call bullshit on this since you haven't provided a shred of proof of him doing it on anyone near Thanos' power level. But even so, it still won't work. Thanos has fought off Afro Magus w/ the Soul Gem's power before, while weakened. DS's innate manipulation is not above that.

Allankles Kwisatz Haderach

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos is a death god.
What you're suggesting is that Darkseid would own Mandrakk because Mandrakk is evil. And you have nothing to back it up with besides him corrupting an out-of-shape human's soul over the period of weeks.

Mandrakk is a being of an entirely different nature. Mandrakk consumes story in the form of the Bleed, he's a "vampire" of story. Thanos has a spirit like any other, and there's nothing especially unique with his spirit except that Lady Death has a relationship with him. Mandrakk turned himself into the Dark Monitor he's entirely a force of nature.