Originally posted by Placidity
How is she weak?The Surfer is not cannon fodder.
The problem here is that you only see power in terms of strength. Like any other abilities don't matter. Now I would find it easier to accept if your opinion was while those two could be a threat to Superman, his overwhelming feats would be too much for them.
But the idea I'm getting from you is that anyone without superhuman strength is "weak" and Superman wins because he is strong.
If my argument was solely based around strength i wouldn't have mentioned feats that aren't based around strength.
Flying to the bottom of the ocean and into the earth's mantle is about durability. Withstanding water pressures of hundreds of pounds per square inch. Then there's the incredible temperatures of the mantle and lava that had to be overcome.
The surfer, from the movie, is canon fodder. He didn't really show anything capable of defeating Routh Superman.
His strength is obviously important though and from the movies, it's far more than either hulk or the thing. Magneto is irrelevant as all he could do is throw metal objects at superman. Given that a bullet direct to the eye didn't even make Superman blink then i'd say his durability to anything metallic that Magneto could throw at him isn't in question.
Ghost rider is irrelevant because of Supes inherent good. Although i like the idea that they are diametrically opposed...Supes' strength from the sun and GR's being taken by the sun.
Again, DP's powers are limited in the movie. You hear much about her being hugely powerful but see almost nothing.