Best Long Range Fighter

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
In what instance?

Even then, Superman's strength can't hold a candle to Mjolnir's capabilities.

i never said it could. i was replying to naija's statement about surfer's skin.

Originally posted by Naija boy
But arent his highest feats cases of it burning through things rather than it using concussive force to destroy them? Also what feats does it have that were comparable to his strength?

he's hv'd off limbs of the general, who was using the insanely durable shaggy man body. it was only the use of salamander regenerative dna that kept the general going, iirc.

he's melted major force's skin (more heat than power, granted)

he's put down j'onn, despero, and one-shotted more than one imperiex probe.

his hv has packed sufficient power to block omega beams.

those are off the top of my head. i can look for more later...

also, yeah, this isnt a vs thread people, lets not turn it in to one...

Hal or SS

Firestorm

Supes

Thor

BB

Originally posted by Starscream M
and his heat vision would be instantaneous...there is no travel time as there is with a hammer throw

thus in conclusion, Superman would be far deadlier at far ranges

Thor can't even find you from far away if you were hiding

Thor can see people at 1 km away. Seriously, 1 km away is not that far. Also:

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
well if someone is attacking him, he only has to trace that attack.

Thor also has the most effective defense amongst the group in that he can absorb, deflect and reamplify/return energy attacks with no harm coming to him at all. He also boasts the most versatility in attacks: storms out of nowhere, energy blasts, whirlwind vortexes, lightning strikes from above and godblasts.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Mjolnir can guide Thor to pretty much any person, anywhere, anyti- ... well it used to be anytime before they got rid of Mjolnir's temporal abilities.

Thor also has the most effective defense amongst the group in that he can absorb, deflect and reamplify/return energy attacks with no harm coming to him at all. He also boasts the most versatility in attacks: storms out of nowhere, energy blasts, whirlwind vortexes, lightning strikes from above and godblasts.

Yup.

There's also though anti-force blasts and a loooong list of bullshit attacks : DD

Not to mention the ability to drain someone's life force.

^ Thor's used super-breath before too. True story.

😐

Seriously.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thor's used super-breath before too. True story.

😐

Seriously.

He's also fought an extended battle on the sun : D

Eat your heart out Superman.

Originally posted by Raoul
i never said it could. i was replying to naija's statement about surfer's skin.

he's hv'd off limbs of the general, who was using the insanely durable shaggy man body. it was only the use of salamander regenerative dna that kept the general going, iirc.

he's melted major force's skin (more heat than power, granted)

he's put down j'onn, despero, and one-shotted more than one imperiex probe.

his hv has packed sufficient power to block omega beams.

those are off the top of my head. i can look for more later...

also, yeah, this isnt a vs thread people, lets not turn it in to one...

The first feat while impressive doesnt mean its going to have the same effect on surfer as surfer has superior durability.

Same thing with major force. Surfer> Major force by quite a bit durability wise

surfer is superior to Jonn durability wise
The Despero he put down, wasnt that a weaker version or something? and also in OWAW he seemed to be putting down imperiex probes with fast combinations of strength,HV,freezebreath etc iirc. Did he ever actually put down impriex probes using soley his HV?

Still, all in all those feats are impressive but not certainly not enough to make me believe it can cause damage to surfers skin considering the shots he has taken without any visible physical damage,

Originally posted by Naija boy
The first feat while impressive doesnt mean its going to have the same effect on surfer as surfer has superior durability.

Same thing with major force. Surfer> Major force by quite a bit durability wise

surfer is superior to Jonn durability wise
The Despero he put down, wasnt that a weaker version or something? and also in OWAW he seemed to be putting down imperiex probes with fast combinations of strength,HV,freezebreath etc iirc. Did he ever actually put down impriex probes using soley his HV?

Still, all in all those feats are impressive but not certainly not enough to make me believe it can cause damage to surfers skin considering the shots he has taken without any visible physical damage,

Originally posted by jalek moye
it it will be an actually painfull attack though, but no it wont crack it or anything

Exactly

Originally posted by Naija boy
The first feat while impressive doesnt mean its going to have the same effect on surfer as surfer has superior durability.

steel said shaggy man is "completely indestructible". not saying he's surfer's superior, but he'd have to be on a comparable level imo.

Same thing with major force. Surfer> Major force by quite a bit durability wise

surfer is superior to Jonn durability wise
The Despero he put down, wasnt that a weaker version or something? and also in OWAW he seemed to be putting down imperiex probes with fast combinations of strength,HV,freezebreath etc iirc. Did he ever actually put down impriex probes using soley his HV?

Still, all in all those feats are impressive but not certainly not enough to make me believe it can cause damage to surfers skin considering the shots he has taken without any visible physical damage,

its what jalek moye said. i wasnt claiming he could penetrate the surfer's skin, i was just illustrating that it's a powerful attack all on its own.

also, imperiex probe:

all i'm trying to do is dispel the myth that his heat vision isn't that impressive, given people (not you) in some cases seem to think superman has no other options bar strength and speed...

Superman Sucks.
But his HV is a *****. It's hotter than Stars. And has on panel matched a DS avatars Omega Beams. We are talking skyfather lvl Omega beams.

Originally posted by Raoul
steel said shaggy man is "completely indestructible". not saying he's surfer's superior, but he'd have to be on a comparable level imo.

its what jalek moye said. i wasnt claiming he could penetrate the surfer's skin, i was just illustrating that it's a powerful attack all on its own.

also, imperiex probe:

all i'm trying to do is dispel the myth that his heat vision isn't that impressive, given people (not you) in some cases seem to think superman has no other options bar strength and speed...

Yeah well then i definitely agree with that.( the part about it being really powerful, not the part about surfer durability being comparable to shaggy man 😛 )

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman Sucks.
But his HV is a *****. It's hotter than Stars. And has on panel matched a DS avatars Omega Beams. We are talking skyfather lvl Omega beams.

Clearly.

Heat vision = Skyfather level energy beams.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman Sucks.
But his HV is a *****. It's hotter than Stars. And has on panel matched a DS avatars Omega Beams. We are talking skyfather lvl Omega beams.

ehem, Two blasts colliding with each other does not put them on the same level or even close.

^ Barring context or any further developments where one blast is clearly more potent than the other, I'd say it does at least illustrate that the two blasts are comparable.

Originally posted by Naija boy
ehem, Two blasts colliding with each other does not put them on the same level or even close.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Barring context or any further developments where one blast is clearly more potent than the other, I'd say it does at least illustrate that the two blasts are comparable.

By further developments do u mean feats which occur outside said environment? Cuz id think that DS Omega beams have supermans HV beaten in that department. There also the nature of blasts that will be called into question. Some blasts which pack less concussive force might be "lose" or at least make the power gap between the two beams look closer than it actually is in that sort of beam collison but be more effective when it comes to battle and actually affecting opponents.

Originally posted by Naija boy
By further developments do u mean feats which occur outside said environment? Cuz id think that DS Omega beams have supermans HV beaten in that department. There also the nature of blasts that will be called into question. Some blasts which pack less concussive force might be "lose" in that sort of beam collison but be more effective when it comes to battle and actually affecting opponents.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Yeah well then i definitely agree with that.( the part about it being really powerful, not the part about surfer durability being comparable to shaggy man 😛 )

😆

works for me...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No, I mean like in the next panel, one beam is shown overtaking the other. The latter can be true, but as I said before, all things considered equal a stalemating of beams strongly implies same level or close to same level.

Well i think that depends on the time period in which they stalemate. A prolonged stalemating of beams given that both operate in somewhat the same ways does suggest that they may be comparable. However what im referring to is a brief collision of beams (similar to Tyrant and Gladiators). In such instances people at times falsely believe that the power of such beams are equal.