Ethnic aliens

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

An article about non-white krptonians. I personally think its a good thing to have ethnic diverse alien races. I used to find its strange that most humanoid alien races where white. Like one of the actors in heroes stated it would be absurd to make all the heroes white and the characters should reflect the real world.

In a nutshell with regards to alien races? Most established comicbook characters/franchises/groups etc were created over 40 years ago. Ethnic minorities then were either absent,rare or poorly portrayed in all forms of media.It is just how things were. Ergo most alien races would be shown as white, just as most characters would be white.*shrugs*

Guess that's why a lot of newer characters are more diverse.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If you're going to be a dick about it like you usually are in dbates.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm a bit confused. Why the hell would you expect any kind of alien species to have similar skin colors or be multi-racial ala Earth if they're FREAKING ALIENS? 🤨

Darkseid is grey. Stone grey. So is Thanos. Adam Warlock is yellow goldish. Surfer is chrome. Ronan the Accuser is light blue. So are the Guardians. Sinestro is ****ing pink. Mysa Nall of the LSH is solid white.

And these are just the bipedal humanoid races. There are countless races that have no human shape to begin with.

Expecting a black skin color just to conform to some vague HUMAN idea of ethnicity is idiotic. Do you need them to conform to human standards of behavior and morality too? 👇

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Trick just LAID DOWN THE LAW

Originally posted by jalek moye
he has a point those other colors are ethnic too.

No he doesnt. Lets takes this for example

I'm a bit confused. Why the hell would you expect any kind of alien species to have similar skin colors or be multi-racial ala Earth if they're FREAKING ALIENS?

The point is they do. I dont expect aliens to resemble humans but if they resemble white people I would expect aliens to resemble black people.

This part of his post was really moronic.

Expecting a black skin color just to conform to some vague HUMAN idea of ethnicity is idiotic. Do you need them to conform to human standards of behavior and morality too?

LOL dont comic creators base alien characters on humans? So basically hes implying that its idiotic for aliens to conform to human standards of behiaviour when aliens actually do and somehow think that backs up his point about ethncity, the guys a moron.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No he doesnt. Lets takes this for example

I'm a bit confused. Why the hell would you expect any kind of alien species to have similar skin colors or be multi-racial ala Earth if they're FREAKING ALIENS?

The point is they do. I dont expect aliens to resemble humans but if they resemble white people I would expect aliens to resemble black people.

This part of his post was really moronic.

Expecting a black skin color just to conform to some vague HUMAN idea of ethnicity is idiotic. Do you need them to conform to human standards of behavior and morality too?

LOL dont comic creators base alien characters on humans? So basically hes implying that its idiotic for aliens to conform to human standards of behiaviour when aliens actually do and somehow think that backs up his point about ethncity, the guys a moron.

Originally posted by jalek moye
i was talking about his point with humaniod ones that are grey and all other kinds of crazy colors

...and what point does that prove? The whole point of his post was to somehow prove what I was saying was idiotic, the guy even in his own post even provided reasons as to why you should have black aliens and he didnt even notice.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
...and what point does that prove? The whole point of his post was to somehow prove what I was saying was idiotic, the guy even in his own post even provided reasons as to why you should have black aliens and he didnt even notice.

Originally posted by jalek moye
that just becasue they are human like does mean they have to have the same ethnicities. even though his post for more of a bash against you that statement was actually good.

The statement itself was good but his whole argument was complete and utter fail. I wouldnt expect aliens to resemble humans at all but if I kept meeting white aliens I would find it strange for there to be no black ones. If no aliens in comics looked nothing like human beings then he would have a point.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL dont comic creators base alien characters on humans?

nowadays, not really, actually.

Originally posted by Raoul
nowadays, not really, actually.

Please elaborate because that seems to be impossible. Human beings cant help using humanity as a basis.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Please elaborate because that seems to be impossible. Human beings cant help using humanity as a basis.

Originally posted by jalek moye
then you havnt seen how weird things in outspace in DC comics

I was mainly concerned with human behaviour in that quote.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Please elaborate because that seems to be impossible. Human beings cant help using humanity as a basis.

yes, a basis that they make their aliens as different from as possible. look at kryb, or the orange lanterns, or the annihilation wave. they don't just look different, they act different.

Originally posted by Raoul
yes, a basis that they make their aliens as different from as possible. look at kryb, or the orange lanterns, or the annihilation wave. they don't just look different, they act different.

....so what happened to all the human looking and acting aliens in the A-Wave? So because there are lots of non human looking and acting aliens, means that nowhere days they dont base aliens on humans, despite the fact there are loads of examples of human looking and acting aliens?

It could be argued the reason why the A-wavw was non-human looking was because they were supposed to be scary and even then Annihilus does actually resemble a human being like Hitler.

What about the Blue Lanterns and Atrocitus and The Red lanterns? Remember where not just talking about appearance but behaviour.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
....so what happened to all the human looking and acting aliens in the A-Wave? So because there are lots of non human looking and acting aliens, means that nowhere days they dont base aliens on humans, despite the fact there are loads of examples of human looking and acting aliens?

It could be argued the reason why the A-wavw was non-human looking was because they were supposed to be scary and even then Annihilus does actually resemble a human being like Hitler.

What about the Blue Lanterns and Atrocitus and The Red lanterns? Remember where not just talking about appearance but behaviour.

human acting and looking aliens? like the kree, who've been around for donkeys years?

i'm talking about brand new aliens, say, in the last decade. for every single one that may act even remotely human, there's always two or three that are different.

Atrocitus and the Red Lanterns are nothing like humans. The lanterns themselves are driven purely by an instinctual hate. they don't have rationality or compassion or anything else. atrocitus is an evil bastard, even if he is a little rational. even the most evil of humans loves something.

i think people also have to consider that, when it comes to people like saint walker and the blue lanterns, that them being white isn't a social or racial thing. they aren't being made caucasion (and i really need to stress the difference here). they're being made WHITE. a colour which doesn't exist among human kind, bar albinos, who are social outcasts. irony ftw.

people that we would call "white" are really bright shades of brown or pink.

in the case of the kryptonians, sure, diversity is nice. any race without asian women is losing out, imo. as regards the kree and so on? nah...

Also, Paul, remember that rational is pretty relative.

What may seem like rational choices to us, might not be to them.

Originally posted by Raoul
human acting and looking aliens? like the kree,

You spoke about making aliens look as different as possible and gave the A-Wave as an example alot of the A-Wave looked like insects including Annihilus. So obvoulsy on the other side of the spectrum in not just talking about aliens with blue skin like the Kree but that includes aliens with green skin pointy ears and other weird features that look strange but still have simliarities to humans and act human eg Thanos's small companion (who basically looked like a fairy) ...and there are many more examples.

Originally posted by Raoul

i'm talking about brand new aliens, say, in the last decade. for every single one that may act even remotely human, there's always two or three that are different.

Again its going to be another case of me having to take your word for it while the facts I know dont support your argument. Thanos had a limited series and in that series there were loads of new aliens. Even some of the A-Wave looked human such as The Centurions.

Originally posted by Raoul

Atrocitus and the Red Lanterns are nothing like humans. The lanterns themselves are driven purely by an instinctual hate. they don't have rationality or compassion or anything else. atrocitus is an evil bastard, even if he is a little rational. even the most evil of humans loves something.

As you know im mainly a marvel man so I really cant comment on DC, however marvel does not support your case.

Originally posted by Raoul

i think people also have to consider that, when it comes to people like saint walker and the blue lanterns, that them being white isn't a social or racial thing. they aren't being made caucasion (and i really need to stress the difference here). they're being made WHITE. a colour which doesn't exist among human kind, bar albinos, who are social outcasts. irony ftw.

You seem to be saying two thing:

1. The Blue lanterns behave like humans, which doesnt support your argument.
2. Them not being white isnt racial. I never said it was, but maybe you are adding your 2cents.

Eternals are based off of humans, because they behave like them.

Eternals came before humans, but whatevas. Acting like human beings clearly mean you were based off of them.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Eternals are based off of humans, because they behave like them.

Eternals came before humans, but whatevas. Acting like human beings clearly mean you were based off of them.

Eternals arent aliens unless they rectconned that shit.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Eternals arent aliens unless they rectconned that shit.

Once again, there's the definition of alien.

You think that because humans have displayed compassion or kindness, the blue lanterns are somehow based off of humans, simply because they display those traits.