Originally posted by Master Han
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ah good so you have evidence of this 🙂
you just forgot to quote it 🙂
you're not just posturing and presuming, i'm sure 🙂
:edit: oh nice edit/delete: you said that there was contextual evidence with the OP that it was 2005 kong. and you forgot to quote that exchange.
Originally posted by Master Han
😆 Way to shift goalposts, buddy. Marvelous sportsmanship like yours is what maintains my faith in humanity through society's ups and downs.Transformers have demonstrably taken multi-thousand ton bombs, and Prime in particular has literally ripped Decipticons apart with his bare hands. This version of King Kong struggled immensely to rip through some steel chains, and then died to some pre-WWII biplanes.
Furthermore, IDK why you and chump are so obsessed with H2H combat, when Prime has both melee and ranged weaponry built into his body.
Sadako should clarify for us, then.
But don't try playing dumb; you originally claimed that the OP specified nothing.
It does 'as stands'.
Youre shifting into sweeping statement mode.
1) Your sportsmanship seems to be about name calling and low feat repping.
2) And they are built into his arms. Which would be ripped off most likely by Kong anyway. 70s Kong ripped trains apart with his bare hands.
3) Ahhh so you claim its H2H victory to Prime via range weapons? lol Not very H2Hish at all.
4) You rage misspelt. Its not 'Decipticons'.
5) Where was Bay-Prime shown to be taking multi-thousand tonne bomb hits..?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
2) And they are built into his arms. Which would be ripped off most likely by Kong anyway. 70s Kong ripped trains apart with his bare hands.
Are you f*cking kidding me?
You respond to Prime's possessing ranged weaponry, often times many times more advanced than modern conventional firepower, by pointing out that Kong could rip them apart?
Like, do you honestly believe a BJJ black belt could take out a trained guy with a gun standing 20 meters away because he knows how to get him into an armbar? I wouldn't be surprised, given your laughable and cartoonish analysis of this entire fight.
3) Ahhh so you claim its H2H victory to Prime via range weapons? lol Not very H2Hish at all.
😆 Please, feel free to point me to where the OP specifies H2H only. Because that sounds like nothing more than a pathetic attempt to nerf Prime's most obvious tactical advantages so that you can scream KONG!!! in orgasm.
4) You rage misspelt. Its not 'Decipticons'.
😆 😆 🤣
You nitpick my spelling (of a fictional group), and in the same sentence confuse "its" and "it's"?
5) Where was Bay-Prime shown to be taking multi-thousand tonne bomb hits..?
Scorponok does, who Prime is far more powerful than. If you wish to argue that the former is unusually durable compared to the leader of the autobots, I'd point out that Sentinel and Prime both take multiple (presumably sabot) missile rounds in Dark of the Moon. The point, either way, is that they've tanked punishment far superior to "I die to WW1 biplanes" Kong.
Not that any of this matters. Lestov and I are throwing you a bone by not replying to every one of your posts with "Prime shoots Kong in the head". This would even apply to Giant King Kong. Explosives > flesh.
Originally posted by Master Han
Are you f*cking kidding me?You respond to Prime's possessing ranged weaponry, often times many times more advanced than modern conventional firepower, by pointing out that Kong could rip them apart?
Prime's magical weapons fallacies now?
I guess the rounds it fires can guarantee hits "just 'cause" too?
I guess the powerful, fast, agile Kong just slowly shuffles over to Prime and places Prime's barrel to the side of his head and begs Prime to fire, eh? 😖hifty:
Like, do you honestly believe a BJJ black belt could take out a trained guy with a gun standing 20 meters away because he knows how to get him into an armbar? I wouldn't be surprised, given your laughable and cartoonish analysis of this entire fight.
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If the BJJ guy is in fact King Kong, and his movement is not gimped, he has every chance at getting to Prime. Prime's gunarm is a one shot firing, slow rearming, slowass round putter outer those things floated slow against Megatron.
😆 Please, feel free to point me to where the OP specifies H2H only. Because that sounds like nothing more than a pathetic attempt to nerf Prime's most obvious tactical advantages so that you can scream KONG!!! in orgasm.
Since I said in the beginning of the thread that Prime would most likely win with energy weapons and swords (duh!) I think it laughable that you now rage like a little girl at the notion of Prime having to fight when his boomsticks and shanks are removed.
😆 😆 🤣
You nitpick my spelling (of a fictional group), and in the same sentence confuse "its" and "it's"?
(Master Han was fictional so why bother getting his name right.. right...? 🙄 )
Scorponok does, who Prime is far more powerful than. If you wish to argue that the former is unusually durable compared to the leader of the autobots, I'd point out that Sentinel and Prime both take multiple (presumably sabot) missile rounds in Dark of the Moon. The point, either way, is that they've tanked punishment far superior to "I die to WW1 biplanes" Kong.
Not that any of this matters. Lestov and I are throwing you a bone by not replying to every one of your posts with "Prime shoots Kong in the head". This would even apply to Giant King Kong. Explosives > flesh.
Being smashed like a TFs toy that could launch a slightly annoying bee sting level destruction to Kong's tough skin and fur is kinda what Prime could expect in that scenario.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Prime's magical weapons fallacies now?
I guess the rounds it fires can guarantee hits "just 'cause" too?
I guess the powerful, fast, agile Kong just slowly shuffles over to Prime and places Prime's barrel to the side of his head and begs Prime to fire, eh? 😖hifty:
Massive strawman combined with sophistic exaggerations.
This is the equivalent of mocking someone's claim that a soldier with a drawn, functioning firearm would defeat a master martial artist at a distance of 20 meters by laughing at the notion of "magical" guns and "guarantee" hits.
Your argument does not work for the same reason you don't bring a knife to a gunfight. And LOL @ your claim that Kong can avoid bullets in a straight up fight because he's "fast and agile". The next time you get mugged, I look forward to whether you think you can evade bullets because you've been running track.
If the BJJ guy is in fact King Kong, and his movement is not gimped, he has every chance at getting to Prime. Prime's gunarm is a one shot firing, slow rearming, slowass round putter outer those things floated slow against Megatron.
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Kong not only cannot move his entire body sideways faster than Prime can move his arm (which is why guns almost always win), but wouldn't even understand the danger of Prime's weapon.
Since I said in the beginning of the thread that Prime would most likely win with energy weapons and swords (duh!) I think it laughable that you now rage like a little girl at the notion of Prime having to fight when his boomsticks and shanks are removed.
You admitted that Kong would "be in trouble", but that he "stands a chance".
So, if you wish to concede the point, feel free to state unconditionally so, instead of your passive aggressive disclaimers.
And seeing that you are not the OP, you have no authority to remove his "boomsticks and "shanks".
Well sorry about that Mr.Hin.
(Mr.Han was fictional so why bother getting his name right.. right...? 🙄)
Interesting that you cleverly dodge my pointing out your hypocrisy - that you misused "its" while trying to play linguistic police. Do you understand the irony? Oh, it's so much better when they don't get it.
Prime is bigger than Scorponok.
You would be more assuming that presuming.
Classic evasion tactic. You missed the point: Prime has better durability feats.
Being smashed like a TFs toy that could launch a slightly annoying bee sting level destruction to Kong's tough skin and fur is kinda what Prime could expect in that scenario.
You dodged the point (again).
Explosives > flesh. Do you agree?
Oh ok. So if you're asking me: "Do you think Prime can win a fight between Kong (provided that Prime can keep all his weapons and Kong is the smallest weakest Kong portrayed) if Kong is unarmed, and possibly drugged to eliminate any fast agile movement/aggressive countering actions?"
Then yes is the answer to that incredibly pointless question which you seem to be putting forth.
Depends on the explosive, the flesh, and the properties and proximities involved. I refer you to the Armageddon firecracker analogy.
Oh Prime has the better durability feats..?
Really? Didnt look it at all, during ROTF and again at the end of DOTM...
I missed an apostrophe.
You were Prime/Tfs wanking, and misspelt 'Decepticon'.
(You also noted that you don't value the correct spelling of a name that is fictional, yet spend your evening arguing on the subject apparently valueless fictional group, whilst insinuating that your 'opponent' in debate is unaware of irony LOL)
You therefore lose. Thanks for playing. 🙂
The smackdown.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh ok. So if you're asking me: "Do you think Prime can win a fight between Kong (provided that Prime can keep all his weapons
Which is a given per the OP’s lack of disarming Prime of armaments built into his body. Exactly what gives you the right to arbitrarily alter the thread’s parameters?
and Kong is the smallest weakest Kong portrayed)
Learn to read better: I pointed out that Prime would win against any remotely grounded incarnation of Kong if he gets his firearms. You, yet again, ignore my argument and instead pose a ridiculous strawman distortion at your convenience.
if Kong is unarmed,
😆 Of course he’s unarmed…
and possibly drugged to eliminate any fast agile movement/aggressive countering actions?"
…are you full of shit?
Your continued insistence that Kong can evade supersonic projectile weaponry through “fast agile movement” extends beyond wank – it delves into literal delusion.
That Kong, even at the absolute fastest that we him, could possibly defeat a being pointing a modern+ projectile weapon at his ass has to be the one of the most retarded arguments in the board’s history.
Like, just, no.
Never mind the fact that you’ve yet failed to produce any empirical evidence of Kong’s being able to move his entire body faster than Prime can move his arm. There’s a reason why you don’t f*ck with guns.
I missed an apostrophe.
You were Prime/Tfs wanking, and misspelt 'Decepticon'.
ROFLAMO are your bringing in a contention completely unrelated to this specific point to pad your ridiculously weak argument.
You learn the difference between “its” and “it’s” in primary school. Did you learn how to spell “Decepticon” in primary school? Do you honestly believe remembering how to spell a fictional proper noun is more important than one of the fundamental rules in the English language?
Never mind that neither mistake has any relevance to the validity of our respective contentions – you brought it up, presumably, to sound intelligent. It didn’t work.
(You also noted that you don't value the correct spelling of a name that is fictional
So let’s compile your utter failures into a concise list:
1. You insist on altering the OP’s parameters to arbitrarily strip Optimus Prime of weapons built into his body and character.
2. You delude yourself into asserting, without any evidence whatsoever, that King Kong has sufficient agility to charge an opponent armed with repeating projectile weaponry and win.
3. You insist that tanking modern missiles and depleted uranium tank rounds are not impressive durability feats.
4. You laughably shift your position on multiple occasions, flip flopping between different versions of Kong and various thread parameters at your convenience.
5. You create various imaginary strawman positions, then attack them to conceal your utter failure at actually addressing the primary contentions of the debate.
Checkmate.
LMFAO at the notion that Kong can compete with that.
(Cue Sadsack Saddie claiming that we're using the Toho version, or some other retarded dodge 😆 )
Also, can I get a post from the OP saying this is a H2H fight? Otherwise, Saddie is being a hypocrite and not holding himself to the standards he holds for others. DOUCHE. Even though Prime would probably rip Kong apart even without any weapons, the OP didn't exclude weapons, and thus Optimus gets them and rams his blade up Kong's ass.
I'm going to LOVE hearing whatever bullshit they come up with to counter this 😆
Even if Prime sticks to just his fists, he has built in spiked knuckles and ripped Shockwave(one of the most dominating Decepticon's in all 3 movies) nearly in half with a single punch to his side. And he was breaking limbs and denting chassis with pure h2h without using any weaponry.
He's also shown to be one of the fast Autobots, probably just shy of Bumblebee's speed.
Even ignoring the obvious speed advantage of being able to transform into an automobile, Kong can't move faster than bullets, nor can he move his entire body at a higher angular velocity than Prime can rotate his arm, either which would be necessary to charge Optimus's firepower and come out on top.
He wouldn't be able to transform when bent and broken at certain points, most likely..
Kong wouldn't have to move faster than bullets, just Prime's demonstrated-to-be-slow 'laser' weapon, that is not a rapid fire weapon. Easliy avoided by something with Kong's instinct. (A quality that Bay Prime would most likely lack)
Kong messed up pretty much all he faced in the 2005 kongage, but paled into insignificance next to 70s Kong or Godzilla Kong.
He could batter Prime and rip his limbs off..
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Good to see your wanksocks getting encrusted at the thought of Prime winning by using Melee and Range weapons against an unarmed Kong. Shows your mentality and desperation. 🙂
So you're just going to ignore KingD19's completely correct post, because it goes against your insane troll logic?
Originally posted by KingD19
Even if Prime sticks to just his fists, he has built in spiked knuckles and ripped Shockwave(one of the most dominating Decepticon's in all 3 movies) nearly in half with a single punch to his side. And he was breaking limbs and denting chassis with pure h2h without using any weaponry.He's also shown to be one of the fast Autobots, probably just shy of Bumblebee's speed.
Of course you will ignore his post, Sadsack Saddie. That's all you can do, because you're too stupid to understand it. 😂 You seem mentally incapable of simple arithmetic. The concept of logical reasoning would explode your brain like Scanners.