Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Started by JakeTheBank63 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sorry, but MM+ abilities and Thor+ power and Photon Genis-Vell-level energy abilities doesn't make Sentry lesser r too one-dimensional. Your characterization evinces a shocking disregard of Sentry's actual capabilities. He's not a brick.

Good job backtracking and making this not about the lasso. It's about everything else. Wonder why you and everyone else spent so much time on Sentry's weak psyche though. Because a strong psyche doesn't render the lasso ineffective. At all. In which case, the entire time people talk about Sentry's weak psyche, they're just presenting red herring bullsh1t that has nothing to do with how this fight plays out OR just bashing the character in order to detract from his immense power.

Funny that.

No, it's taking into account how Sentry's been portrayed as a whole, not picking just what I like. And Diana's use of the lasso is more consistent than MM+ abilities, Thor+ power, and Photon Genis-Vell level energy capabilities. Unless you want to bring in Void-try/Void into this.

His weak psyche is more likely to cause the lasso's power to harm him drastically. People of stronger psyches/souls have endured the lasso and its power with mild or no discomfort. And people without souls are ineffected, period. Ares convulsed when Diana lassoed him and wasn't even conscious enough to direct the lasso. And he was crazier than shit. Unless Sentry has shown that his soul is immune to such things or that he simply does not have one, why should we assume it doesn't happen?

More pointedly, why should we assume Diana won't use the lasso when decades of her history point to her using it often enough to consider it to be a viable tactic in a forum match?

All things considered, Sentry and Wonder Woman are likely around the same level in Durability and Strength. I think WW is faster than Sentry and more skilled. They both have offensive energy powers. Sentry's are better. Diana has a defense to his energy powers. He has no defense to hers. Magical lightning. And he has no defense to her lasso or tiara. Plus she's faster and a better fight and more skilled. No way Sentry can win this.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
To assess this fight, all we gotta do is look at WW's main enemies or fights. And if Sentry can beat them, he can beat her. Circe, Ares, Genocide, Amazo, Cheetah, Super Woman, Superman, Doomsday etc. How does Sentry fair against WW foes?

He beats all of them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He beats all of them.
based upon what? One showing against Molecule Man? Wasn't that Voided?

Originally posted by Comics Queen
All things considered, Sentry and Wonder Woman are likely around the same level in Durability and Strength. I think WW is faster than Sentry and more skilled. They both have offensive energy powers. Sentry's are better. Diana has a defense to his energy powers. He has no defense to hers. Magical lightning. And he has no defense to her lasso or tiara. Plus she's faster and a better fight and more skilled. No way Sentry can win this.

Wrongo. He will win easily. Hell he can simply remove her will to fight like he did with Hulk.

If this is void try he wins no contest. And quite frankly, void try/ sentry are the same characters. The only way diana has a chance of winning is if we limit the sentry to the earlier portion of his history where he didn't hadn't realized the full potential of his powers. Aside that, he stomps.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrongo. He will win easily. Hell he can simply remove her will to fight like he did with Hulk.
I was unaware Wonder Woman and Hulk were made the same. Wonder Woman's will comes from the God's. She is a godling. I doubt He can remove her will.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
based upon what? One showing against Molecule Man? Wasn't that Voided?

It wasn't "voided" in any way more than the bulk of his showings... there's always some void in sentry and some sentry in void. I think that showing is definitely applicable to the sentry in this thread.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
I was unaware Wonder Woman and Hulk were made the same. Wonder Woman's will comes from the God's. She is a godling. I doubt He can remove her will.

And I doubt she can't. Why would she be immune. I'm sorry but her being a "godling" means zip, we've seen what Sentry does to godlings in a fight, he is on a different level entirely. And to be frank Hulk's willpower far exceeds most characters, divine or mortal.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
I was unaware Wonder Woman and Hulk were made the same. Wonder Woman's will comes from the God's. She is a godling. I doubt He can remove her will.
godling doesn't mean jack. ares is a god, and he cant even beat wolverine. god is a title that doesn't mean all that.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
based upon what? One showing against Molecule Man? Wasn't that Voided?
He used these powers again in dark avengers after this showing.

Originally posted by Starscream M
godling doesn't mean jack. ares is a god, and he cant even beat wolverine. god is a title that doesn't mean all that.
Ares has never showed the powers that Diana has.

Originally posted by Naija boy
If this is void try he wins no contest. And quite frankly, void try/ sentry are the same characters. The only way diana has a chance of winning is if we limit the sentry to the earlier portion of his history where he didn't hadn't realized the full potential of his powers. Aside that, he stomps.

I totally agree. There is really no sharp point where one is "Sentry" and the other is "void"... even when it was crab-void sentry was still exerting his will upon it to a degree.

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Ares has never showed the powers that Diana has.

lol. so you admit that being a godling means zip. What SHOWINGS does WW have to show that she would be more capable of resisting than hulk?

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol. so you admit that being a godling means zip. What SHOWINGS does WW have to show that she would be more capable of resisting than hulk?

She's been shown to be immune to telepathy and other forms of mental intrusion under her own power.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
She's been shown to be immune to telepathy and other forms of mental intrusion under her own power.

And so has hulk, many times.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
She's been shown to be immune to telepathy and other forms of mental intrusion under her own power.
Also being in possession of the lasso boost her mental fortitude.

Originally posted by King Kandy
And so has hulk, many times.

Sentry calmed Hulk's rage. Since when is that sapping someone's will? And since when does WW ever fight in a rage?

Originally posted by Comics Queen
Also Being in possession of the lasso boost her mental fortitude.

By how much? Sentry has TP at X-Man's level if not higher.

Originally posted by King Kandy
And so has hulk, many times.

In addition, Diana has the lasso which also bolsters mental defenses to see nothing but the truth if she encircles it on herself.

Do you have the scan in context where Sentry saps the will from Hulk? And has he done this numerous times before?