Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Juntai
All she did was slow him down long enough to find a solution to the problem. In this case, it meant her doing an act that has reverberated even to this day in killing a villain. It was her only option to stop him. Didn't you read the story? Or do you just look at scans online?

Without them knowing Max was the bad guy, when Booster plucked Ted Kord from time, she was unable to stop him.

I tried to find the story for you, tried to post it but I was unable to. I read the story, posted the scans on here a thousand times and know what went on. What I know is that Superman was trying to kill her and Wonder Woman clearly stated that she was holding back. Then when she decided not to hold back (dont ban me PR), she ended up getting the advantage in the battle and fled because she stated that her mission wasnt to kill Superman but to stop max lord.

Then she fly to the castle, confront max lord, Superman appears. She take off her tiara, slit his throat before he even had the chance to react and had an entire convo with max lord WHILE superman was still holding his neck and was in shock and broke max lord neck.

Answer this, what if she slit his throat and decided to end it. What if she got the tiara that came back to her hand, blitzed Superman while he waas holding his throat and used the tiara to incapitate him, or thousands of other things that could come to mind. What could a injured Superman have done to prevent her from pressing her attack? 😕

Originally posted by Juntai
All she did was slow him down long enough to find a solution to the problem. In this case, it meant her doing an act that has reverberated even to this day in killing a villain. It was her only option to stop him.

It was the only way to free Clark- but he was there, bleeding and vulnerable while she was still in good shape and capable of using the tiara or lasso or bracers again. Nothing was stopping her from attacking hard, and the holding his neck to prevent bleeding out is an obstacle to defense.

She could've used the opportunity to knock him out, but as Max pointed out, that's a temporary solution at best, he wakes up, Max gets him going again. Against Diana or someone a lot less capable of standing up to him.

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Anyway, opinions on what can be done in the final post-slice situation aside, I think you gotta badly misread Sacrifice to get from it the idea that Wonder Woman can't give a non-holding back Superman a really good fight. Diana even said she was holding back a hair since she only wanted him stopped.

Diana is a bad broad.

Originally posted by Q99
Because she was only out for a few moments- any impact would wake her up, she was not deep under.

She's pretty darn close to Superman in strength, Spectre and Batman have both pretty much said she's the second strongest being on Earth.

It's not suspicious when multiple people are all reading the same stuff.

Way to ignore half the fight, in which she actually did win. He's really strong, but she was still victorious because, while he was 'too strong', she was skilled, quick, and has magic gear that let her turn things around.

The only reason he couldn't tell where she was was due to her actions- something she could do to Sentry too.

It's not like she hasn't taken him on on multiple occasions and done fine. I can think of three where she's at least drawn. Sentry's less skilled. So if Superman only has a small edge against her but is capable of losing if he makes a mistake, someone who's significantly less skilled than Superman's at a disadvantage.

It's no use saying that Diana's not right near Superman in power and capable of giving him a really hard fight when it's happened many times before.

And heck, Superman knows how her powers work. The tiara, the lasso, the bracers? All complete surprises to Sentry.

A vague statement with no real weight to it. Marvel can match Superman's strength while WW can't. Pretty much.

Oh ok, I was just thinking maybe posters use different emails when one account gets banned. Maybe I am wrong but I am sure it's been done before not suggesting anything really just typing put loud.

She didn't win because of her strength she fled the scene and caught him by surprise basically. I give her a few wins due to her superior reflexes and skill, but more often than not Superman beats her down due to his superior strength and his durability is also better than hers meaning he can take more damage.

Sentry's more powerful than Superman imo. He has powers he is just discovering to boot. Him at his best is just too much. WW couldn't take on Photon or take repeated WW Hulk punches while the sentry has.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it stated why she woke up. If she didn't re enter an atmosphere she wasn't waking up, bottom line.

A vague statement with no real weight to it. Marvel can match Superman's strength while WW can't. Pretty much.

Oh ok, I was just thinking maybe posters use different emails when one account gets banned. Maybe I am wrong but I am sure it's been done before not suggesting anything really just typing put loud.

She didn't win because of her strength she fled the scene and caught him by surprise basically. I give her a few wins due to her superior reflexes and skill, but more often than not Superman beats her down due to his superior strength and his durability is also better than hers meaning he can take more damage.

Sentry's more powerful than Superman imo. He has powers he is just discovering to boot. Him at his best is just too much. WW couldn't take on Photon or take repeated WW Hulk punches while the sentry has.

Strength means almost nothing when it comes to fights where the two are of vicinity strength. Strength only plays a role in these type of fights when wrestling is involved. If not, then all that matters is skill, speed, and if each character is strong enough to hurt or stun the other.

Both here are strong enough to at least stun the other. Diana has the skill and sufficient speed, so what actually matters is a timely combo. Since Diana can easily achieve this after countering one of Sentry's attacks then she has a good chance to win. Also, the lasso is another option too.

Originally posted by h1a8
Strength means almost nothing when it comes to fights where the two are of vicinity strength. Strength only plays a role in these type of fights when wrestling is involved. If not, then all that matters is skill, speed, and if each character is strong enough to hurt or stun the other.

Both here are strong enough to at least stun the other. Diana has the skill and sufficient speed, so what actually matters is a timely combo. Since Diana can easily achieve this after countering one of Sentry's attacks then she has a good chance to win. Also, the lasso is another option too.

Sentry's latest feat really has this in the bag for him. If you want to go cbr route i can play and based off their averages sentry is more durable and a lot more powerful. One combo isn't going to do anything save enrage him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry is more powerful. A lot more so.

Sentry's latest feat really has this in the bag for him. If you want to go cbr route i can play and based off their averages sentry is more durable and a lot more powerful. One combo isn't going to do anything save enrage him.

If Sentry tries what he did to MM on Diana then he wins (if he pulls if off before she hits him). But I doubt it would be in his character to do this to a woman (a hero at that).

If we go the averages route then WW is far stronger, faster, more skilled, and more durable than Sentry. But none of that matters since she will simply combo him to ko.

not using sentrys new found powers i think diana wins. SKILL and reflexs i think will trump his strength, and durability advantage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it stated why she woke up. If she didn't re enter an atmosphere she wasn't waking up, bottom line.

That's unsupported. The reentry was the only stimulus she had after the hit. It happened to be the thing that woke her up, but that's a lot different than saying it's the only thing that could wake her up.

A vague statement with no real weight to it. Marvel can match Superman's strength while WW can't. Pretty much.

She can and has matched Marvel's strength in their fights, so, yea. It's also not vague statements, Batman's said that Superman is the only hero on Earth who can restrain Wonder Woman when push comes to shove (said with Martian Manhunter in the room no less, ouch!).

Both her and Marvel are a hair below Superman if you ask me. When they're casually going at it with arm wrestling they're calm, but Superman can push harder in a fight. They're also empowered by just about the same gods and Diana's matched the source of Marvel's strength in strength.

In any case, they're all rated 'A-1' by Checkmate and clearly close enough to hurt each other as have happened on many occasions, the specific 'just how much is she a bit below Superman?' doesn't matter a ton.

I give her a few wins due to her superior reflexes and skill, but more often than not Superman beats her down due to his superior strength and his durability is also better than hers meaning he can take more damage.

Yea. My view on their fight is "Superman wins after a long slowly degrading stalemate for Diana, unless he makes a mistake," like being caught offguard by the Tiara.

And that's Superman. Superman's skill is a lot above Sentry's. A bit more power but a wider skill gap works in Wonder Woman's advantage. If Superman and Sentry each throw, say, 10 punches, and let's say she blocks or avoids half of Superman's, she'll block or avoid 7-8 of Sentry's. Her win, that the punches are a bit more powerful doesn't matter as much as the increased gap of skill.

WW couldn't take on Photon or take repeated WW Hulk punches while the sentry has.

She has taken Doomsday, Amazo, etc. punches.

Diana won't do as good as Sentry in just trading hits with WWH, but she'd be fighting him differently anyway so it's not like that matters a lot. With her own style, she'd be doing fine.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Sentry tries what he did to MM on Diana then he wins (if he pulls if off before she hits him). But I doubt it would be in his character to do this to a woman (a hero at that).

If we go the averages route then WW is far stronger, faster, more skilled, and more durable than Sentry. But none of that matters since she will simply combo him to ko.

BTW, Sentry destroyed female Adaptoid, female Ultron, and tore of MLF's head.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Sentry tries what he did to MM on Diana then he wins (if he pulls if off before she hits him). But I doubt it would be in his character to do this to a woman (a hero at that).

If we go the averages route then WW is far stronger, faster, more skilled, and more durable than Sentry. But none of that matters since she will simply combo him to ko.

You are one of the most illogical people I have ever heard. When has a combo ko'd Sentry in a heartbeat by the by?

Originally posted by Q99

That's unsupported. The reentry was the only stimulus she had after the hit. It happened to be the thing that woke her up, but that's a lot different than saying it's the only thing that could wake her up.

She can and has matched Marvel's strength in their fights, so, yea. It's also not vague statements, Batman's said that Superman is the only hero on Earth who can restrain Wonder Woman when push comes to shove (said with Martian Manhunter in the room no less, ouch!).

Both her and Marvel are a hair below Superman if you ask me. When they're casually going at it with arm wrestling they're calm, but Superman can push harder in a fight. They're also empowered by just about the same gods and Diana's matched the source of Marvel's strength in strength.

In any case, they're all rated 'A-1' by Checkmate and clearly close enough to hurt each other as have happened on many occasions, the specific 'just how much is she a bit below Superman?' doesn't matter a ton.

Yea. My view on their fight is "Superman wins after a long slowly degrading stalemate for Diana, unless he makes a mistake," like being caught offguard by the Tiara.

And that's Superman. Superman's skill is a lot above Sentry's. A bit more power but a wider skill gap works in Wonder Woman's advantage. If Superman and Sentry each throw, say, 10 punches, and let's say she blocks or avoids half of Superman's, she'll block or avoid 7-8 of Sentry's. Her win, that the punches are a bit more powerful doesn't matter as much as the increased gap of skill.

She has taken Doomsday, Amazo, etc. punches.

Diana won't do as good as Sentry in just trading hits with WWH, but she'd be fighting him differently anyway so it's not like that matters a lot. With her own style, she'd be doing fine. [/B]

She never matched him in strength she matched him in combat which is a huge difference. You seem to remind of of a former WW fan I just can't place which one. 3 come to mind who left out context left and right praising WW all over the place.

Marvel holds back against Superman as well. :/

Superman usualy isn't being mindcontrolled and Diana can't flee the scene like she did in that issue. If it were that easy why not do so way back when?

Sentry has taken punches from WW Hulk in fact he was flying into them and was doing fine. She lacks his strength and even if Sentry chooses to fly into her punches he can tank them easily at his best.

She lacks the healing powers of the Hulk and his strength so she loses and badly to an all out Sentry.

Originally posted by r0nm0n88
not using sentrys new found powers i think diana wins. SKILL and reflexs i think will trump his strength, and durability advantage.

WW for now.

Originally posted by The Nuul
WW for now.

Sentry for now.
If he gets more feats this would be spite

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he is resisting his milecules being messed with a ko is beating him? Hahahahahahahahahah.

You are one of the most illogical people I have ever heard. When has a combo ko'd Sentry in a heartbeat by the by? It was the main factor in causing her to re awaken.

A combo could last for seconds, minutes, hours, years, etc. The length of time is irrelevant. All that matters is that each blow stuns (prevents character from acting) and adds more stun to the overall stun effect of the victim. The overall stun effect increases to a point where the victim will lose consciousness and thus be koed.

Now if the victim is able to act while he/she is being comboed then the combo wasn't a combo after all, by definition. So when "combo" is mentioned it is understood that a character cannot act during the combo.

Quan vs H1.

This is going to be the most interesting IQ busting debate in years.

Originally posted by Blanket
Quan vs H1.

This is going to be the most interesting IQ busting debate in years.

Diana has better regular showings. However, current Sentry should take it.

Originally posted by h1a8
A combo could last for seconds, minutes, hours, years, etc. The length of time is irrelevant. All that matters is that each blow stuns (prevents character from acting) and adds more stun to the overall stun effect of the victim. The overall stun effect increases to a point where the victim will lose consciousness and thus be koed.

Now if the victim is able to act while he/she is being comboed then the combo wasn't a combo after all, by definition. So when "combo" is mentioned it is understood that a character cannot act during the combo.

Originally posted by Blanket
Quan vs H1.

This is going to be the most interesting IQ busting debate in years.

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