Best Long Range Fighter

Originally posted by h1a8
Its light speed.

I agree with everything you said. I just believe Superman can blast SS before SS can blast him.

Now energy can appear invisible (like gamma rays). This alone makes it seem that SS is affecting things far away without blasting at them.

I now agree with you though. SS is the better long range figther than Superman is. I was only applying Superman to a one on one situation. Where SS is clearly much better at a one on many situation.

Yeah ive heard its lightspeed but i was just wondering if there was any examples of it in which it was verified to be moving at lightspeed.

Also i wasnt talking about SS using his energy powers, i was referring to his matter manip which he has shown he can use from very long distances without even needing to see his target.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Yeah ive heard its lightspeed but i was just wondering if there was any examples of it in which it was verified to be moving at lightspeed.

Also i wasnt talking about SS using his energy powers, i was referring to his matter manip which he has shown he can use from very long distances without even needing to see his target.

There is a comic showing Superman shooting HV at the moon from Earth. The beam took a matter of a few seconds to get there. I don't know if this is near light speed (I didn't calculate it or don't know how far the moon is away). I'm basically just going on how fast the comics seem to show it (it seems like a laser beam).

If SS can do that (affect matter from very far away) then he is top dog at long range fighting. See, I have no problem agreeing when someone is right. I would like to see him do that eventually. Not necessarily right now though.

SS can use eye blasts just as well as Supes can. SS power cosmic has a FAR greater variety of effects than Supes' heat vision or Super breath or w/e can. SS main attack is ranged making him the more skilled ranged figther. SS can fly and move just as fast or faster that Superman.

Higher intensity
Higher variety
Similar speed
Higher skill

On a ranged attack comparison, Supes isn't even a concern for the SS, I'd say GL is but Surfer prolly has him beat in sheer reaction speed and slightly beat in sheer power.

Originally posted by h1a8
There is a comic showing Superman shooting HV at the moon from Earth. The beam took a matter of a few seconds to get there. I don't know if this is near light speed (I didn't calculate it or don't know how far the moon is away). I'm basically just going on how fast the comics seem to show it (it seems like a laser beam).

If SS can do that (affect matter from very far away) then he is top dog at long range fighting. See, I have no problem agreeing when someone is right. I would like to see him do that eventually. Not necessarily right now though.

Well SS blasted the Lord enslavers ship,(which was much larger than earth and was which was "parked" behind the moon) from earth. His blast also seemingly reached there in a few seconds. this can be confirmed because he was actually in a battle with the Lord enslaver, Mrungo Mu at the time and immediately Mrungo is cut off from his power near instantly. So even then saying supes HV is faster isnt really accurate. See below,

And also yes SS has used his Matter manip abilities from long distances

http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0016og0.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0017av4.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0018lv5.jpg

Here he protects the drivetechs of a whole population full of ships from electromagnetic distortion on the planet orbucen just by blinking. Said ships are in an entirely different location.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Well SS blasted the Lord enslavers ship,(which was much larger than earth and was which was "parked" behind the moon) from earth. His blast also seemingly reached there in a few seconds. this can be confirmed because he was actually in a battle with the Lord enslaver, Mrungo Mu at the time and immediately Mrungo is cut off from his power near instantly. So even then saying supes HV is faster isnt really accurate. See below,

And also yes SS has used his Matter manip abilities from long distances

http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0016og0.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0017av4.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0018lv5.jpg

Here he protects the drivetechs of a whole population full of ships from electromagnetic distortion on the planet orbucen just by blinking. Said ships are in an entirely different location.

Impressive.
What comic is that from?

Originally posted by h1a8
Impressive.
What comic is that from?

the first is from SS enslavers graphic novel. And the second set of scans are from nova 14

so are we all agreed that ss is currently #1 in the list of long range fighters? so... now who's #2?

I'm personally going with thor. I put him above GL since he has non-linear attacks (storms, winds, lightning...) and because he has that damn energy absorption ability of mjolnir. plus GFB.

^ Thor better in a long range fight IMHO.

Originally posted by FrothByte
so are we all agreed that ss is currently #1 in the list of long range fighters?

Thor or GL tossup at #2. GL imo.

My arrangement would be as follows:

Silver Surfer

Hal Jordan

Thor

Superman

Firestorm

Black Bolt

BB has an uber ranged attack but loses in speed and versatility.

1. Silver Surfer - takes this spot by a wide margin...the rest are closer to each other

2. Green Lantern
3. Thor
4. Superman
5. Firestorm
6. Black Bolt

Thor eeks out Supes only by the slightest. It's more like 3a. Thor and 3b. Supes