Ethnic aliens

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont have a problem with DC but it seems that Marvel seem to be lacking in this area. Im mainly talking about mainstream black characters, if you added all the black superheroes in the marvel universe it would be alot but it would still be alot less than white.

Thor is slavic 😱

Originally posted by Bentley
Thor is slavic 😱

Originally posted by jalek moye
well it should be alot less then white seeing as how most of their mainstream stories take place in the U.S.

I actually worked out the number of black mutants to white and it came to something like 2%. Thats nowhere near representative of the US

Originally posted by jalek moye

But they could use a little more mainstream or bump up some of the c listers.

Yeah I think bringing back Black Goliath was stupid, that guy sucked. Thats precisly what were talking about. Hudlin brought him back simply because he was black. Instead of bringing back a character that sucked he could have created a better black superhero.

Im suprised Hudlin hasnt done this, its a perfect opportunity.

Originally posted by jalek moye

Aslong as they arnt copies of mainstream chars with different ethnicites

Agreed.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
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Im suprised Hudlin hasnt done this, its a perfect opportunity.

You know, I'm just talking about kryptonians here. It's not because I'm white, that I want to see white characters everywhere in comics. Because the world is more diverse than that.

And I don't think getting with the times meaning having to change everything, always. I wonder if the filmmakers behind The Lord Of The Rings, felt pressure to put in dark-skinned, non-white elves or hobbits, to counter the dark-skinned orc & goblin armies (along with their human allies, 'darker- skinned' men from the south.) But, they stuck to what Tolkien created, and there was few charges of a subconscious racial bias in showing good vs. evil.
Not like the charges of racism George Lucas got for Star Wars & The Empire Strikes Back ( Darth Vader is a black villian, they charged.) Lucas claims he got complaints about how they were no puerto ricans in SW, saying you can't win these things.

Originally posted by roughrider
You know, I'm just talking about kryptonians here. It's not because I'm white, that I want to see white characters everywhere in comics. Because the world is more diverse than that.

Kinda confused, I didnt say you wanted to see white characters everywhere im just stating if you are white you would be less concerned, not because you are racist but its just human nature.

Originally posted by roughrider

And I don't think getting with the times meaning having to change everything, always. I wonder if the filmmakers behind The Lord Of The Rings, felt pressure to put in dark-skinned, non-white elves or hobbits, to counter the dark-skinned orc & goblin armies (along with their human allies, 'darker- skinned' men from the south.) But, they stuck to what Tolkien created, and there was few charges of a subconscious racial bias in showing good vs. evil.

Middle-Earth was based alot on Norse Lore where there were hardly any black people so theres no need to add black characters in that setting.

I dont think it has anything to do with the time but just letting a reality based on our own reality be realistic in terms of ethnicity.

Originally posted by roughrider

Not like the charges of racism George Lucas got for Star Wars & The Empire Strikes Back ( Darth Vader is a black villian, they charged.) Lucas claims he got complaints about how they were no puerto ricans in SW, saying you can't win these things.

Anyway that sux I guess but still doesnt change the fact thats its good to have mimorities in a world based on our own. Like one oif the actors in Heroes said it would be absurd to make all the characters white because obvously if there was a superhuman gene it would affect all races.

Do you remember when they started to put in black vulcans in Star Trek, for the Voyager series?
Some might consider that addressing an imbalance. I think it was unnecessary (or maybe because that particular actor looked silly with the pointed ears.)

Originally posted by roughrider
Do you remember when they started to put in black vulcans in Star Trek, for the Voyager series?
Some might consider that addressing an imbalance. I think it was unnecessary (or maybe because that particular actor looked silly with the pointed ears.)

As a black person why on earth would I find it silly? You have white vulcans why cant you have black ones? Is alien DNA more llikely to become caucasian or something?

Its a similar thing to what the guy in heroes said eventhough its not based on earth you would expect their to be black aliens if there were white ones.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Its a similar thing to what the guy in heroes said eventhough its not based on earth you would expect their to be black aliens if there were white ones.

Considering they're aliens I can't see any reason we should expect that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
As a black person why on earth would I find it silly? You have white vulcans why cant you have black ones? Is alien DNA more llikely to become caucasian or something?

Its a similar thing to what the guy in heroes said eventhough its not based on earth you would expect their to be black aliens if there were white ones.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Considering they're aliens I can't see any reason we should expect that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Its a similar thing to what the guy in heroes said eventhough its not based on earth you would expect their to be black aliens if there were white ones.

Originally posted by jalek moye
i dont see why an alien race that devlops white looking people needs to develop black ones. the kree have white and blue but no black. The skrulls are just green. You don't have to have multiple ethnicites for aliens just human chars.

That because its a fictional universe. In a fictional universe most superhumans in marvel come from the USA, like the actor in heros said it would be absurd for there to be only white superhumans because obvoulsy if there was a superhuman gene it wouldnt just make white superhumans. The same principle could be applied to aliens.

You are also growing up in less racist times so its fo less concern, but like I said im not particularly bothered now but in the past it did bother me.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That because its a fictional universe. In a fictional universe most superhumans in marvel come from the USA, like the actor in heros said it would be absurd for there to be only white superhumans because obvoulsy if there was a superhuman gene it wouldnt just make white superhumans. The same principle could be applied to aliens.

but it shouldn't be. I'm fine not seeing a purple skrull or anything weird like that. and i think krees are fine without having blacks just white and blue. Some alien races might only be white becuase the area where their people come from develops that. I support multiracial human chars but not always aliens ones.

Originally posted by jalek moye
but it shouldn't be. I'm fine not seeing a purple skrull or anything weird like that. and i think krees are fine without having blacks just white and blue. Some alien races might only be white becuase the area where their people come from develops that. I support multiracial human chars but not always aliens ones.

I see what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. The same way we expect to see black superhumans we should expect to see black aliens.

Sure on some planets its possible for there to be only white aliens, but when you have loads of white aliens and no black aliens then it becomes strange.

You wouldnt expect the X-gene to affect only white people would you expect an alien gene to only create white humanoids?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I see what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. The same way we expect to see black superhumans we should expect to see black aliens.

Sure on some planets its possible for there to be only white aliens, but when you have loads of white aliens and no black aliens then it becomes strange.

You wouldnt expect the X-gene to affect only white people would you expect an alien gene to only create white humanoids?

i'm not saying only create white ones. but just dont add black ones to existing ones that havnt shown any

Originally posted by jalek moye
i'm not saying only create white ones. but just dont add black ones to existing ones that havnt shown any

You know something I think I agree.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I see what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. The same way we expect to see black superhumans we should expect to see black aliens.

Sure on some planets its possible for there to be only white aliens, but when you have loads of white aliens and no black aliens then it becomes strange.

Does this address the imbalance? 😄

*shrug* Yeah it does but obvouldy back in the day those were far and few between.

Originally posted by roughrider
Does this address the imbalance? 😄

isnt that the same guy that got shot up by a big white robot in terminator 2? 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
isnt that the same guy that got shot up by a big white robot in terminator 2? 😛

Oh, you mean Linda Hamilton?
Yeah, that's right. 😛