Count Nefaria vs Superman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not a full power that I can remember. I'm pretty sure Neferia was going through one of his phases where he was low on Ionic energy and was on the hunt for more if I'm remembering correctly. Of course if I'm not and Ironman beat him strait up while he was at full power than I resend my previous arguments and concede the point because my high opinion of Neferia is derived from high showings that aren't contradicted...

I'm not sure what phase he was in, tbh. I just know that Iron Man ended up beating Neffy by battling him until all/most of his powers had been exhausted.

Here's that instance in it's entirety:

*shrugs*

Mindset Senior Member

That was crap

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mindset
That was crap

I agree. My only point is that Neffy, (much like Superman) has been beaten by less than the combined efforts of the Avengers.

Mindset Senior Member

IM > Avengers

Mekrob Dead

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. My only point is that Neffy, (much like Superman) has been beaten by less than the combined efforts of the Avengers.

When his full power immediately went down after he fired one eyebeam... That'd be like Superman not storing energy in his cells, and seeing how long he lasts.

Either way, Avenger's Nefaria lasted way longer... and when he was ionic, he had to have a couple blasts meant to disrupt his power to put him down (if I'm not mistaken, I form WM never tired, could go for Nef too).

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mindset
IM > Avengers

Just one ">" symbol? uhuh

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. My only point is that Neffy, (much like Superman) has been beaten by less than the combined efforts of the Avengers.

Most characters have been put down by much less than what their top feat is. Strangely, these diversionary "debate" tactics always seem to pop up when a Supes discussion arises.

Good post though. That should clear up some of the trash smeared in this thread though I suspect it will open up another can of worms somehow.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not sure what phase he was in, tbh. I just know that Iron Man ended up beating Neffy by battling him until all/most of his powers had been exhausted.
Here's that instance in it's entirety:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430374/im1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430375/im2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430376/im3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430377/im4.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430378/im5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430384/im6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430380/im7.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430381/im8.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430382/im9.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1430383/im10.jpg.html
*shrugs*

Yeah, I'm all but positive that went down during one of Neferia's "dry spells". If I'm right then it doesn't really reflect badly on Neferia because he's at full power in this thread(of course if I'm wrong then see my previous statement).

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mekrob
Either way, Avenger's Nefaria lasted way longer...

Superman has too. 😛

Srsly though, all I'm saying is that we can't only bring up 'lower' feats from just one of the combatants.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah, I'm all but positive that went down during one of Neferia's "dry spells". If I'm right then it doesn't really reflect badly on Neferia because he's at full power in this thread(of course if I'm wrong then see my previous statement).

Could very well be, darth. Like I said, I'm not sure which phase Neffy was in. However, in the third scan Neffy does say that he had been restored to his "proper power levels." What do you make of that?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Could very well be, darth. Like I said, I'm not sure which phase Neffy was in. However, in the third scan Neffy does say that he had been restored to his "proper power levels." What do you make of that?

It says that the machinery restored him to the proper levels, but he has to feed in order to sustain those levels. I don't know if he'd drained any ionic beings in that book, but if he hadn't I'd say that he wasn't at full power IMO.

Mekrob Dead

It means that's as powerful as he was, but he has no cardio.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by darthgoober
It says that the machinery restored him to the proper levels, but he has to feed in order to sustain those levels. I don't know if he'd drained any ionic beings in that book, but if he hadn't I'd say that he wasn't at full power IMO.

It's really unknown. The scans I posted = all of Neffy's appearances in that particular comic.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Could very well be, darth. Like I said, I'm not sure which phase Neffy was in. However, in the third scan Neffy does say that he had been restored to his "proper power levels." What do you make of that?

He also says he needs constant ionic input to maintain those levels.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
It's really unknown. The scans I posted = all of Neffy's appearances in that particular comic.

Then I'd say that he was most likely at less than full power, and Captain America has beaten him when he was going through a dry spell.

At full power though he's nothing less than a teambuster. Thor even compared his "mettle" to that of the Asgardian Destroyer.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Galan007
Could very well be, darth. Like I said, I'm not sure which phase Neffy was in. However, in the third scan Neffy does say that he had been restored to his "proper power levels." What do you make of that?

It means he was at proper power. Anything else is conjecture.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has superman ever beaten down captain marvel as easily as Black Adam has in the jsa comic?

When has superman tried? and most of CM vs BA fights are a draw either way.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by kgkg
When has superman tried? and most of CM vs BA fights are a draw either way.

When Superman fights him that means he is trying. I can't believe you are trying to play this card. Th4e fact remains that Superman has never stomped Captain Marvel the way Black adam recently did.

Raoul Hey Yo!

Originally posted by quanchi112
When Superman fights him that means he is trying.

no it doesn't. captain marvel is a fellow hero. how often do two heroes like superman and captain marvel actually fight with the intention of hurting each other? not often.

superman will never go all out against marvel, and marvel would never go all out against superman.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Raoul
no it doesn't. captain marvel is a fellow hero. how often do two heroes like superman and captain marvel actually fight with the intention of hurting each other? not often.
superman will never go all out against marvel, and marvel would never go all out against superman.

Heroes fight all the time with the intention of hurting each other. Supes and Orion weren't playing hot hands. I admit they aren;t out to kill each other, but if you want something like that I direct your attention to Supes vs WW in issue 219.

Black Adam wasn't out to kill Captain Marvel either.