Silver Surfer vs Thor (Pure Physical Slugfest)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Depowered and cut off from the PC Surfer physically grappled with Gladiator Hulk, then easily overpowered him and tossed him into a wall. This was after kicking the asses of the rest of the Warbound. Then Surfer got ganked by Hulk and Hirom (sp?), got hit once...gave up defending himself, and got smashed again...

While he was trying, Surfer was clearly superior.

Originally posted by kgkg
when Hulk first saw SS he thought he was his friend. SS hit Hulk once and send him flying. Then Hulk jumped him and broke disk.

They locked up and were pushing against one another. And Surfer simply overpowered him and threw him backwards into the wall. That makes Surfer stronger. What's the difficulty?

Originally posted by kgkg
He wasn't really beating Hulk
when Hulk first saw SS he thought he was his friend. SS hit Hulk once and send him flying. Then Hulk jumped him and broke disk.

Your would call that one punch a beating?

As Enyalus said the important part is after the first hit where surfer and Hulk lock up and then surfer fairly easily overpowers him and tosses him away. After this he then continued to easily overwhelm multiple warbound members.

Note im not saying surfer wins( i gave thor the win here) just that his strength is comparable with thors

Originally posted by Enyalus
That makes Surfer stronger. What's the difficulty?

The fact that it makes Hulk weaker.

no it doesn't, all it means is that surfer naturally (he was weakened) is strong enough to hang with a "calm" wwh. both of them can increase their strength exponentially if the need arises.

but are we using current thor now or classic? current thor took the destroyer's desintigrator beam to the cheast and was pretty much fine after that, and stated during the bor fight that his odin force kept him alive. his durability now is far higher.

great! two b-level heroes fighting. how boring.

Originally posted by shokosugi
great! two b-level heroes fighting. how boring.

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Originally posted by Enyalus
I just said how. It takes everything Thor has to go mono-a-mono physically with the Hulk, for instance. Surfer's easily overpowered him on two occasions (one of which while he was cut off from the PC), beat down Skaar w/ Old Power physically, put Ravenous on his knees, physically stalemated Champion w/ Quantum Bands (who claimed to be stronger than when he possessed the PG), etc.

IMO Current SS is stronger than Classic Thor. Current Thor doesn't really have any strength feats, so...

Current Thor does not have any physical feats?! OMG.. dude... Current Thor matched the Godslayer Skrull that flattened Beta Ray Bill! With BRB lifted asgard. Matched Skyfather Bor in strength..

Originally posted by shokosugi
great! two b-level heroes fighting. how boring.

stop trolling.

Originally posted by Starscream M
surfer winning against hulk is an impressive h2h feat

You silly ignoramus.

Read the right.

Odinforce Thor FTW

Originally posted by shokosugi
great! two b-level heroes fighting. how boring.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You silly ignoramus.

Read the right.

By right, I meant comic.

I think the Surfer is too durable for Thor sans hammer to really damage. However, Surfer's not a warrior at heart. He's the less skilled and less experienced h2h fighter (supposedly). If Thor doesn't fight like a brick, the Odinson makes the better showing in what will eventually end as a stalemate.

Originally posted by Mindship
I think the Surfer is too durable for Thor sans hammer to really damage. However, Surfer's not a warrior at heart. He's the less skilled and less experienced h2h fighter (supposedly). If Thor doesn't fight like a brick, the Odinson makes the better showing in what will eventually end as a stalemate.

If Thor doesn't fight like a brick, hand to hand?.....

Note that he killed Hulk after several hours, the strength and healing factor of Banner should logically be far beyond the Sufer's by that time.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
If Thor doesn't fight like a brick, hand to hand?.....

Originally posted by Enyalus
They locked up and were pushing against one another. And Surfer simply overpowered him and threw him backwards into the wall. That makes Surfer stronger. What's the difficulty?

Two important facts is that Hulk wasn’t excepting that from surfer / 2nd it was just one push

It was a good showing for Surfer especially for a depowerd by disk and wormhole

That fight did not indicate Surfer was Stronger

Originally posted by kgkg
The difficulty is that it does not make Surfer stronger
One showing like that doesn't mean much since most of Hulk's fight starts slow and then he starts doing better.

Two important facts is that Hulk wasn’t excepting that from surfer / 2nd it was just one push

It was a good showing for Surfer especially for a depowerd by disk and wormhole

That fight did not indicate Surfer was Stronger

There's still his showing against Enraged Hulk (back in 79...or was it the early 80's) where he easily catches Hulk's punch and then drains the gamma out of him to revert back to Banner. Ya catch someone's punch easily, chances are you're stronger. Then like I mentioned before about Champion, etc. There are other examples. Surfer's stronger, even without amping.

back in the sixties in terms of strength at marvel, hulk was the strongest mortal on earth bar none, then thor was created to be his superior due to him being a god, and then you have norrin radd the alien from space. hulk was third in strength back then with thor or surfer taking the top spot.

now it's more skewed with all the upgrades and the fact that these three rarely fight each other, and when they do it's not all out.

but imo the odin force is a huge reason to say thor wins, he's pretty much invulnerable to sky-father level attacks and his offensive output is enough to kill one as well. thor for the majority.

Originally posted by Enyalus
There's still his showing against Enraged Hulk (back in 79...or was it the early 80's) where he easily catches Hulk's punch and then drains the gamma out of him to revert back to Banner. Ya catch someone's punch easily, chances are you're stronger.

All the hulk vs Surfer fight surfer ends up using energy blast while hulk is always pounding him in physical combat nothing Surfer has shown puts him over hulk h2h.

Then like I mentioned before about Champion, etc. There are other examples. Surfer's stronger, even without amping.

Surfer is OK in H2H stronger than Hulk is unfounded