Sephiroth vs Cloud

Started by fascistcrusader6 pages

BT, stop being so ignorant for once in your life. No official source anywhere says anything about it being because of the lifestream. To the contrary, the creators say not only nothing is above him, but also that nothing is stronger than him. That goes for Cloud too, silly, Sephiroth >>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud. Period.

Excuse me lol? the entire game is an officail source and the only feat hes shown in any of them that points to him being above anything is the negative lifestream, my source (the games)>>>your blind assumptions and love for Sephiroth. He has shown zero speed, durability, power etc etc etc feats on par with many of the other FF characters, the fools only winning grace that makes the developers quote valid is his Negative lifestream.

Cloud unfortunatley for Sephiroth can do a move (omnislash) too fast for him, furthermore a move that he can do in short range before Sephiroth can call his neg lifestream in the AC fight.

No, my source is straight from the people who made both. Yours is a blind hatred for Sephiroth because more people like him than Kain. Sephiroth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cloud in strength, speedand power. This is canon, you're wrong. Sorry. 🙁

Okie show me Sephiroths strength being above Cloud, show me him being faster than Omnislash? more powerful than Omnislash?

And ime talking about all the characters, its obvious to any non fanboy that Sephiroth is stuffed when Cloud does Omnislash, he cant even move, as shown by AC so dont start crying about it. Without Negative lifestream, Sephiroth is nothing in the face of Omega Weiss, Chaos, most of the weapons etc etc

No, silly, go read the Reunion Files. Sephiroth has never shown us what he can do. The reason antifanboys like yourself think Sephiroth isn't as powerful as he truly is is because he was not trying in Advent Children. The Book specifically says he never exerted himself, and that Cloud was giving it his all. Even then, AC clearly shows us that Cloud was struggling, meaning Sephiroth not trying is still > Cloud's best.

The creators of FF VII and AC are right, you aren't.

I dont have to go find your sources, sorry. hes not shown us what he can do so we assume he can wipe anyone and everything out lol...yeh right....fanboys like you will never learn....

No Omnislash is Clouds best, and Sephiroth could do nothing to it, according to the film, according to feats etc etc

Ofc I am, ime simply not brown nosing sephiroth and making 100 assumptions on how hes got all these uber powers hes just not shown us yet when the Negative lifestream works with what the creators have said, I dont have to sit here and grasp at straws in a hope that perhaps Sephiroth is indeed much faster and more powerful than everything in FF just by using is queer @ss look, slow powers and wimpy sword.

The creators said he was >>>>>>> Cloud. They said he wasn;t trying and that Cloud was giving it his best. We clearly see that Cloud struggles the whole fight and Sephiroth is on top.

This debate was over before it started because facts > your hate of Sephiroth. Sorry, but until you can realize that you're always going to be laughably ignorant of all things FF. 🙁

Yeh when Cloud is not using his full potential, then ofc he does Omnislash which destroys Sephiroth.

Thats just a childish banter, stop stamping your feat and actually debate otherwise your trolling, do it again and ill report you.

No, silly, the Reunion Files state very clearly that Cloud is giving it his all during the whole fight.

Learn to debate instead of just throwing a tantrum and yelling "I'm right the creators are wrong, wahhhh!!!!"

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Then why does he always lose? :[

Because of CIS.

Without it Sephiroth ROFLCOPTER STOMPS.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No, silly, the Reunion Files state very clearly that Cloud is giving it his all during the whole fight.

Learn to debate instead of just throwing a tantrum and yelling "I'm right the creators are wrong, wahhhh!!!!"

until he goes into Omnislash, then hes giving it all +1

Reported

Fasc, people posting things you don't like is not trolling or spamming. Keep up with reporting nonsense and you'll be the one getting the warning. Also, considering the way you post here, you have no room whatsoever to be telling others to learn how to debate.

Sorry, but I'm afraid making a post just to childishly tell someone you tattled is spam, as it is an unnecessary post not related to the debate. 🙁

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Sorry, but I'm afraid making a post just to childishly tell someone you tattled is spam, as it is an unnecessary post not related to the debate. 🙁

Sorry, but I'm afraid that your (incorrect) opinion is not relevant.

I see you're still not doing a very good job modding, ignoring the real rules iin favor of your own so you can feel big on the interwebs. 🙁

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
I see you're still not doing a very good job modding, ignoring the real rules iin favor of your own so you can feel big on the interwebs. 🙁

I am ignoring no rules. You cannot just change them to say whatever you want. Even if he had only posted "reported" (which he did not, there was more to the post than that and it was not off-topic) it would not be something worth reporting as spam.

So if that's not spam then what is? Is it ok for him to talk about how he loves choclate ice cream in a Ganon vs KOS-MOS thread and mention nothing of the actual debate?

No, because that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread at hand. Posting something that's relevant to the actual thread and also pointing out that they made a report is fine. Even just stating that they reported someone, if what was being reported was disruptive to the thread, is fine. It is technically off-topic but it's not disruptive enough to be worth reporting.

Now, go back to the topic at hand.

Not disruptive enough says you....

I wish you were more objective.

ok BT, the fact is that sephiroth IS more powerful than cloud, cloud just happens to have a really powerful plot device. if seph REALLY REALLY wanted cloud dead instead of playing around then cloud would die almost instantly but seph is so f@#king arrogant that he thinks he cant die by anything from cloud, it is true that cloud is capable of killing sephiroth but he has to be able to hit him and apart from seph letting him hit him omnislash is the only way he can do it. so if it was stated that sephiroth was giving 100% then easy win for him but that wasnt ever stated so i give the win to cloud because sephiroth wont ever use his entire strength