Originally posted by Placidity
Its called a Super Nova, not "fireballs".
Actually it's called "supernova," which you appear to be taking rather literally. He doesn't explode, he just gets really, really hot.
And he kills his teammates in the process while all Jedi with brains run away.
Reference for their speed. Skip to 6:50.
Use your brain.
The hypocrisy makes this impossible for you to pull off.
Oh wait, whenever someone doesn't have "telekinteic resistance" it means Jedi can manipulate them however they want,to whatever level. Right.
Uh, why wouldn't they? What
is Spiderman going to do if a Jedi is holding him up above the ground with a lightsaber in hand?
No, there is no doubt at all. Sith/Jedi lose this. You've apparently admitted this, but go on to make more BSarguments.
"Admitted?" My opinion was the outset was that Marvel would win thanks to the three aforementioned characters. You came at me twice with some bullshit or another completely ignoring what I'd already said. In fact, this was my first post in the thread:
Me
Since [EU characters/abilities] don't appear in the movies, they can't be used here, so assuming he goes untouched Xavier is free to wreak havoc.
You'll obviously ignore the context in which this was posted, but I won't be surprised.
Point?Jedi can use force choke from a far distance on high speed targets?
Johnny can go "supernova" and actually do something from a far distance?
And actually, as I've already pointed out, Vader choked someone on an entirely different starship in ESB.
What feats listed weren't shown on-screen?
Against
Jedi, Placidity. That's where the
speculation would come in.
Whether you think Spider-man can web up a Jedi while he is engaging at least 5 other characters trying to kill him
This is atrociously structured, but I gather from your earlier and equally inane post that you mean the
Jedi has five other characters trying to kill him.
See below.
your opinion although the answer is fairly obvious.
I don't even know what this means.
The point is, he has shown that he CAN webb up people,
Not while being held in the air. Ha, speculation, I win!
Xavier has shown that he CAN mind rape,
Not in a combat scenario. Ha, speculation, I win!
Don't argue with me if you're not willing to or incapable of getting down to the details.
Sue Storm has shownshe CAN set up shields.
And Force-users have shown the ability to get
past structural barriers.
SW fanboys are making up feats that aren't shown.
Levitating things? Yoda in AotC, Dooku in RotS, Luke in ESB. Pushing, pulling? Just about every movie aside from ANH. Speed? TPM. Lightning? Dooku in AotC, Sidious in RotS and RotJ. Attacking through barriers? Vader in ESB.
So what feats exactly am I making up? If you're referring to Dr. Will Hatch, his arguments are not my arguments, so bringing him up in a reply to me is stupid.
So no, my fanboy friend, pure speculation is what the SW fanboys are doing.
Is there a reason
aside from the fact that you can't debate for shit that you're calling me a fanboy?
Then Team Marvel wins. The fact you are still trying to make counters for low/mid-levels like Spiderman implies you think SW Team can win.
No, it
means that I think your arguments in support of the side
I'm backing are idiotic.
Also, do you realise this post is for all the SW Fanboys in this topic. Or are you so important that you somehow represent everyone?
You're embarrassing...
Creative.
And for a second, lets assume DP, SS and Xavier aren't included, you still don't have a counter for the fights I've listed. All you can do is make mediocre arguments on a 1v1 Basis, like Spider-man can't web up a Jedi. What you don't do, is account for how the Jedi has his hands full and theres no way he can take on that many people at once.
You
deliberately stacked the fight in an obscenely retarded manner by pitting
nine of the
dozens of available SW movie characters against every Marvel movie character that came to mind.
Hell, you made up movie characters. When the hell has Super Skrull ever been in a Marvel movie?
Well, you're not very smart for making assumptions instead of following what the topic starter said.
The thread starter has posted
three times. Want to see what he said?
Thread Starter
a royal fight between them, which character will prevail?
and aTeam fight, which group will win?You can use any character at his maximum power
Marvel movies that i remember
Hulk/abomination
Spiderman/Green Gobling/Octopus/Venom/Sand man/new Gobling
Ironman
Dare devil
All the X men
etc
I was refering to any jedi or sith show in the movies only, i can name the ones i rememberQui Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Yoda ,Mace Windu,Ploo Koon, Kit Fisto, Shakk Ti (Jedi council movie)
Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Grievous (not a Jedi, but capable enough)
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious/Palpatine
Jango fet (not a Sith or Jedi, but capable)
Luke Skywalker
Obi wan Kenobi
if i let one out, you can make me remember, and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)
for the marvel movies characters that i remember
The fantastic four (include Dr Doom)
Blade
X men movies, heroes and villians
Electra
Dare Devil
Man thing
Ironman
Spiderman
I know some characters from these movies are easy to the jedi but i wonder what do some of you think it will happen with characters like
Venom
Dr octopus
Blade
Nightcrawler
Ciclops
Juggernaut
I did said in a royal battle wich characters stand to the end and which team prevail.
You're not too smart for
not reading what the thread starter posted.
But no it would be way more fair if we used every Jedi shown, including the ones in Ep2 and the Jedi Temple.
You listed
nine Jedi and Sith. There are at the
very least thirty or forty Jedi and Sith who appear in the credits [hence, "credited"].
In that case, we'll just use every mutant on Earth in the Xmen universe.
Except the thread starter specifies movie
characters, and you also can't define on
any level what "every [other] mutant" can do, so you're dealing with complete unknowns, which is
idiotic. At least with the Jedi you know what they're supposed to be capable of. There are power differences, but they all have the same core abilities.
Good, you've admitted defeat, now do us a favour and shutup.
See the above.
Also, I will report you if you call me a fanboy again. Not only is it redundant, stupid, and completely inaccurate, but you make even more of an ass out of yourself in the process than you do just by getting repeatedly owned by me.
And for the record, you started this:Me
Let's be serious here; movie Jedi and Sith are still good enough to beat or at least incapacitate most of the X-Men, Spiderman, Ghost Rider, the Fantastic Four, and the Punisher and Daredevil with either telekinesis or lightning, but they still get utterly raped by Phoenix, Xavier, and obviously, the Silver Surfer. Those three make this a completely one-sided battle.
You
What a load of shit. Super Nova. What you gonna do?
Screw that. Dark Phoenix, what you gonna do?
Screw that. Sandman, what you gonna do?
So you didn't read, you were trying to bait, or both.
Good job.