Jedi and Siths Vs Marvel moviesheroes and villians

Started by Dr Will Hatch17 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
That's okay, while he's making all the Sith lament over all the wrongs they've done in life, which I imagine is quit a few for most of them. All the other Marvel characters will be destroying the Jedi.

He also isn't useless against Jedi, he has powers, magical/supernatural powers, he's made up (at least in part) of 'hell fire', is superstrong, has insane levels of durability and can melt metal.

Tell me, can "the Force" affect magic and supernatural things, now?

Yes

"The Force pwns all". Love that quote, I laughed out loud.

If we take all from the Marvel Movieverse, then Imo they will win quite handly. Some of from the marvel team will be liabilities, Punisher, Daredevil, Bullseye, Wolverine, Lady Deathstrike, but on the other hand they got SS, Xavier, Human Torch, Doctor Doom, NightCrawler, Phoenix, Magneto, Callisto, Hulk, Invisible Women, Storm, Mephisto, BlackHeart, Ghost Rider, from my perspective marvel Simply wins on having a larger variaty of abilities then there advesaries.

Edit: Good for EU Palpatine that he toke out a Space Fleet and ravaged a planet... May I use Comic Galactus that destroyed 3 solar systems in a single blast?

Originally posted by Utrigita
If we take all from the Marvel Movieverse, then Imo they will win quite handly. Some of from the marvel team will be liabilities, Punisher, Daredevil, Bullseye, Wolverine, Lady Deathstrike, but on the other hand they got SS, Xavier, Human Torch, Doctor Doom, NightCrawler, Phoenix, Magneto, Callisto, Hulk, Invisible Women, Storm, Mephisto, BlackHeart, Ghost Rider, from my perspective marvel Simply wins on having a larger variaty of abilities then there advesaries.

P.S. Good for EU Palpatine that he toke out a Space Fleet and ravaged a planet... May I use Comic Galactus that destroyed 3 solar systems in a single blast?

Thread Starter
Originally posted by Vvendeta
I was refering to any jedi or sith show in the movies only, i can name the ones i remember

Qui Gon Jinn
Darth Maul
Yoda ,Mace Windu,Ploo Koon, Kit Fisto, Shakk Ti (Jedi council movie)
Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader
Grievous (not a Jedi, but capable enough)
Count Dooku
Darth Sidious/Palpatine
Jango fet (not a Sith or Jedi, but capable)
Luke Skywalker
Obi wan Kenobi

if i let one out, you can make me remember, and maybe is fair to use some feats from them in the spanded universe if they are confront agians silver surfer and Galactus cloud, but only feats write in the book, not invented things like create a black hole (if they didint do it in the books, then doesnt count, even if is mention they could)

Reading is good.

And before anyone else starts bitching at me about how unfair it is [it still isn't], I didn't make the thread. If you have a problem, take it up with vvendeta or deal with it.

Originally posted by Utrigita

P.S. Good for EU Palpatine that he toke out a Space Fleet and ravaged a planet... May I use Comic Galactus that destroyed 3 solar systems in a single blast?

No, only written material that bodes well for SW can be used, you can even make up shit and/or use your own intrepretations (if it helps) of the movies/franchise.

E.G. It was hinted that Anakin is Jesus, so he's God and has God's powers in this fight.

Hey Ultrigita, maybe we should bring up comic Phoenix, who can destroy the entire universe with a thought.

Or Magneto and Xavier psyche's mixing to form Onslaught?

Originally posted by Publius II
Reading is good.

And before anyone else starts bitching at me about how unfair it is [it still isn't], I didn't make the thread. If you have a problem, take it up with vvendeta or deal with it.

Merely a request to the thread starter, that if he think that he can allow books to be used in a Movie Versus forum, then I think that he should open up for the Marvel side to take in some feats from the comics as well, so merely a question 🙂

To KingD19: No need for that, I think Galactus can handle it himself 🙂 but I I think Xaviar manipulating the whole Skrulls home planet would be enough... and lets overlook that his powers has vastly increased since then.

Originally posted by Publius II
Reading is good.

And before anyone else starts bitching at me about how unfair it is [it still isn't], I didn't make the thread. If you have a problem, take it up with vvendeta or deal with it.

(we've already covered this)

And he said "maybe", i.e. asking the question.

It's very telling when one side has to be amped up to even have a chance of winning. So yes, if you boost one and gimp the other, any desired outcome can be had, horray for SW.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Merely a request to the thread starter, that if he think that he can allow books to be used in a Movie Versus forum, then I think that he should open up for the Marvel side to take in some feats from the comics as well, so merely a question 🙂

To KingD19: No need for that, I think Galactus can handle it himself 🙂 but I I think Xaviar manipulating the whole Skrulls home planet would be enough... and lets overlook that his powers has vastly increased since then.

Why? They are different universes. Movie Victor Von Doom is but a pale shadow of the "real" Dr Doom.

Yes he is but would you say that Movie Luke, Movie Yoda ore Movie Sideous isn't a pale shadow next to their comic/book/cartoon counterparts?

No because much of the powers they have were unnecessary during the time frame, or were used in a more subversive manner.

Yeah, book Luke fought so fast that it seemed like 20 lightsabers were all going at the same time at full speed.

Everyone in the movies is toned down, but Marvel still takes it, movie and especially comic.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, book Luke fought so fast that it seemed like 20 lightsabers were all going at the same time at full speed.

Everyone in the movies is toned down, but Marvel still takes it, movie and especially comic.

Better than that. Luke is f*cking uber in the EU. He is almost omnipotent really.

If we want to use expanded, Luke and even Galen Marek(Vader's apprentice) still get beaten.

Originally posted by Robtard
(we've already covered this)

And he said "maybe", i.e. asking the question.

It's very telling when one side has to be amped up to even have a chance of winning. So yes, if you boost one and gimp the other, any desired outcome can be had, horray for SW.

He said "maybe [it's] fair to use [EU feats]," which technically it is, although it's against the rules.

Basically, until he reads this and changes the parameters to make EU feats and abilities null, people need to stop whining. Otherwise, have the thread closed for breaking the rules. He also failed to specify where all of these combatants are situated, so we have know way of knowing... anything.

Originally posted by Dr. Will Hatch
Better than that. Luke is f*cking uber in the EU. He is almost omnipotent really.
Will you please stop talking out of your ass? Luke is nowhere near omnipotent, he never overpowered Palpatine in the final battle of RotJ, and he never created black holes.

As someone else pointed out, this isn't your version of Star Wars.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
No because much of the powers they have were unnecessary during the time frame, or were used in a more subversive manner.

Unnecessary? I failed to see the unnecessary when Yoda struggled to keep the metal construction up in AOTC, but basically with a gesture in the cartoon pushes a MTT back into another before closing the doors on one of those landing ships, before moving his hands together and make them collide... Why on earth didn't he do that on Kashyyyk?

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, book Luke fought so fast that it seemed like 20 lightsabers were all going at the same time at full speed.

Everyone in the movies is toned down, but Marvel still takes it, movie and especially comic.

And rooted himself so deep in the force that a Black hole couldn't move him, shielded himself from lava, Invented Emerald Lightning, shielded two planets from view with the force.

Quote: Will you please stop talking out of your ass? Luke is nowhere near omnipotent, he never overpowered Palpatine in the final battle of RotJ, and he never created black holes.

As someone else pointed out, this isn't your version of Star Wars./

Yeah, I did overstep my bounds there *frowns*
However, his mastery over the Force cannot be denied. He has done things that are almost on a level of comics Dr Strange. HE isn't omnipotent, but is widely regarded as practically a deux ex machina. Luke and "The Force" pretty much fills the same void. And he can't create black holes because it is a dark side power. 🙄

QUOTE:Unnecessary? I failed to see the unnecessary when Yoda struggled to keep the metal construction up in AOTC, but basically with a gesture in the cartoon pushes a MTT back into another before closing the doors on one of those landing ships, before moving his hands together and make them collide... Why on earth didn't he do that on Kashyyyk?/

Because Palpatine could have been using the Dark Side to influence Dooku. Dooku was powerful, but Yoda more so. Palps gave him a "boost" maybe? It was meant to push Anakin further over the edge by having his life on the line for the first time in his life. In most Clone War battles, Palps just let Yoda and the Jedi do their thing, so to speak.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's okay, while he's making all the Sith lament over all the wrongs they've done in life, which I imagine is quit a few for most of them. All the other Marvel characters will be destroying the Jedi.

He also isn't useless against Jedi, he has powers, magical/supernatural powers, he's made up (at least in part) of 'hell fire', is superstrong, has insane levels of durability and can melt metal.

Tell me, can "the Force" affect magic and supernatural things, now?

Well fortunately for the SW argument there are far more Jedi than Sith.

Do we see Ghost Rider killing innocents? I mean we see him running from the cops, but when confronted with an innocent (non evil being) he just walks away. So, according to the movie, Ghost Rider will not fight against an innocent being. Even one who clocks him with a nightstick.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Because Palpatine could have been using the Dark Side to influence Dooku. Dooku was powerful, but Yoda more so. Palps gave him a "boost" maybe? It was meant to push Anakin further over the edge by having his life on the line for the first time in his life. In most Clone War battles, Palps just let Yoda and the Jedi do their thing, so to speak.

I fail to see how Dooku have any relevance to the sudden shift in the powerdifference that Yoda portrayed. Unless of cause that you are assuming that Dooku kept pressure on the crane which the force which you have from... nowhere, instead if I recall Correctly Anakin and Obi Wan helped Yoda with the crane.

Originally posted by KingD19
Movie jedi can leap away from lightning travelling at 60,000 miles per hour?????? I call bullshit.
No, but they will realize the attack even as Storm thinks it. They will have a few seconds to leap away. I never said they would just dodge it, their precog will come into play.

If they can block it, I wonder for how long? I'm pretty sure Iceman/Storm/Pyro/Torch can keep their powers going for a long time. Also, water is tangibel, you can touch water. You can't touch streaming cold or fire, those are ephemeral.
Again, as soon as Iceman or Pyro think "You know, I wanna set them afire/freeze them, the Jedi will be on the move, out of the line of fire, and attacking with the force or their lightsabers. Jedi move far too fast for Iceman or Pyro to follow with their attacks.

Obviously, you're forgetting Greivous' Magna Guards, the big robots with the pink tipped energy staffs. That's Phrik, look it up.
It's never mentioned in the movie that it is frick metal, only on SW sites or wiki. EU bullshit. And frick metal does not exist here.

Ghost Rider will own any Sith
Agreed.

, and if he can't Penance a jedi, he still has his chains, his hellfire, his hellfire shotgun, and his bike, and his strength and resistance to damage.
Name one time when Ghost Rider attacked an innocent.

So you're saying Wolverine would have to fight a focused Dooku for him to get killed, because he's the only one who demonstrated holding people still. And the only one who demonstrated Choke was Anakin, so they would have to work together to kill Wolverine correct?
No, Wolvie would fall with any half trained Jedi. As soon as he nears, all they have to do is force push him away and KO him, Magneto style.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I fail to see how Dooku have any relevance to the sudden shift in the powerdifference that Yoda portrayed. Unless of cause that you are assuming that Dooku kept pressure on the crane which the force which you have from... nowhere, instead if I recall Correctly Anakin and Obi Wan helped Yoda with the crane.
From what I know about Dooku(not enough), I think the power "granted" by Palpatine in addition to Dookus power would be enough to distract them so he could run away. Keep in mind that they were in a war zone, which Sith thrive on, and that clouded the Jedis collective minds.