Watchmen

Started by Impediment50 pages

I'm gonna have to merge this with the already existing Watchmen thread in the Comic Book Movies forum, guys.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Yeah. I had the same problem with DKR as well. I see some clever symbolism in Watchmen, but I thought that Moores anarchist ideals were clumsily spelled out. The comic is too heavy handed for me.

It's a comic, dude. The fact the comic is even addressing those issue's (in such a blatant manner) deserves attention. Kingdom Come, may have handled Anarchy in a more eloquent fashion but Watchmen, was definitely the first of it's kind to interweave all of the elements that it did, so flawlessly. I'm by no means a Watchman cultist, but i just had to voice my opinion in hopes that you would care to explain why you feel the Ideals of anarchy were "clumsily spelled out"?

Alan Moore is an anarchist. Hes the only person who brings that aspect to comics the way it really is. Chaos. Doom, Anger, Depression. Anarchy is messy and he presents it that way

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Yeah. I had the same problem with DKR as well. I see some clever symbolism in Watchmen, but I thought that Moores anarchist ideals were clumsily spelled out. The comic is too heavy handed for me.

I always felt Watchmen is more about comics (and the Cold War obviously) than it is about anything else. Also, I think you mean exactly the opposite of "polemic" (that's apoliga).

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
I just wish Alan Moore had a better attitude about movies. I mean even if he doesnt want a movie its going to happen.

so he might as well put his effort into making it a good one instead of turning his back on it.

He did say it was the best script he could imagine.

I like looking at the RT reviews side by side: Too slavish, too much different.

Snyder never stood a chance.

Yeah, oh well. three or so days for me and i can make up my own mind. I'm often rather easy to please so im rather confident.

then again I did find fault with Iron Man

lol

I saw this movie a few weeks ago, and I have to say, it was really fantastic. Although I'm sure some super-fans will complain about the minor changes, but they really did work out for the best I feel.

A lot of the critics I've read dont get the spirit of the movie. They went in thinking it would be TDK2 instead of a movie that makes you reconsider what you think of the superhero genre as a whole. Jackie Earl Haley's Rorschach was my favorite part of the movie. He really hit it out of the park.

In other news check out this Watchmen Saturday morning cartoon, its one of the funniest things I've seen in awhile

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/485797

Originally posted by Prime#
I saw this movie a few weeks ago,
How?

Originally posted by Prime#
A lot of the critics I've read dont get the spirit of the movie. They went in thinking it would be TDK2 instead of a movie that makes you reconsider what you think of the superhero genre as a whole. Jackie Earl Haley's Rorschach was my favorite part of the movie. He really hit it out of the park.

That's been my concern about the movie since day one. How do you make a movie based on a comic whose sole purpose was the deconstruction the superhero genre, seem meaningful and interesting to the general public who has no understanding of the construction of the superhero to begin with.

True very true. so the the most we can do is hope it appeals to those who actually know what they are talking about.

My biggest concern or thought has been that the scene kids and douches that buy merchandise at Hottopic wont connect with the film or like it at all because they only went to see it because hottopic told them to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3VSw1XBOo

Originally posted by Darth Martin
How?

I got into a press screening for it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I like looking at the RT reviews side by side: Too slavish, too much different.

Snyder never stood a chance.

I never new RT was the be all and end all on movie reviews.

Anyone else seen it yet?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's been my concern about the movie since day one. How do you make a movie based on a comic whose sole purpose was the deconstruction the superhero genre, seem meaningful and interesting to the general public who has no understanding of the construction of the superhero to begin with.

The point of watchmen isn't to "change what we know about superheroes."

Sometimes I wonder if people actually read it.

Yeah... good point.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That's been my concern about the movie since day one. How do you make a movie based on a comic whose sole purpose was the deconstruction the superhero genre, seem meaningful and interesting to the general public who has no understanding of the construction of the superhero to begin with.

because you still have to take it as it is. if it isn't good for anyother reason i doubt as many people would like it

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I like looking at the RT reviews side by side: Too slavish, too much different.

Snyder never stood a chance.

Actually, I think most reviews happen to criticize Watchmen's extreme faithfulness to the graphic novel. In short, it would appear Snyder was more concerned with capturing the exact same camera angles as portrayed within the novel than the comic's intellectual themes. It's a clone, not an interpretation, seems to be the consensus.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Actually, I think most reviews happen to criticize Watchmen's extreme faithfulness to the graphic novel. In short, it would appear Snyder was more concerned with capturing the exact same camera angles as portrayed within the novel than the comic's intellectual themes. It's a clone, not an interpretation, seems to be the consensus.

lol thats what we all orignally wanted. it just shows with something lke watchmen people will complain either way

Originally posted by Quincy
The point of watchmen isn't to "change what we know about superheroes."

Sometimes I wonder if people actually read it.

Correct, the point was to change the way people looked at superheroes and the idea of them. Past tense and all that.