Mario vs Kratos

Originally posted by bane214
I'm gonna have to agree with screampaste, you're basically saying that because the mario games are supose to be for children and funny and that the god of war games are serious and more adult that mario's feats dont count anymore and honestly thats just stupid. Also imo the god of war universe is no more belivable then the marioverse.

The GOWverse is based on real mythology and most of which is outlined in a more professional manor and explained by the rules of the fiction itself.

mario is not, mario does random and ridiculous feats without real backup for the feats in question. It seems to me that the verse Mario enters where princess peach and Kupers excist is one of a lack of logic, there is no evidence nor fact backing up the reason behind Marios power or Kupas ability and if Kupa could survive the sun then he would have destroyed the Mushroom kingdom eons ago with ease. Furthermore, how was he thrown into the sun? can anyone show me the video?

Similiar things could be said about other ridiculous cartoons like Bugs bunny surviving endless damage, or outspeeding cars/planes, or Tazmanian devil surviving being blown into pieces...but this is all logicless nonsense that would not work against a logical environment, becaue in that environ he would have to obey the rules of logic.

And my question has still not been answered, when does Mario gain his super powers?

I DID answer, you just didn't read it, lol. Mario was born a hairy chested he man, Baby Mario has a moustache in the SNES game.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s160/p0ke_me/no20u.jpg o_O;

The thing you're ignoring, BT, is that the only difference between Kratos universe and Mario's is the theme. Mario's is more light hearted, and Kratos is omgANGST!!!1 lol. Mario's feats are valid.

I read it, ime talking about powers.....if theres no indication of said powers or gaining of any super powers then Mario is nothing more than a plummer....my case is set....

And dont troll this thread, especially if you do not know how to post actual images.

Their valid if Kratos was a cartoon, hes not unfortunatley and is not subject to the Mario verse rules either.

Lol, Mario is not a cartoon, his art design is cartoony, he's a video game character.

Your case is not set. when did zeus aquire his powers? At birth, Mario aquired his at birth and throguh constant exercise saving the princess. I have proven Mario's case, you have yet to disprove it with anything other than "but he's a cartoon!! D:" =/ I like debating with you usually but this is gettign beyond redundant.

Zeus acquired his power through his father Kronos who was godly in power as well, he was empowered through race and as being a God, his spiecies of "God" all had incredible power.

On the other hand, Mario is merely a plummer....the case is set as I said. Unless you can prove like Zeus, Mario is not human at all? and is part of a race that has innate power?

Where did Kronos get his power? And where did the gods as a race get theirs? Not specified. I thus conclude they are infact powerless cartoons. .. Lol.

Mario is a plumber, so he's powerless? Lol. So, le's say Kratos runs out of peopel to kill and starts a farm or somethign and settles down, he's a powerless farmer?

Plumber =/= powerless. Plumbers everywhere are probably offended. It takes a real man to work with poo pipes.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Where did Kronos get his power? And where did the gods as a race get theirs? Not specified. I thus conclude they are infact powerless cartoons. .. Lol.

Mario is a plumber, so he's powerless? Lol. So, le's say Kratos runs out of peopel to kill and starts a farm or somethign and settles down, he's a powerless farmer?

Plumber =/= powerless. Plumbers everywhere are probably offended. It takes a real man to work with poo pipes.

Troll

I asked you where he gains his powers, you told me he had hair from birth......thus, all he is, is a plumber, thats it...

yes powerless, ime sorry but real world plumbers dont toss giant monsters around into suns.

And yet, Mario did. I'm not trolling I'm making a point. Keke?

No you troll by consistently calling GOW cartoonish just because Mario is done in that style......

and for the record Kronos got his power from his father Oauranos, who gained his power from the Chaos which was explained as an extremely power magical body I beleive.

Regardless, its explained in detail how the race of Gods and Titans were extremely powerful and magical as a race so each individual would have vast power as a race.

The explanation for Zeus and the other Gods are the fact they are magic. Mario on teh other hand so far has zero explanation, therefore all he is, is a plaumber, fact...now by that fact...he is a human being, thus, the only argument you have is that the Mushroom kingdom or w/e universe Mario does these ridiculous feats in are under diffrent rules to a logical universe.

Can someone explain to me why Mario can survive being thrown into a sun, but can't survive a turtle touching him?

Because he is a ridciulous illogical character, or perhaps "those turtles hit with the power greater of that of the sun!"

Originally posted by Burning thought
No you troll by consistently calling GOW cartoonish just because Mario is done in that style......

and for the record Kronos got his power from his father Oauranos, who gained his power from the Chaos which was explained as an extremely power magical body I beleive.

Regardless, its explained in detail how the race of Gods and Titans were extremely powerful and magical as a race so each individual would have vast power as a race.

The explanation for Zeus and the other Gods are the fact they are magic. Mario on teh other hand so far has zero explanation, therefore all he is, is a plaumber, [b]fact...now by that fact...he is a human being, thus, the only argument you have is that the Mushroom kingdom or w/e universe Mario does these ridiculous feats in are under diffrent rules to a logical universe. [/B]

you missed my point entirely. I was highlighting that somewhere along every line the chain stops, where did the original beign get is' power?

and I'm not trolling, I'm makign a seperate point. Mario's art style and light hearted theme do not make all his feats null and void. This entire stance is just a defense by you to stop Kratos gettign murdered by a character no one wants tosee beat the supar srs god of war.

Your entire argument is just that because Mario's feats are outlandish and often rediculous, and well beyond your *typical human plumber* (mario isanything but typical.) that they do not apply. Okay, now I'm telling you Mario is not just a plumbwer and that for whatever reason, has been plessed with the superhuman capabilities he clearly displays on a constant basis, be it rediculous jumping powers, or super human strength or shootign fireballs from the palms of his hands. Normal people don't do any of these things, but Mario is NOT a cartoon or immortal, this fight is perfectly fair, and so far as I can tell in Mario's advantage. Your defense is to tryand disqualify him for being a four foot tall plumber who likes spaghetti and blondes?
WUT?

Both game characters can die, cartoon immortality would get stripped anyway. Mario has great feats of durability and strength, you provedi n your own post Mario is not your typical plumber by listing things he does that normal plumbers do not.

Not knowing the source of his power does not mean he has no power. This is a logical fallacy. "I dunno how he flies, so he cn't fly D:<" imagine a member of a primitive tribe who comes across a man with a camera assuming the camera doesn't exist.

If anythign you're insistance that I'm trolling is just the break down of a lack of logical argument to properly disqualify Mario for being anythign more than lighthearted in i's execution and gameplay.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Can someone explain to me why Mario can survive being thrown into a sun, but can't survive a turtle touching him?

Bowser survived that, Mario survived the detruction of a Galaxy.

And turtles don't touch him in the Canon. =/ Can someone explain to me how Kratos can kill gods and yet the small time enemies can harm him?

Atleast Mario can deal with his enemies in a manner as simple as jumping on them and brutally crushing them under his work boots.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
you missed my point entirely. I was highlighting that somewhere along every line the chain stops, where did the original beign get is' power?

and I'm not trolling, I'm makign a seperate point. Mario's art style and light hearted theme do not make all his feats null and void. This entire stance is just a defense by you to stop Kratos gettign murdered by a character no one wants tosee beat the supar srs god of war.

Your entire argument is just that because Mario's feats are outlandish and often rediculous, and well beyond your *typical human plumber* (mario isanything but typical.) that they do not apply. Okay, now I'm telling you Mario is not just a plumbwer and that for whatever reason, has been plessed with the superhuman capabilities he clearly displays on a constant basis, be it rediculous jumping powers, or super human strength or shootign fireballs from the palms of his hands. Normal people don't do any of these things, but Mario is NOT a cartoon or immortal, this fight is perfectly fair, and so far as I can tell in Mario's advantage. Your defense is to tryand disqualify him for being a four foot tall plumber who likes spaghetti and blondes?
WUT?

Both game characters can die, cartoon immortality would get stripped anyway. Mario has great feats of durability and strength, you provedi n your own post Mario is not your typical plumber by listing things he does that normal plumbers do not.

Not knowing the source of his power does not mean he has no power. This is a logical fallacy. "I dunno how he flies, so he cn't fly D:<" imagine a member of a primitive tribe who comes across a man with a camera assuming the camera doesn't exist.

If anythign you're insistance that I'm trolling is just the break down of a lack of logical argument to properly disqualify Mario for being anythign more than lighthearted in i's execution and gameplay.

The chain does not stop, and the original is explained to be innate with that power similiar to how God in the Christian religion or how the Big bang started....

No YOU want Mario to beat the God of war, thats what YOU want, because it prob amuses you, but the fact of the matter is, he is merely a plumber.

All of his feats are disqualified because all he is in reality is a plumber whos power comes from the very fact Mushroom kingdom has a very queer logic system, unfortunatley unless this battle was set in the mushroom kingdom, then perhaps Mario could do said things in this debate. But then again, Kratos would be under the same powers to, so you would have to gauge a REAL super Godly being even higher because he would also gain illogical powers, only hes not a plumber, hes higher in reality as well.

normal plumbers do not go to Mushroom kingdom., a universe without logic either.

BT...... Please tell me your not trying to disregard Mario based on the fact that the Mario Bros series is not realistic......

Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous that is? We may as well shut down all the VS forums based on that poor deduction...

Lol, no, I want an actual debate, though I will admit the prospect of the portly plumber winning DOES amuse me that's not my agenda. I play devil's advocate often enough. I like to root for the one less rooted for. Besides Nintendo is heavily under represented on this site.

And you stilll don't get it, just because the power is not explained doesn't mean it's not there.

In reality Mario and Kratos are both pixelated.

In gaming, they both have feats.

Actual debate now plx.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
BT...... Please tell me your not trying to disregard Mario based on the fact that the Mario Bros series is not realistic......

Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous that is? We may as well shut down all the VS forums based on that poor deduction...

THIS! QF Fing T.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
BT...... Please tell me your not trying to disregard Mario based on the fact that the Mario Bros series is not realistic......

Do you have ANY idea how ludicrous that is? We may as well shut down all the VS forums based on that poor deduction...

Please re-read my posts, you obviously did not do so the first time round....you are very wrong 🙂

Zeus got his powers from Cronos[and his bolts from Hephateus], Cronos got his power from Uranus, and Uranus got his power from Gaia, and Gaia got her power from Chaos. Gods in Greek Myth are nonething, Ares was hurt by humans, and was hurt so bad he had to run like a little *****.

and Chaos got power from?