Xenosaga vs. Final Fantasy

Started by GrieverSquall13 pages

Yeah indeed, I just try to add a bit of humor because this thread is also sad by fan-boys incapable of understanding that an statement IS a fact.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Remember... Insulting or attacking me WON'T change anything at all.

I have, not as you, but since I've played I do have knowledge, how's possible I couldn't?

You have NO evidence that is non-canon, you say is non-canon because it refutes all your arguments.

Listen up, mate. I don't need conversations from the characters nor events in the game to know that in Xenosaga there's a Universe that is formed by Domains, you don't have to be a genius to realize that simple fact in general. You have no point here. I don't have to back anything because the one claiming that Xenosaga is multiverse is YOU, so the burden of proof is in YOU, not in me. And since it is already stated such topic in the Perfect Guide you should shut up and accept the fact.

That's something that fits you.

You have NO evidence that I have't played the games, you're being ridiculous now. You sound like a broken record.

Great... Now is an statement by a retarded fan that an Official source such as the Perfect Guide is fallacious. Do me a favor and stop your incoherent rant before you hurt yourself.

That's irrelevant information that you throw here for no apparent reason, oh wait... I think is because you left nothing but spite. That's sad.

Like I said before, you have absolutely NO evidence that such Official source is non-canon, look at you, you're just a obsessed fan. I suppose you know more about Xenosaga that the companies and the ones that pusblished and made the Perfect Guide which is Official and is all about the game's plot? They would like to have a word with you. 😂

The broken record keeps functioning... What a pain. I accept all of what you have just said, BUT like saying that refutes something about the entire Universe itself, yeah sure. You can't accept that SINGLE FACT, and you, instead, are bringing irrelevant information, without evidence, without a basis whatsoever, just rant, rant, rant and more rant.

You are just repeating yourself here.
'Each possess an [b]individual time axis and space axis
, but as a whole, they are elements that form one universe.'

They refers to the Lower/Upper Domains here. Which mentioned elements forms ONE UNIVERSE.

Because you're showing to be an immature kid. Maybe you are not, but by showing it... Defensive? Are you you looking at what you write? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING. You're making yourself look retarded, no offense.

😄 The hypocrisy... [/B]

case in point. this ENTIRE post as well as all other before it havent ONCE quoted the game, a character's quote, an event or the in game database. infact u havent even MENTIONED anything other than the perfects guide. then you try your best to weasel your way out of any question that dares you to quote anything in game that supports your argument. and when the opposition comes to the very justified conclusion that you have never played the game, yor answer is "NO!".

😆 😆 😆

i got a real kick out of you dismissing the marvel handbook connection as irrelevant. you are SO scared that your fraud will be found out that you wont even try to dismiss it categorically, like any respectable fraud wud. ull avoid it altogether.

FACTS. the game had TWO teams of writers. the first QUITE after episode one. the second was FORCED to reduce it from 9 games down to 3, condensing it. THEY are the ones which wrote the script and the in game database. the ONLY cannon sources from xenosaga. ofcourse because the game was squeezed, it made little sense to many people who played it unless they had knowledge of nitchze/freud/jung/gnosticism.

to try to reconcile that mistake, the PRODUCERS{i.e. the company tha funded development and owned the rights} commisioned a guide to forcefully reconcile things in the universe by a team that WASNT THE WRITERS of the original, and told them to make sense of everything. they did this by flat out denying and altering details and subtleties in the script and i game mythos and came up with the perfects guide. it is exactly the same situation as marvel with the marvel handbooks, only the difference is that the handbooks are sumwhat more valid due to the retcons that different writers bring to characters, no such luck for xenosaga.

and finally u fail to even undertsand that by definition, a UNIverse cant have different timelines/histories.

oh well i tried. humouring u is like humouring a mentally stunted duck at this point. ill leave u to your ignorance little fanboy

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Yeah indeed, I just try to add a bit of humor because this thread is also sad by fan-boys incapable of understanding that an statement IS a fact.

representative of ur mental level isnt it. assering a "statement" as fact without evidence. what a funny little sycophant.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
case in point. this ENTIRE post as well as all other before it havent ONCE quoted the game, a character's quote, an event or the in game database. infact u havent even MENTIONED anything other than the perfects guide.

Which states the only very fact it concerns here, the Universe formed by Domains, easy to understand, right? 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
then you try your best to weasel your way out of any question that dares you to quote anything in game that supports your argument. and when the opposition comes to the very justified conclusion that you have never played the game, yor answer is "NO!".

It doesn't matter what you think of me or not here, it matters that the Xenosaga Universe is formed by Domains and not by different other universes. 😉

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i got a real kick out of you dismissing the marvel handbook connection as irrelevant. you are SO scared that your fraud will be found out that you wont even try to dismiss it categorically, like any respectable fraud wud. ull avoid it altogether.

That marvel book or whatever is called has nothing to do with Xenosaga, so? 😐

Originally posted by leonheartmm
FACTS.

Is what concerns here, not your childish behavior.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the game had TWO teams of writers. the first QUITE after episode one. the second was FORCED to reduce it from 9 games down to 3, condensing it. THEY are the ones which wrote the script and the in game database. the ONLY cannon sources from xenosaga. ofcourse because the game was squeezed, it made little sense to many people who played it unless they had knowledge of nitchze/freud/jung/gnosticism.

Nope, I'm afraid that's not the only canonical source of Xenosaga, you're simply wrong. The Perfect Guide has detailed information.
I don't care about your interpretations/speculations either, after all you can't make a fact to disappear, can you?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
to try to reconcile that mistake, the PRODUCERS{i.e. the company tha funded development and owned the rights} commisioned a guide to forcefully reconcile things in the universe by a team that WASNT THE WRITERS of the original, and told them to make sense of everything. they did this by flat out denying and altering details and subtleties in the script and i game mythos and came up with the perfects guide. it is exactly the same situation as marvel with the marvel handbooks, only the difference is that the handbooks are sumwhat more valid due to the retcons that different writers bring to characters, no such luck for xenosaga.

Still doesn't mean is non-canon, that didn't make sense. If the Perfect Guide 'has' something that contradicts the game's Database, then it was ret-con. I HIGHLY doubt that anyway so doesn't count, the Perfect Guide has detailed information: i.e. the Universe itself is composed, formed by Domains, simple as that, come on.... Is not THAT hard. bangin

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and finally u fail to even undertsand that by definition, a UNIverse cant have different timelines/histories.

You fail to understand a SINGLE fact, a Universe can't be composed by different universes, as such the Perfect Guide states is composed by Domains, fact.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
oh well i tried. humouring u is like humouring a mentally stunted duck at this point. ill leave u to your ignorance little fanboy

Fan-boy of what? Of Xenosaga? You said I never played the games so I can't be a fan-boy by that logic. 🙄 On the other hand you said you have played them all and you stated that the Perfect Guide is fallacious, non-cann (without evidence) and that you are right and the rest are wrong, even the ones who made that Guide, here the fan-boy is another. YOU. 😛

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Which states the only very fact it concerns here, the Universe formed by Domains, easy to understand, right? 🙂

It doesn't matter what you think of me or not here, it matters that the Xenosaga Universe is formed by Domains and not by different other universes. 😉

That marvel book or whatever is called has nothing to do with Xenosaga, so? 😐

Is what concerns here, not your childish behavior.

Nope, I'm afraid that's not the only canonical source of Xenosaga, you're simply wrong. The Perfect Guide has detailed information.
I don't care about your interpretations/speculations either, after all you can't make a fact to disappear, can you?

Still doesn't mean is non-canon, that didn't make sense. If the Perfect Guide 'has' something that contradicts the game's Database, then it was ret-con. I HIGHLY doubt that anyway so doesn't count, the Perfect Guide has detailed information: i.e. the Universe itself is composed, formed by Domains, simple as that, come on.... Is not THAT hard. bangin

You fail to understand a SINGLE fact, a Universe can't be composed by different universes, as such the Perfect Guide states is composed by Domains, fact.

Fan-boy of what? Of Xenosaga? You said I never played the games so I can't be a fan-boy by that logic. 🙄 On the other hand you said you have played them all and you stated that the Perfect Guide is fallacious, non-cann (without evidence) and that you are right and the rest are wrong, even the ones who made that Guide, here the fan-boy is another. YOU. 😛

thus proving my point. u dont even want to TALK about ur complete lack of referencing the game itself and hence the conclusion that ur a liar whose only pretending he hasnt played the games. go on, i dare you, reference the game, dont hide behind rationalisation. uve only read the guide like the two bit fraud that u r. evidence.

i think talking to you at this point is useless. ur like the relegious nut who says "how come you deny to accept the truth of jesus and be saved?" and when you point that out just how full of holes their assertion is, they reply " whats wrong with you, why do you deny the truth of jesus?" . its an idiotic linguistic trick, the substitue "assertion" with "fact/truth" which allows them to avoid the argument altogether. u remind me of a less intelligent jia.

poor sycophant.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thus proving my point.

Nothing proves your point here, mate. At least not this point, maybe if you argue something else no related with the fact the Guide itself provides, you may be right.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u dont even want to TALK about ur complete lack of referencing the game itself and hence the conclusion that ur a liar whose only pretending he hasnt played the games.

Oh my God, I don't need to talk about the game in this case, I don't need any reference, isn't necessary. 🙁 Why don't you understand? We're talking about an statement here, thus is fact, thus your baseless opinion doesn't count, thus you're wrong. Your opinions and speculations aren't facts, I'm afraid. Call me whatever you like, you are not only ridiculizing yourself, but also the rest of the Xenosaga fans.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
dont hide behind rationalisation

😆 You don't even know what you're saying.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
uve only read the guide like the two bit fraud that u r. evidence.

You're funny, that's why I like replying to you, you have nothing left but

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think talking to you at this point is useless.

The irony of life... I thought exactly the same when you began being ridiculous. 🙄

Originally posted by leonheartmm
ur like the relegious nut who says "how come you deny to accept the truth of jesus and be saved?" and when you point that out just how full of holes their assertion is, they reply " whats wrong with you, why do you deny the truth of jesus?".
Originally posted by leonheartmm
its an idiotic linguistic trick, the substitue "assertion" with "fact/truth" which allows them to avoid the argument altogether. u remind me of a less intelligent jia.

And you remind me of the typical fan-boy trying to persuade a fact.

I put this so people can know your pathetic world.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
poor sycophant.

Poor irrational/incoherent/unbeliever/ fan-boy. 🙁

Originally posted by GrieverSquall

We're talking about an statement here, thus is fact

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honestly this is comic gold. i really have to do nothing but sit back and let u speak.

p.s. still waiting u to cut the bullshit and quote ANYTHING at all from the actual game to prove that uve played it. i think ill be waiting for a long time.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
honestly this is comic gold.

I know, right? You're really funny.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i really have to do nothing but sit back and let u speak.

I reply to you just in my free time, I keep my time busy with coherent people. 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
still waiting u to cut my bullshit

Fixed. Will do. 😉

Originally posted by leonheartmm
quote ANYTHING at all from the actual game to prove that uve played it

Ok... Hmm... ANYTHING you say? Well, I know Allen likes Shion. 😱

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think ill be waiting for a long time.

You'll be frozen in time or something? Lol.

We're talking about an statement here, thus is fact

srry, whining wont hide this. and u got that from the guide. tell me, what is lemegeton? or how about the literal meaning of "metapsychosis" in the game guide.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
srry, whining wont hide this

Sorry, asking stuff that has nothing to do with one fact, won't hide this either.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u got that from the guide

Which is Official, yes.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
what is lemegeton?

A energy, something that can control the Zohar, I don't really remember.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
"metapsychosis" in the game guide.

You mean in the Perfect Guide? If that's so, I haven't reached that part yet. If you mean in the game Database, I haven't checked. But that is not the final boss from Episode III?

Now, how this changes the fact the the Universe is formed by Domains? Lol.

My bad there, the final boss was Zarathustra.

And here you have the definition of Encephalon, (this is not from the Perfect Guide) This is from the Database.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(DB105)-Encephalon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

An extremely realistic virtual space that can be created using U.M.N. location
data, the uploaded recorded memories, and activities of individuals stored in
the U.M.N.. The time and the place can be recreated as long as the data is
available.

Encephalon dive is the process of entering the virtual space constructed by the
Encephalon. Unvisited areas within the Encephalon can be explored because the
U.M.N. data supplements information missing from the divers memory.

However, the Encephalon is still and unstable, memory-dependent space. For this
reason, divers' memories that share a time and place have been known to
resonate and unintentionally replay.

The word Encephalon comes from the Greek word "brain."

NOTHING of that suggest that has something to do with the entire Universe at all, thus nothing of what you're trying to lay here refutes the fact that the Universe is formed by Domains.
This also agrees with me when I said in some of my old posts that it was a virtual world, and you laughed, guess what, you was always wrong. Your theories about different Universes will remain as theories, because is something that came from your own imaginations.

/Thread.

This was a truly epic battle of wits.

Anyway, so really all FF has going for it is Cosmos and Chaos. Everyone else is kinda screwed compared to Xenosaga's cosmics.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
This was a truly epic battle of wits.

Anyway, so really all FF has going for it is Cosmos and Chaos. Everyone else is kinda screwed compared to Xenosaga's cosmics.

Neo Exdeath and Ultimecia say Hi.