Philosophía
"The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by darthgoober
If Supes has never done the same thing despite repeated chances(and I'm pretty sure that he's had plenty of chances to take a punch from someone on Thor's level) then it DOES put him above Supes durability wise. And yeah, I'm willing to bet that the reduced mobility from having one arm tied behind your back like that would affect your punching power.
So Superman has to do something another character has done, in this case take punches without flinching from Wonderman level strength characters, in order for him to be superior to Count Nefaria in durability, eventough he has durability feats far superior to what Count Nefaria has shown ? What kind of idiocy is that ? I just pointed out why reciving a punch from a powerfull opponent without flinching isn't overly impressive, thus the Doomsday example, yet you go on how this showing supposdley prove how much greater than Superman Nefaria is.
Do you want me to ask you to show me Nefaria doing some of the stuff Superman has done. How about escaping a black hole ? Oh yeah, I forgot, he had problems with a portal Thor was sucking him in. Also funny how he wasn't no-selling Wonderman with Captain America's shield, eh ? Or how about Iron Man while amping his armour ? Or Vision. Or Thor. See where this can go ?
Originally posted by darthgoober
And by the same token, Supes has more feats because "he's an earth-bound hero, with thousands of appearances". If we're going to hold true to the characters themselves then we have to look at how they're typically portrayed rather than their high end feats. Supes's average puts him somewhere on Thor's level in the strength/durability department, Neferia's average puts him above it.
How convenient of you to ignore the holding back part, which was one of my main points on why he has more low-showings, and he's not wtfpwning everybody at insane levels, that have been shown he can achieve, eh? Per forum rules, he will operate at a level that Count Nefaria hasn't proven he can. He has showings proving that he is faster, stronger, more durable. I know it, and you even admit it. You're bringing up the 'he doesn't operate at those levels on average thus I'm going to put him at a level that fits me' in order to have Nefaria win, even after I've explained why he doesn't always operate at that level, eventough he has proven that he can. It doesn't work that way.