well you gotta take into consderation that the ppl just wanted to sell comics even if they themsleves had to sell out sort of....remember the the whole industry as we know it now was singlehandedly created by a bunch of jewish,(and other immigrants) 20 somethings literally like in thier parents basement...and they werent in any position to come outta the gate swinging for social cuases. thats why Jacob Kurtzberg, and Stanley Lieber among others had to change and/or shorten thier names...to combat the open and accepted racism of that time..
me personally, i dont give two shits either way, ive never wondered why there werent any black kryptonians cuz all i cared about was supes...but the thing i found hilarious was that there were aliens in comicdom of all colors and shades except black....unless it was literally the actual color "black"...black K-tonians showing up now is not a bad thing to me at all, but i dont think it should be made into a primary issue though...then it would just seem cheap and lame to me...and dont forget insulting
Originally posted by manjaro
well you gotta take into consderation that the ppl just wanted to sell comics even if they themsleves had to sell out sort of....remember the the whole industry as we know it now was singlehandedly created by a bunch of jewish,(and other immigrants) 20 somethings literally like in thier parents basement...and they werent in any position to come outta the gate swinging for social cuases. thats why Jacob Kurtzberg, and Stanley Lieber among others had to change and/or shorten thier names...to combat the open and accepted racism of that time..
Yeah sure.
Originally posted by manjaro
me personally, i dont give two shits either way, ive never wondered why there werent any black kryptonians cuz all i cared about was supes...but the thing i found hilarious was that there were aliens in comicdom of all colors and shades except black....unless it was literally the actual color "black"...black K-tonians showing up now is not a bad thing to me at all, but i dont think it should be made into a primary issue though...then it would just seem cheap and lame to me...and dont forget insulting
Well yeah to be quite honest im not even a DC fan let alone Superman fan I just think its cool.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
this is completely off topic but, I despise the power balance between minorities and white characters. they always seem to be oozing potential where as minorities are typically street level
Maybe thats because people associate black as 'street'. 😛
Honestly I would think a super advanced civilization like the Kryptonians should be a uniform mix off all races without any sort of colour distinction left like I'm sure the human race will be somewhere down the line, but our buddy Clark Kent is about as white as you can get so I guess it makes sense.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
this is completely off topic but, I despise the power balance between minorities and white characters. they always seem to be oozing potential where as minorities are typically street level
umm, the spectre? 😛
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Kingons.
there's an 'l' in there somewhere...
Perhaps Phantom Zone's point is - if there are humanoid alien races out there like Kryptonians or Vulcans, then they should be raised in an enviroment similar to Earth; so, there should be different coloured versions of them in the seperate corners of their planet. Just like Earth.
If that is his point, then I concede there's something to that.
Originally posted by roughrider
Perhaps Phantom Zone's point is -
That actually sounds quite patronsing when my point was quite simple, you also make it sound like nobody got my point.
Originally posted by roughrider
if there are humanoid alien races out there like Kryptonians or Vulcans, then they should be raised in an enviroment similar to Earth; so, there should be different coloured versions of them in the seperate corners of their planet. Just like Earth.
If that is his point, then I concede there's something to that.
It doesnt neccesarily have to be a similar evinronment but having a similar evinronment helps.
Even if the envinronment was drastically different but created white aliens by default it should also be able to create black aliens to.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
This thread reminds me of that one GL issue where a black guy tells Hal how he heard about him helping the blue skinned people, orange skinned people, etc. but he never did anything for the black skinned peopleDoes anyone have that scan?
it should be on wiki, iirc.
just in case...
question. in the case of the kree their is white and blue. thats ethnic. i mean why does ethnic need to mean 'black' ? im puerto rican and am bummed out not to have any real cool hispanic heroes but i always figured when it cames to aliens the kree where the only with any diversity other than earth. yet i see ppl complaing about the kree.
kree are pink or blue.. what i want to see are black Shi'ar. [since they are all white and imperial-ish]
i see the need to ask why, why are the majority of the aliens shown just white, or just...uhh..skrully lol. id love to see a planet of peaceful but powerful black ppl. it would be badass. i think alien spieces that share our looks and have similar biology should have some sort of Ethnicity.
be it black, blue or green =D just not all white/pink.
Icon is a black alien. enjoy him until more come.
I'm a bit confused. Why the hell would you expect any kind of alien species to have similar skin colors or be multi-racial ala Earth if they're FREAKING ALIENS? 🤨
Darkseid is grey. Stone grey. So is Thanos. Adam Warlock is yellow goldish. Surfer is chrome. Ronan the Accuser is light blue. So are the Guardians. Sinestro is ****ing pink. Mysa Nall of the LSH is solid white.
And these are just the bipedal humanoid races. There are countless races that have no human shape to begin with.
Expecting a black skin color just to conform to some vague HUMAN idea of ethnicity is idiotic. Do you need them to conform to human standards of behavior and morality too? 👇
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm a bit confused. Why the hell would you expect any kind of alien species to have similar skin colors or be multi-racial ala Earth if they're FREAKING ALIENS? 🤨Darkseid is grey. Stone grey. So is Thanos. Adam Warlock is yellow goldish. Surfer is chrome. Ronan the Accuser is light blue. So are the Guardians. Sinestro is ****ing pink. Mysa Nall of the LSH is solid white.
And these are just the bipedal humanoid races. There are countless races that have no human shape to begin with.
Expecting a black skin color just to conform to some vague HUMAN idea of ethnicity is idiotic. Do you need them to conform to human standards of behavior and morality too? 👇
If you're going to be a dick about it like you usually are in dbates.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I see what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. The same way we expect to see black superhumans we should expect to see black aliens.Sure on some planets its possible for there to be only white aliens, but when you have loads of white aliens and no black aliens then it becomes strange.
You wouldnt expect the X-gene to affect only white people would you expect an alien gene to only create white humanoids?